Crusade bleedover into Base Game?

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Hi, I played a lot of Gal Civ 3 a few years ago, and quit shortly after Crusade was released, and only recently have come back to the game, to find there's a lot of changes and new DLC.

I didn't buy Crusade when it came out because of reviews saying that it added resource costs to things like starbase modules, which I wasn't a fan of.

But now, playing the updated-many-times-since-then base game (without any DLC), I find that starbase modules cost resources in the base game now too, even without Crusade.

Just curious if there are any other things from the Crusade DLC that have bled over into the base game.

Side note: why doesn't any tech tree have Planetary Defense Domes anymore? Or is that something that's now exclusive to Crusade or some other DLC?

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Reply #1 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

What is Culture? Might be a mod, that's up to the mod creator.

 

Or do you mean the Crusade expansion? The latest base version now is Retribution, I imagine it will fix any issues you have with Crusade (while creating a bunch of new issues).

 

As of Retribution, starbase modules and many buildings still do cost strategic resources, but those resources are also quite plentiful. Planetary Defense Domes are somewhere late in the tech tree for most races on that version. That's another thing, races all have the same basic tech tree now, with each race just differing a little bit, with some extra or locked out techs and buildings for variety.

Reply #2 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

Quoting pandreor, reply 1

What is Culture? Might be a mod, that's up to the mod creator.

 

Or do you mean the Crusade expansion? The latest base version now is Retribution, I imagine it will fix any issues you have with Crusade (while creating a bunch of new issues).

 

As of Retribution, starbase modules and many buildings still do cost strategic resources, but those resources are also quite plentiful. Planetary Defense Domes are somewhere late in the tech tree for most races on that version. That's another thing, races all have the same basic tech tree now, with each race just differing a little bit, with some extra or locked out techs and buildings for variety.

Whoops, I did mean Crusade, my bad. Edited my initial post to fix, lol.

Thanks for the reply. But I do not have Crusade, nor any other DLC.

I have the base game without any DLC.

Yes, the base game has been updated and iterated, but that's been in parallel with the DLC's releases.

The "buildings and starbase modules now cost strategic resources" mechanic was introduced with the release of Crusade. Since I didn't have that DLC, they continued not to cost strategic resources for me at the time.

Now, after a few years, I've come back to the game and found that, even though I do not have Crusade or any other expansion, buildings and starbase modules do cost strategic resources now.

In other words, a mechanic that was once exclusive to Crusade was put into the base game at some point in the past few years.

What I am wondering is, did any other DLC-exclusive mechanics find their way into the base game at some point?

About the other thing, I have noticed all the tech trees being pretty similar now, which seems like kind of a shame, honestly. But apparently you need a DLC (Crusade, Retribution, or something else) to have the tech tree versions that give Planetary Defense Dome now, since the tech trees in my non-DLC base game do not have access to it.

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Reply #3 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

I see now. I'm sorry, I wish I could be more help, but I only got into GC3 after Crusade. I don't really know what else they changed in the base game.

 

I don't know where you bought your copy, but the Steam product page for Galactic Civlizations III has a pretty good breakdown of the features per base game and the expansions under "About This Game". I hope it can be of some help to you.

Reply #4 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

Quoting pandreor, reply 3

I see now. I'm sorry, I wish I could be more help, but I only got into GC3 after Crusade. I don't really know what else they changed in the base game.

 

I don't know where you bought your copy, but the Steam product page for Galactic Civlizations III has a pretty good breakdown of the features per base game and the expansions under "About This Game". I hope it can be of some help to you.

Yeah I've read those, but it only tells the broad highlights. When Crusade first launched, I learned about the new strategic resources requirements from reviews rather than the official summary (which didn't, and doesn't, mention that mechanic). Thanks anyway :)

Reply #5 from GalCiv4 Forums Top

Crusade became the base game a while after it was released I believe. So all the features of crusade became the normal base game. I didn't particularly like the changes either at the time, however they have been balanced a lot since and work a lot better now. Including the resources for starbase modules.