Start11 1.28 Beta Issue Report Thread

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With the Start11 1.28 beta release today, we are creating this thread so that users can report any observed issues.  

Obtaining the beta:

Object Desktop members can get the beta from within Object Desktop Manager with 'show beta downloads' enabled:

Individual purchases (as well as Object Desktop Members) can also be obtained from your account page:

https://store.stardock.com/myaccount/products

Reporting an issue:

Please include the following for anything found:

  • Exact Windows version \ build (winver.exe)
  • Detailed steps to recreate the issue seen
  • Screenshots and videos are very helpful.  Videos can be uploaded to a cloud drive services (GoogleDrive, DropBox, OneDrive, YouTube) and link included in your post.  Images can be directly added.
  • If there are specific apps that the app does not work (well) with, please note what apps and their exact versions.  If any app is not common, a link to a trial version would be appreciated.

Thank you for your interest and any time you put into making Start11 a better product.

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Reply #1 from Stardock Forums Top

Start11 1.28 Chagelog

  1. Winkey to open the start menu is restored on Insider builds
  2. Toggling hide caption on an icon no longer jumps back to the first page
  3. Right-clicking to the left of the start button when using the enhanced taskbar in center mode will now show the right-click menu correctly on the primary monitor
  4. Config UI detects insider build with new taskbar and indicates which features do not work with that
  5. Config UI detects Win11 22H2+ and indicates top align taskbars do not work with autohide enabled
  6. Small timing tweak for center taskbar on Win11 with enhanced taskbar turned on for Insider builds
  7. Fix for the right-click start button menu not painting right
  8. Fix for the background of the taskbar having a color when the WB skin didn't define one
  9. Fix for the position of the mini search popup and virtual desktops screen
  10. Fix for the position of the native Win11 start menu all when having center taskbar with the enhanced taskbar enabled.

Prior Beta Changelogs (post 1.25 release):

Start11 1.27 Beta

  • Version 1.26 was updated to fix a pinning issue, version was updated as a result.

Start11 1.26 Beta

  1. NEW (experimental): Users can now center the Start11 button when using the Start11 Enhanced Taskbar. This supports custom start buttons too. 
  2. New - You can now rename shortcuts on the Win10/11 style start menus via the right-click menu
  3. Fixed issue with restart computer when other users are logged in not working correctly after the warning message.
  4. Fixed alignment of the new centered start button option to take into account the extra width of the bar
  5. Fixed issue with taskbar being sluggish when file copies were taking place when enhanced taskbar was enabled.
  6. Added new localization strings for 1.26 for new UI changes
  7. Resolved flicker issue when opening the start menu on Win11 insider builds when animations are disabled
  8. A code change to potentially resolve an issue with universal app icons loading as solid black in edge cases
  9. Change to initialization of taskbar code to possibly help with wrong icons loading from the icon cache for pinned items
  10. Fixed issue with only 1 sysicon causing a scrolling arrow to show sometimes
  11. Changed Start11 to open the menu on the primary monitor when opened via the Winkey rather than the monitor the mouse is on. If anyone wishes to use the old behavior you can do so by defining "OldWinKeyLogic" as a string value here HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Stardock\Start8\Start8.ini\Start8 and giving it a value of "1"
  12. Fixed issue with keyboard not opening groups on the menu correctly when enter is pressed. Pressing space now also toggles them.
  13. Fixed issue with rapid clicking on taskbar button with no other open windows not always minimizing the window consistently.
  14. Resolved problem with some custom scaling factors causing the start menu to not show or show on the wrong screen.
  15. Resolved issue where all programs button overlaps shutdown button when in compact mode Win7/modern style with quick launch hidden and search disabled.
  16. Resolved issue with right-click on date when taskbar is at the top on Windows 11 providing a menu that did not work correctly when clicked.
  17. Internal redesign of some taskbar logic to prevent the possibility of a hang
  18. Now supports MS edge website shortcuts on the Win10/11 style start menus (Requires Windows 11)
  19. Resolved issue with erroneous rapid clicking on the start button resulting in the menu not being visible but then animating out next time you click.
  20. Fixed an issue on Windows 11 native start icon where it would not consistently register clicks, they would appear pent up and flash a bunch in a row.
  21. Resolved flicker issue when opening the start menu on Win11 insider builds when animations are disabled
  22. A code change to potentially resolve an issue with universal app icons loading as solid black in edge cases
  23. Change to init of taskbar code to possibly help with wrong icons loading from the icon cache for pinned items
  24. Updated user submitted Japanese translation (credit to user htakado)
  25. Netflix when fullscreen (and other universal apps) no longer vanishes from the enhanced taskbar
  26. Issues with multi-line system tray icons painting under the clock or leaving too much space etc resolved
  27. Search for Windows settings items enhanced slightly
  28. Search results for apps now show two lines of text vs one as some apps have quite long names which make it less usable
  29. Taskbar shifting down 12 or so pixels (at 100% scaling) hopefully resolved
  30. Taskbar shifting along the screen for some users on occasion hopefully resolved
  31. Fixed issue with not showing Search/Task view / Widgets / Chat sometimes when toggled on from an off state
  32. Fixed issue with Win7 mode where clicking to open the jumplist via keyboard (space key) didn't set the focus correctly to an expanded list
  33. Worked around an issue with universal app icons when running caused by using Actual Window Guard
  34. Worked around an issue with the menu closing incorrectly sometimes when you want to open it when using Actual Window Guard
  35. Resolved issue with an explorer crash in rare circumstances with enhanced taskbar enabled
  36. Search results for settings now wrap the text when required in Start11 search mode
  37. Fixed issue with Brave browser profiles overlay image appearing bottom right (normal for Win10) rather than top right on the icon on Windows 11
  38. Stopped very tall window switcher lists jumping to the top of the screen in error with enhanced taskbar enabled.
  39. Resolved an issue with seconds on the clock in US region causing shifting of icons sometimes depending on the date
Reply #2 from Stardock Forums Top

Known issues

While we appreciate all feedback, please remember that we offer no official support for beta \ preview \ developer channel versions of Windows. If you report issues while in any of those early release channels, you should not expect them to be addressed unless it still exists in a retail version of Windows.

  • Initially hovering over the taskbar search may have the preview thumbnail render offset.  Subsequent hovers will render it in the correct location:
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Reply #3 from Stardock Forums Top

All, 

Start11 1.30 was released today, 10/11/2022:

https://forums.stardock.com/514883/start11-130-release-issue-report-thread

Thanks for all your time and feedback.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Reply #6 from Stardock Forums Top

Updated the 1.28 changelog (7-10) as it was missing some items.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Reply #7 from Stardock Forums Top

Windowblinds 11 still overrides start 11 settings. Blurring the background even though blaring is shut off and start 11 the adjust transparency is grayed out and cannot be changed and it is adding a texture background that cannot be removed. 

Reply #8 from Stardock Forums Top

So left side context menu still fails on secondary monitors but does now work on the primary monitor.

Reply #9 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting JCurie, reply 7

Windowblinds 11 still overrides start 11 settings. Blurring the background even though blaring is shut off and start 11 the adjust transparency is great out and cannot be changed and is adding a texture background that cannot be removed. 

Just so we can be sure about what you are reporting, can you post a screenshot please and also what build number of Windows?

It is normal that WB would override start11 as that's the point of applying a skin.  All those settings will be controlled by the WB skin.

Reply #10 from Stardock Forums Top

That's something really difficult to accept from Microsoft: 8C  

 

Align top is not compatible with autohide taskbars when on Windows 11 22H2 and later.

 

Stardock please fix it!!  :D  


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Reply #11 from Stardock Forums Top

Also noticed that peek previews on secondary monitors always show to the left but work fine on primary monitor.

Reply #12 from Stardock Forums Top

Thanks for the new version.

Notice a small bug. The Weather widget in the taskbar, when the ícones are center aligned, stays in the center and not in the "left" side of the taskbar - like the normal windows 11 behaviour.

Reply #13 from Stardock Forums Top

The latest update to Win 11 installed and the taskbar went back down to the bottom when it started up.

Start 11 says it should be at the top.  Restarted explorer junk rebooted doing both several times and it is still at the bottom while Start 11 says top.

It says it is Win 11 version 22H2 and it was successively installed.

Reply #15 from Stardock Forums Top

To switch the user through Start11, you need to perform 5 steps. Start -> Users -> Switch User -> Select User -> Log in.

Through the standard Start 4 actions Start -> Users -> Select user -> Log in.

Is it possible to do 4 or less actions?

 

Reply #16 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting wessel47, reply 13

The latest update to Win 11 installed and the taskbar went back down to the bottom when it started up.

Start 11 says it should be at the top.  Restarted explorer junk rebooted doing both several times and it is still at the bottom while Start 11 says top.

It says it is Win 11 version 22H2 and it was successively installed.

If you look under the options to reposition the taskbar it states in red text that taskbars can only be at the bottom if you have autohide enabled on 22H2.

Would you have autohide enabled?

Reply #17 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting DJPRMF, reply 12

Thanks for the new version.

Notice a small bug. The Weather widget in the taskbar, when the ícones are center aligned, stays in the center and not in the "left" side of the taskbar - like the normal windows 11 behaviour.

This is not a bug.  It is simply a side effect of how things have to work when using the enhanced taskbar.

Reply #18 from Stardock Forums Top

Just wanted to give positive feedback, I have used Start menus for several years including the latest Start 11 Ver 1.28 with the latest Win 22H2 update, and as always I have not had any issues.  I don't use anything fancy or exotic on my PC, just a regular PC user and have been content with the way the software works.  Hats off to the developers.

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Reply #19 from Stardock Forums Top

Bug: When I drag the win10-style start menu to the lowest height, and I close the start menu, at that time, the start menu will become a little taller, and needs to be dragged to the lowest height again.

Translation Bug: Win10-style start menu->user->lock the PC option, in Chinese Traditional, it should be"鎖定" not "鎖上", although"鎖上" is ok, but "鎖定" is more formal.

Translation Bug: in the configure window, all the switcher (button to on/off function)'s "OFF" Translation in Chinese Traditional is wrong be translated to"離開", it should be"關閉".

Translation Bug: Some string in configure window, "restart Explorer" option be translated to"重新啟動 Explorer", it should be"重新啟動檔案總管".

Enhancement: Make live tiles for win10 style start menu, users can see the current weather or time in the tile, and click on it can bring me to the MS weather app or clock app. Just like real win10 start menu I can saw that information when I pin those app on start menu.

 

Enhancement: right click on the start menu will show a configure menu, if the menu can be semi-transparent, and with acrylic effect or mica effect will be great!

 

I like this software, hope you keep it up, thanks!

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