Start11 1.43 Beta Feedback Thread

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With the Star11 1.43 beta release today, we are creating this thread so that users can report any observed issues.  

Obtaining the beta:

Object Desktop members can get the beta from within Object Desktop Manager with 'show beta downloads' enabled:

Individual purchases (as well as Object Desktop Members) can also be obtained from your account page:

https://store.stardock.com/myaccount/products

Reporting an issue:

Please include the following for anything found:

  • Exact Windows version \ build (winver.exe)

  • Detailed steps to recreate the issue seen

  • Screenshots and videos are very helpful.  Videos can be uploaded to a cloud drive service (GoogleDrive, DropBox, OneDrive, YouTube), with a shared link included in your post.  Images can be copied and pasted directly into a post.

  • If there are specific apps that the app does not work (well) with, please note what apps and their exact versions.  If any app is not common, a link to a trial version would be appreciated.

Thank you for your interest and any time you put into making Start11 a better product.

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Reply #1 from Stardock Forums Top

Start11 1.43 Changelog (Released 04/03/2023)

04/04/2023

Pushed live on Steam

04/03/2023

Pushed live for Stardock.com purchases.

03/24/2023

  • UI versioned updated to 1.43 (file version 1.4.3.0)

  • Detects canary channel as insider as well

  • Brings the winkey fix from old dev channel builds over to beta channel fixes and above

03/23/2023

  • Updated localization for new strings

03/22/2023

  • File version 1.4.2.1. UI version 1.42

  • Better support for larger start buttons on KB5022913

  • Improved compatibility with touch mode taskbar on KB5022913

  • Resolved an issue that could cause the taskbar contents to shift down after a DPI change sometimes

  • Added in new UI strings to warn users about changing the taskbar size needing enhanced taskbar enabled and likewise for autohide

  • Added new size on KB5022913 called Small with wide icon spacing which is small height but pads out the buttons wider as it did on previous OSes

03/16/2023

  • Start11 UI ‘About’ will read 1.42

  • Fix for WinX menu appearing far left when right-clicking centered Start11 menu (Windows 11 only currently)

  • Further tweaks for > 2 monitor setups

  • Adjusted small taskbar buttons to be slightly wider on 22H2 KB5022913

  • Fixed some tablet PC taskbar issues

  • Now supports wider start buttons but only when enhanced taskbar is enabled AND for primary monitor only if you have > 2 monitors

  • Fixed some search positioning issues

3/10/2023

  • Further tweaks to stop a repaint issue with icons showing under the tray icons in a very rare situation on Win11 KB5022913

03/08/2023

  • Fixes the windows menu not working right when using center mode in S11 and using search box mode on the taskbar and using enhance taskbar in S11 along with using the Windows menu vs ours.

  • Another tweak to finally sort out that taskbar, without blur, resetting to 100% solid mode ‘after running games’ issue

Reply #2 from Stardock Forums Top

Known issues

While we appreciate all feedback, please remember that we offer no official support for beta \ preview \ developer channel versions of Windows. If you report issues while in any of those early release channels, you should not expect them to be addressed unless it still exists in a retail version of Windows.

  • On Windows 11, if you resize the taskbar height, click the Windows Notification Center (WNC), then resize the taskbar down, clicking WNC will have kept the height it had when it was taller. Restarting Windows Explorer will reset it.
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Reply #3 from Stardock Forums Top

**Reserved***

Reply #4 from Stardock Forums Top

I still see version 1.4.11 in account downloads. How to obtain 1.4.2 beta?

Reply #5 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting claudiu111, reply 4

I still see version 1.4.11 in account downloads. How to obtain 1.4.2 beta?

The visibility of this was a bit early... Try now (Ctrl + F5 on our account page).

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

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Reply #7 from Stardock Forums Top

Edition    Windows 11 Pro
Version    22H2
Installed on    ‎6/‎7/‎2022
OS build    22621.1413
Experience    Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22639.1000.0

Using 1.4.2 Beta, although I saw this behavior with 1.4.1 as well. I run a dual monitor setup, both native resolution of 2560x1440. When I launch a game using DSR which runs the game at 3620x2036 and then renders it natively, my alignment for certain parts of my toolbar are off after closing the game.

Namely the search bar and pinned apps, and the Icons tab and date and time. Also to note this only happens on my primary display, as my secondary displays bar is fine. The only fix I have found is to restart the PC. Manually changing the resolution back and forth doesn't reset it.

Reply #8 from Stardock Forums Top

Windows 10 22H2 19045.2728, Start 11 1.42, my Win+X menu is still on the wrong side of the screen, not sure why, I tried switching from center to left aligned, back to center, but the issue still persist

Reply #9 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Dalton2192, reply 8



Windows 10 22H2 19045.2728, Start 11 1.42, my Win+X menu is still on the wrong side of the screen, not sure why, I tried switching from center to left aligned, back to center, but the issue still persist

That's not changed and has always been like that on Windows 10.

Reply #10 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Azagathoth, reply 7

Edition    Windows 11 Pro
Version    22H2
Installed on    ‎6/‎7/‎2022
OS build    22621.1413
Experience    Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22639.1000.0

Using 1.4.2 Beta, although I saw this behavior with 1.4.1 as well. I run a dual monitor setup, both native resolution of 2560x1440. When I launch a game using DSR which runs the game at 3620x2036 and then renders it natively, my alignment for certain parts of my toolbar are off after closing the game.



