Diplomatic relations question

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I do not quite understand how diplomatic relations work. Here is an example from my current game with Drath.

On this screenshot you can see that my current relations with Drath is 0 and if i want to create an alliance with them i need it to be at 9. By the way it is the only way i found to check current relations. I think it should be one of the first things you see on diplomatic screen.

 

 

And on this screenshot we see the summary of our relations which equals -3 (5 positive points and 8 negative). 

 

So, which one is true, 0 or -3 ? Or is it that relations can't be less than zero ? But i checked other civs, and numbers don't add up with them too. For example, Manti relations should be 6, but tooltip says it's 5. So, what's the meaning of this ?

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Reply #1 from GalCiv4 Forums Top

I just learned how this works recently myself.

First you want to sum the total of all your diplo modifiers. In your case its at -3.

What this means is...your "end state" for diplomacy is -3. But that doesn't happen immediately, your relationship will continue to decay steadily until it gets to -3, at which point it will stop moving. So your heading to -3, but it takes some time to get there. Likewise for positive scores, your relationship will rise but it takes time.

 

For an alliance, since you need a 9 relationship, your goal is to get to a +9 overall bonus (positive mods + negative mods = 9). At that point its just a waiting game letting your relationship rise high enough to then get an alliance.

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Reply #2 from GalCiv4 Forums Top

Oh, now i see, it takes time =) Thank you for shedding light on this one !

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Reply #3 from GalCiv4 Forums Top

In game i find some technology that gives Diplomacy Bonus +1. What exactly this means? And where i can see current Diplomatic Bonus?

 

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Reply #4 from GalCiv4 Forums Top

Quoting m007kuzya, reply 3

In game i find some technology that gives Diplomacy Bonus +1. What exactly this means? And where i can see current Diplomatic Bonus?

 


Well, apparently, +1 diplomatic bonus improves you relations with all civs. You can see it when hovering cursor over that civ or in a diplomacy screen. Look at my 2nd screenshot here, you can see "your skill in diplomacy" +1 there. That's it. 
I think overall current diplomatic relations value (sum of all bonuses and penalties) should be displayed as well, without the need to do a math every time.

Reply #5 from GalCiv4 Forums Top

Quoting Jaia, reply 4

you can see "your skill in diplomacy" +1 there. That's it. 

 

But it is no any change in this screen. Before i study this tech it wos "+" and after i study this tech it is still one "+", and after i discouver some more tech - it is still only one "+" in this screen... thats why i ask what it is and how it works :/

Reply #6 from GalCiv4 Forums Top

Perhaps, another bug then...

Reply #7 from GalCiv4 Forums Top

Quoting m007kuzya, reply 5


Quoting Jaia,
reply 4

you can see "your skill in diplomacy" +1 there. That's it. 



 

But it is no any change in this screen. Before i study this tech it wos "+" and after i study this tech it is still one "+", and after i discouver some more tech - it is still only one "+" in this screen... thats why i ask what it is and how it works :/

Are you looking at your relationship with each individual race or your over all diplo?

I believe to see the real numbers you need to go race by race.

Reply #8 from GalCiv4 Forums Top

For example look at this screenshot. It is only + (1) skill in diplomacy, but i have at least 3 or 4 technology that give + 1 diplomatic bonus... And it is no any impact form tham i can find

 

 

Reply #9 from GalCiv4 Forums Top

K. 

That makes it clearer.

So yes a bug.