Start11 v1.50.1 (was 1.47.3) Beta Feedback Thread

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With the Start11 v1.50.1 (was 1.47.3) beta release today, we are creating this thread so that users can report any observed issues.  

Obtaining the beta:

Object Desktop members can get the beta from within Object Desktop Manager with 'show beta downloads' enabled:

Individual purchases (as well as Object Desktop Members) can also be obtained from your account page:

https://store.stardock.com/myaccount/products

Reporting an issue:

Please include the following for anything found:

  • Exact Windows version \ build (winver.exe)

  • Detailed steps to recreate the issue seen

  • Screenshots and videos are very helpful.  Videos can be uploaded to a cloud drive service (GoogleDrive, DropBox, OneDrive, YouTube), with a shared link included in your post.  Images can be copied and pasted directly into a post.

  • If there are specific apps that the app does not work (well) with, please note what apps and their exact versions.  If any app is not common, a link to a trial version would be appreciated.

Thank you for your interest and any time you put into making Start11 a better product.

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Reply #1 from Stardock Forums Top

Start11 v1.50 Changelog (Released 1/29/2024)

1/29/2024

Version Updated

  • UI: 1.50

  • Start11Config.exe 1.5.0.1

  • Released on Stardock and Steam: 1/29/2024

1/24/2024

  • This resolves an issue with uncombined taskbar buttons on Win11 having an incorrect background on icons on the taskbar

01/23/2024

  • Small tweaks to search handling

  • Resolved resource leak on open / close right click menus

  • Resolved possible cause of start menu icons becoming blank after icon refresh

  • Tweaks to animation system to remove excess paints

  • Enhanced wheel scrolling performance and smoothness

  • Tweaks to jumplist icon image loading

  • Enhanced custom tile loading to handle alpha channels better

  • Resolved issue with not loading up the correct thumbnail for Apple iTunes apps

  • Tweaks to OS pin syncing based on v2 changes

  • Enhanced touch scrolling of lists

  • Tweak to taskbar right click logic to handle failure case so a menu shows

  • Taskbar repaint logic tweaked to match v2 changes

  • Resolved memory leak on 23H2

  • Resolved issue with sniping tool taskbar buttons going missing after sniping sometimes until focus is given to the window again

  • Taskbar code on Win11 now handles Copilot button correctly when only this button is shown on the taskbar

  • Fix icons being blank for edge apps in some cases

  • Fix for double touch input on taskbar buttons sometimes

  • Misc other bug fixes

08/03/2023

  • UI still reads 1.47. Start11Config.exe \ properties \ details \ File version: 1.4.7.3

  • Fix for the high CPU usage issue

  • Another fix for a possible high CPU usage if old Start10 style search is used

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Reply #2 from Stardock Forums Top

Known issues

While we appreciate all feedback, please remember that we offer no official support for beta \ preview \ developer channel versions of Windows. If you report issues while in any of those early release channels, you should not expect them to be addressed unless it still exists in a retail version of Windows.

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Reply #3 from Stardock Forums Top

***Reserved***

Reply #4 from Stardock Forums Top

In Windows Dev Preview (22H2 Build 23545.1000), the Copilot button on the taskbar keeps disappearing (and sometimes reappears).

Reply #5 from Stardock Forums Top

When I was running 22631.2283 (KB5030219), everything was working fine. But after upgrading to 22631.2361 (KB5030310), the file explorer won't open anymore. Also shortcuts involving the explorer.exe, like ncpa.cpl, won't open anymore while shell shortcurts as sysdm.cpl do still work. When opening notepad.exe, i can do File -> Open and browse my drives, this is also still working.

But when opening explorer.exe directly, i get the following entry in the windows event viewer:

- System
   
- Provider
      [ Name] Application Error
      [ Guid] {a0e9b465-b939-57d7-b27d-95d8e925ff57}
   