Namely the search bar and pinned apps, and the Icons tab and date and time. Also to note this only happens on my primary display, as my secondary displays bar is fine. The only fix I have found is to restart the PC. Manually changing the resolution back and forth doesn't reset it.

Are you using a touch screen device?

Reply #11 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Neil, reply 10


Quoting Azagathoth,
reply 7

Edition    Windows 11 Pro
Version    22H2
Installed on    ‎6/‎7/‎2022
OS build    22621.1413
Experience    Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22639.1000.0

Using 1.4.2 Beta, although I saw this behavior with 1.4.1 as well. I run a dual monitor setup, both native resolution of 2560x1440. When I launch a game using DSR which runs the game at 3620x2036 and then renders it natively, my alignment for certain parts of my toolbar are off after closing the game.



Namely the search bar and pinned apps, and the Icons tab and date and time. Also to note this only happens on my primary display, as my secondary displays bar is fine. The only fix I have found is to restart the PC. Manually changing the resolution back and forth doesn't reset it.



Are you using a touch screen device?

 

No. This is a desktop PC, with two non touch monitors. I was doing some experimenting as well. Hitting the "restart explorer" button in the taskbar setting menu for start11 fixed it. Faster work around then rebooting.

Reply #12 from Stardock Forums Top

winver: 22621.1413

start11 version: 1.4.2

if I have matlab R2021a opened, switch to multi monitor from single monitor or vice versa, the matlab icon in the taskbar is gone. This issue also appeared in 1.4.11 version. if i alt tab to the matlab, the icon reappear and never missing again how many time i switch display setting. 

Reply #15 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Stanthewizzard, reply 14

Oups no

When clicking search or typing in search bar issue with scaling

Screenshot?

Reply #16 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Neil, reply 9


Quoting Dalton2192,
reply 8



Windows 10 22H2 19045.2728, Start 11 1.42, my Win+X menu is still on the wrong side of the screen, not sure why, I tried switching from center to left aligned, back to center, but the issue still persist



That's not changed and has always been like that on Windows 10.

I'm running Windows 10 19045.2787 with Start11 1.39 stable, and my Win+X menu is in the center right above the start button.

Reply #17 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Azagathoth, reply 7

Edition    Windows 11 Pro
Version    22H2
Installed on    ‎6/‎7/‎2022
OS build    22621.1413
Experience    Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22639.1000.0

Using 1.4.2 Beta, although I saw this behavior with 1.4.1 as well. I run a dual monitor setup, both native resolution of 2560x1440. When I launch a game using DSR which runs the game at 3620x2036 and then renders it natively, my alignment for certain parts of my toolbar are off after closing the game.



Namely the search bar and pinned apps, and the Icons tab and date and time. Also to note this only happens on my primary display, as my secondary displays bar is fine. The only fix I have found is to restart the PC. Manually changing the resolution back and forth doesn't reset it.

This is also happening to me but on 1.41. Reported separately here: Version 1.41: Taskbar Unstable, Breaks When External Monitors are Plugged In » Forum Post by Kelderic (stardock.com)

Reply #18 from Stardock Forums Top

Version 1.42 a corrigé probléme révélé apres install dernières mises a jour windows 11 22h2 moment. Merci à vous :congrat:  

Version 1.42 has fixed problem revealed after installing latest updates windows 11 22h2 moment. Thank you 

Reply #19 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting gabelou, reply 18

Version 1.42 a corrigé probléme révélé apres install dernières mises a jour windows 11 22h2 moment. Merci à vous :congrat:  

Version 1.42 has fixed problem revealed after installing latest updates windows 11 22h2 moment. Thank you 

You are most welcome. Thanks for the support and update.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Reply #22 from Stardock Forums Top

Hello,

Currently on the beta version it seems that icons in the taskbar are too small, and also the spacing between these icons seems off (using small size taskbar). You can see how off the size is by looking at the window icon.

Reply #23 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Gael1396, reply 25

Hello,

Currently on the beta version it seems that icons in the taskbar are too small, and also the spacing between these icons seems off (using small size taskbar). You can see how off the size is by looking at the window icon.


Small size taskbar has small taskbar icons.  The size is normal and is actually a tiny bit bigger than on previous versions of start 11.

What has changed is your OS no longer has any support for a small taskbar hence the start button being bigger than before making the icons seem smaller relatively.

The spacing between them on Windows before was incorrectly wider but the Start11 enhanced taskbar has always spaced them like Windows 10 did in small mode.

That said there may be merit in adding a small wider spacing mode on the newest OS to accommodate both those who used the enhanced taskbar in Start11 and those who did not but have to now.

We will look into doing that.

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Reply #24 from Stardock Forums Top

@Neil Banfield

If the Stardock team could reduce the start menu button to a small taskbar size and use larger icon spacing, that would be great!

Thanks for the quick support and quick replies :congrat:   



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Reply #25 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting piotrmur_, reply 27

@Neil Banfield



If the Stardock team could reduce the start menu button to a small taskbar size and use larger icon spacing, that would be great!

Thanks for the quick support and quick replies :congrat:   




On the first one you could use a custom start button.