Cannot Build Large Commander Ships

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Since upgrading to 2.3 and 2.31, I noticed that, playing as a Human-type custom civ, the two largest Commander ships (battleships) cannot be enabled by dropping a Leader on to their card.

These are Destruction's Source and Annihilation.

Originally there was a message on the card that a certain tech was required - Sovereign Immunity.

I do have the required tech, but the ship card is still greyed out. The other 5 ships cards are available to select.

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Reply #1 from GalCiv4 Forums Top

You need to research the next tech that gives ship mass. you need 3 more mass points for that one.

The red 66/69 may be different for the other one.

Reply #2 from GalCiv4 Forums Top

Thanks for that info. Under older versions, as soon as I researched Sovereign Tech, I was able to grab these with a Leader.

I am not trying to build these in my shipyard. For that, I would need the large hull techs.

This may have been a change from V 2.2 onwards.

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Reply #3 from GalCiv4 Forums Top

Quoting dg551, reply 2

Thanks for that info. Under older versions, as soon as I researched Sovereign Tech, I was able to grab these with a Leader.

I am not trying to build these in my shipyard.

They have moved the tech around added stuff to this one taken stuff away from that one.

Might be that they increased the Mass of a part on these ships or decreased the Mass giving by a tech you have researched.

Either way if something in a ship description is red you cannot build it till you achieve that requirement. 

 

Reply #4 from GalCiv4 Forums Top

The red numbers mean that the ship is over the mass limit. Most of the Commander ships show this - it has never been a problem. I never understood this.

I could always grab a Commander ship if I had the correct tech.

Reply #5 from GalCiv4 Forums Top

Here is an older saved game screen shot.

At this time in the game, I do not have the tech needed to build a Cruiser in my shipyard, but I can get this ship by dropping a Leader on the ship card.

I note that, like all Commander ships, the mass is shown in red, as it is over-built.

Despite the over-mass, it does not seem to make a difference to either getting this Commander ship, or how it functions, when on the map.

 

Reply #6 from GalCiv4 Forums Top

Over mass has never hindered commander ship availability before…so if it is now it’s an undocumented change or a bug