Start11 + "Windows 10" style menu + Tile width inconsistency

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I've been playing with custom tile images and I noticed this inconsistency.

  • Start11 1.31 + Windows 10 21H2 (LTSC 2021) + 4K display set to 200% DPI scaling
  • Start11 has shortcut icon size set to "Large" in Start Menu → Configuration (though this inconsistency is present at least with the "Medium" size as well)

The specific issue is that icons in the left column of a "group" are one pixel more narrow than the rest.  Here I have a group of four.  The first one is 247×248 pixels, and the rest are 248×248.  (You can open the image in an editor and measure it.)  I'm reporting here "width × height".

Using custom tiles isn't necessary to observe this.

Happens with different tile sizes too:

This issue is consistent across all of the tile groups that I have checked.  I have not tried it with DPI scaling levels other than 200%.  I did check the "Medium" shortcut icon size and it is similar, with the first tile being 199×200 and the others being 200×200.

Just wondering if there is a specific reason for this?  If not, I'd ask if you could make the tile size consistent?

[Edit]

Did some additional checking and it looks like Start11 is chopping off the left column of pixels for the "shrunk" tiles on the left side of a group.

I made this 248×248 image with just the left column red, and the rest yellow.

If it is not on the left edge, it shows up correctly in Start11.

(zoomed)

But if you move that tile to the left side, the red line is no longer visible.

(zoomed, red pixel column is missing?)

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Reply #1 from Stardock Forums Top

Run your yellow tile test with your display scaling set to 100% and see if the results are the same. If the red line shows in both positions at 100% scaling, then this is a scaling issue with the OS. Try other scaling settings such as 125% and 150%.

Reply #2 from Stardock Forums Top

I am going to check this later, but Start11_64.exe is reporting full "per-monitor" DPI awareness, so scaling is handled by the app and not by the OS.

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Reply #3 from Stardock Forums Top

Tried at at 100%.  The issue does not occur.  "Large" tile size is 124×124 in this case, whether the tile is on the left-most side of a group or not, and Start11 does not chop off any columns of pixels from the tile.

(For this test, I added a green column so that you can see precisely where the second column of pixels is as well.)

150% does not have the bug either.  (186×186 tiles.)

It does occur at 200% (as demonstrated above), and also 250% (310×310).  Here, you can see that the red column is gone but the green is not.  One column of pixels has been shaved off of the tile that is in the left-most position.

I'd speculate that this is a bug with Start11's scaling logic that occurs once the scaling ratio gets high enough.

Reply #4 from Stardock Forums Top

The 1.35 beta is out and one of the changes is 

  • Fixes an off-by-1 clipping issue on custom images for shortcuts when in Win10 style

Not sure if this relates to your problem or not. 

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Reply #5 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting pelaird, reply 4
Not sure if this relates to your problem or not.

Thanks for the heads up.  Seems like it could be.  Stardock is normally quick to fix cleanly reproducible bugs (but normally I get a reply in the forum thread noting that they have a fix queued up...).

I will check it out later today and post back.

 

Reply #6 from Stardock Forums Top

It does appear to be fixed in 1.35.  I am seeing consistent tile sizes in all cases now.  Thanks for listening, Stardock...