  EventID 1000
   
  Version 0
   
  Level 2
   
  Task 100
   
  Opcode 0
   
  Keywords 0x8000000000000000
   
- TimeCreated
      [ SystemTime] 2023-09-26T20:32:09.0115968Z
   
  EventRecordID 51360
   
  Correlation
   
- Execution
      [ ProcessID] 18344
      [ ThreadID] 6116
   
  Channel Application
   
  Computer XYZ
   
- Security
      [ UserID] XYZ
- EventData
    AppName explorer.exe
    AppVersion 10.0.22621.2361
    AppTimeStamp 480de713
    ModuleName explorerframe.dll
    ModuleVersion 10.0.22621.2361
    ModuleTimeStamp 7b666dd1
    ExceptionCode c000041d
    FaultingOffset 000000000000877b
    ProcessId 0x1bd4
    ProcessCreationTime 0x1d9f0b88492fb11
    AppPath C:\WINDOWS\explorer.exe
    ModulePath C:\WINDOWS\system32\explorerframe.dll
    IntegratorReportId 8cad0c83-a5bd-478a-9a4d-8f69d6b2d996
    PackageFullName  
    PackageRelativeAppId  

 

Reply #6 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting sonicandsmoke, reply 5

When I was running 22631.2283 (KB5030219), everything was working fine. But after upgrading to 22631.2361 (KB5030310), the file explorer won't open anymore. Also shortcuts involving the explorer.exe, like ncpa.cpl, won't open anymore while shell shortcurts as sysdm.cpl do still work. When opening notepad.exe, i can do File -> Open and browse my drives, this is also still working.

But when opening explorer.exe directly, i get the following entry in the windows event viewer:

Have you possibly installed some sort of OS hack to regain older versions of Explorer or alter how the taskbar or explorer works?

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Reply #7 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Neil, reply 6


Quoting sonicandsmoke,
reply 5

When I was running 22631.2283 (KB5030219), everything was working fine. But after upgrading to 22631.2361 (KB5030310), the file explorer won't open anymore. Also shortcuts involving the explorer.exe, like ncpa.cpl, won't open anymore while shell shortcurts as sysdm.cpl do still work. When opening notepad.exe, i can do File -> Open and browse my drives, this is also still working.

But when opening explorer.exe directly, i get the following entry in the windows event viewer:



Have you possibly installed some sort of OS hack to regain older versions of Explorer or alter how the taskbar or explorer works?

I had disabled the Tabs in the Explorer via vivetool a while ago, but i have re-enabled them before upgrading to KB5030310. Just in case, i also ran sfc /scannow and dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth, but it didn't help.

For today, i'm using Explorer++ as a workaround. Tomorrow, i'll be doing an Inplace Upgrade of Win11 to try to get rid of this error.

I now understand that this isn't a Start11-related issue per se, but i'm not getting this problem on my other Win11 machines without Start11. It just happens on my main box with Start11, that's why i've posted it here.

/edit: Just before doing the Inplace Upgrade, i tried re-enabling the Tabs via vivetool again, and after a reboot, File Explorer is working again without any issues. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction. :)

 

Reply #8 from Stardock Forums Top

This behavior exists in Start 1.47. I confirmed that the issue exists in the 1.47.3 beta as well

Given the following start menu - with focus on any of the folders (the 'A' folder in the example below)

If I press the right-arrow key the folder is opened (see below)

Then, If I press the left-arrow key the folder closes -and- focus jumps to 'Control Panel' as follows

Please modify this logic so the 'A' folder closes and focus remains on the selected folder. I would like 'Control Panel' to be selected only if I press left-arrow from a folder that is already 'closed'

Thanks

Reply #9 from Stardock Forums Top

Is there a known issue with powerToys and fancyZones?

 

If I used win11 with the taskbar above and would like to use 2 windows in full screen, there is an issue.

The windows, e.g. explorer, cover the taskbar.

If is restart the explorer.exe it works as it should.

 

Any ideas?

 

 

Reply #10 from Stardock Forums Top

All,

Start11 2.0 has been released.

Please see the press release for details
https://forums.stardock.com/523413/stardock-announces-start11-v2

Also please see the upgrade FAQ:
https://forums.stardock.com/523474/start11-v2-upgrade-faq

As always, thank you for the support and feedback.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Reply #11 from Stardock Forums Top

All, 

Start11 v1 (1.50) was put into beta today.  

For details, please see:

https://forums.stardock.com/521885/get;3899005

As always, thank you for the time, feedback, and support.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Reply #12 from Stardock Forums Top

All, 

Start11 v1.50.1 was put into beta today.  

For details, please see:

https://forums.stardock.com/521885/get;3899005

As always, thank you for the time, feedback, and support.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Reply #13 from Stardock Forums Top

All, 

Start11 v1.50.1 was released today.

For details, please see:

https://forums.stardock.com/525681/get;3919153

As always, thank you for the time, feedback, and support.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager