Comments on the Civilization Builder

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Hello all, I had a couple comments on the civilization builder. 

1) The first thing is (I think) a bug. 

If, as a non-Arcean template, you try to take the Arcean ship line "Legendary Ships" the tool-tip tells you that you will get a culture point for each ship.  But really, this benefit is associated with the race template and not what ships you select?  Otherwise you'd have a non-Arcean template race taking Spores and Legendary Ships for a significant benefit.  I think the tooltip should say something like "if you are an Arcean" maybe?

2) The second point is about balancing.  In that same screenshot you can see some options that I think give too many negative points when you take them.  Militant gives you -2 points for -20 starting control points, which is chump change when it comes to control (it's also half the numbers given if you take it as a benefit instead of malus).  It's way too good, it's not even a single colony ship rush, so I'd at least double the amounts on the negative side, or maybe even set the -2 as starting control = 0, and -1 = 1/2 starting control. 

Similarly getting -2 points for Deceptive, Intimidating, and Persuasive is too powerful because these things have rarely been necessary to my (and presumably most) play styles, except in very specific situations that can be worked around.  As much as it would gimp my own custom civ, I think these should at least be halved, which would mean having .5 / 1.0 point changes, which might be a problem (or doubling the scale).

Hopefully I didn't misunderstand something, but I feel like those changes would be worth looking into.

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Reply #1 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

In your screen shot you show that you are using the Legendary ships. They have the Arcean culture trait bonus I have set up my custom race as Human Legendary ships and I most assuredly do get the culture point when I choose them. I will admit I do not get notified other than in the upper left, but I do get them. 

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Reply #2 from GalCiv4 Forums Top

Okay, I had a Civ that definitely didn't get it, but this was earlier on and it might have been bugged (there were certainly times when I had to reload the game to clear out a mystery problem).  Thanks for letting me know, I should have re-tested that. [EDIT: confirmed it worked correctly, I was wrong]

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Reply #3 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

Quoting lachniet, reply 2

Okay, I had a Civ that definitely didn't get it, but this was earlier on and it might have been bugged (there were certainly times when I had to reload the game to clear out a mystery problem).  Thanks for letting me know, I should have re-tested that.

I was going to mention that little problem this game seems to have with things not working immediately, however I did not know how to word it correctly. 

Reply #4 from GalCiv4 Forums Top

Looking at point 2 I think this is something you'll see a lot of change with as we go. We're mot focused on ensuring civ creationg works well and getting the uploads in place. But, balancing things will be an ongoing process.

Reply #5 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

Quoting SchismNavigator, reply 4

Looking at point 2 I think this is something you'll see a lot of change with as we go. We're mot focused on ensuring civ creationg works well and getting the uploads in place. But, balancing things will be an ongoing process.

If I had a long post that might take a couple of days to get correct can I compose it in word or notepad then copy paste here and/or discord?

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Quoting gypsy2299, reply 5

If I had a long post that might take a couple of days to get correct can I compose it in word or notepad then copy paste here and/or discord?

I use Notepad to compose my long posts to make sure they are the way I want them to be.  If I'm going to be making multiple posts about bugs, typos and other things, I also compose all of them in Notepad first.

I then go into this comment section, right click and turn on Check Spelling.  I haven't found a way to make Check Spelling permanent, so I have to do it for each post/comment.

I then copy the text in Notepad and paste it here.  I review it and correct any spelling errors.  I sometimes need to remove extra blank lines.  If I'm going to make more than one post, I do the next one and continue until finished.

The copy/paste can also be done in Discord.  It checks spelling by default.

Reply #7 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

Old-Spider your my hero, or would be if I believed in them.  Many thanks.