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Start11 1.2 Release Feedback Thread

Start11 1.2 Release Feedback Thread

With the Start 1.2 release, we are creating this thread so that users can report any observed issues.  

Obtaining Start11 1.2

Object Desktop members can get the release from within Object Desktop Manager 

Individual purchases (as well as Object Desktop Members) can also be obtained from your account page: https://store.stardock.com/myaccount/products

For guest check-out purchase (no account), from this link: http://www.stardock.com/support/productkeyretrieval

Reporting an issue

Please include the following for anything found:

  • Exact Windows version \ build (winver.exe)
  • Detailed steps to recreate the issue seen
  • Screenshots and videos are very helpful.  Videos can be uploaded to a cloud drive services (GoogleDrive, DropBox, OneDrive, YouTube) and links included in your post.  Images can be directly added.
  • If there are specific apps that the app does not work (well) with, please note what apps and their exact versions.  If any app is not common, a link to a trial version would be appreciated.

Thank you for your interest and any time you put into making Start11 a better product.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager

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Reply #51 Top

With the new Enhanced Taskbar, I lose all my pinned apps and the ability to pin new ones.  If I turn Enhanced Taskbar off, they come back.

Reply #52 Top

Quoting MedievalGuy, reply 51

With the new Enhanced Taskbar, I lose all my pinned apps and the ability to pin new ones.  If I turn Enhanced Taskbar off, they come back.

You have nothing on your taskbar at all or are running apps still loading up ok?

What version of Windows are you using?

Reply #53 Top

Quoting Neil, reply 52


Quoting MedievalGuy,

With the new Enhanced Taskbar, I lose all my pinned apps and the ability to pin new ones.  If I turn Enhanced Taskbar off, they come back.



You have nothing on your taskbar at all or are running apps still loading up ok?

What version of Windows are you using?

The Start Button and the System Tray are there, but nothing else (including running apps).

 

Windows 11 21H2.

 

Thanks!

Reply #54 Top

Quoting MedievalGuy, reply 53


Quoting Neil Banfield,






Quoting MedievalGuy,



With the new Enhanced Taskbar, I lose all my pinned apps and the ability to pin new ones.  If I turn Enhanced Taskbar off, they come back.



You have nothing on your taskbar at all or are running apps still loading up ok?

What version of Windows are you using?



The Start Button and the System Tray are there, but nothing else (including running apps).

 

Windows 11 21H2.

 

Thanks!

If you drag the taskbar to two rows does it change anything?  Also what if you enable say the search button?

Reply #55 Top

Quoting Neil, reply 54
If you drag the taskbar to two rows does it change anything?

No.

Quoting Neil, reply 54
Also what if you enable say the search button?

The search button appears, but nothing else.

Reply #57 Top

Hi I have the latest version installed, I wanted to know this thing.

There is no possibility to block the dragging of icons in the start? because sometimes I don't want to move an icon and then find it somewhere else. I would like to understand once I have set all the icons in the right position is it possible to lock them?

 

I also wanted to ask a second thing, in the next update is it possible to insert the central start with the option of open programs not combined? because now when you set the start bar without combination you can't put the start in the middle and I'm very sorry. Please make this update.

Reply #58 Top

I love the enhanced taskbar. One issue I noticed is "git gui" (the command you run to open the application)'s taskbar icon has what appears to be a a translucent mask color. On top is the Start11 taskbar, under is the normal Window's taskbar.

 

I believe this might be the file? https://github.com/git/git/blob/master/git-gui/lib/git-gui.ico

Reply #59 Top

I noticed an issue that wasn't present in the earlier beta releases when I plug my Surface Pro 7 into my Surface Dock which is connected to 2 1080p monitors. This is definitely related to the DPI change as the same thing happens to me on my virtual machine that I access over RDP when I access it on a high res monitor at a high dpi and then later access it on a lower resolution monitor. Restarting explorer.exe does clear up the issue. I also want to add that separately the clock on my second monitor is cut off irrespective of when I restart explorer. I also want to add that the main DPI issue doesn't occur when the taskbar enhancement is off but the clock issue occurs more often. I have my taskbar on the top of the screen and small buttons on.

 

This screenshot is of the DPI issue on the primary display (left) (it only happens on the primary display, not the secondary) and the cut off clock wasn't happening when I took this screenshot but is only a problem on the secondary display.

Reply #60 Top

Quoting mackid1993, reply 59

I noticed an issue that wasn't present in the earlier beta releases when I plug my Surface Pro 7 into my Surface Dock which is connected to 2 1080p monitors. This is definitely related to the DPI change as the same thing happens to me on my virtual machine that I access over RDP when I access it on a high res monitor at a high dpi and then later access it on a lower resolution monitor. Restarting explorer.exe does clear up the issue. I also want to add that separately the clock on my second monitor is cut off irrespective of when I restart explorer. I also want to add that the main DPI issue doesn't occur when the taskbar enhancement is off but the clock issue always occurs. I have my taskbar on the top of the screen and small buttons on.

 

This screenshot is of the DPI issue on the primary display (left) (it only happens on the primary display, not the secondary) and the cut off clock on the secondary display (right).

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Original 3301 x 49



 

I am not seeing a problem with the clock there.  If you have a smaller taskbar there is less vertical space for it obviously.

We shall investigate the scaling issue.  I assume the issue is the bar is bigger than it should be?

Reply #61 Top

I'm sorry, I don't know what happened to my above post. I tried to post an image but it came out as that massive amount of text. 

Just in case I uploaded the image to cloud storage and it can be viewed here.

Hopefully a mod can edit my previous post to remove that text, I can't seem to edit it now.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AnhNIptod6MQgdAQlGKLP1_X5VIQZg?e=qNIzb8

Reply #62 Top

Quoting Neil, reply 60


Quoting mackid1993,

I noticed an issue that wasn't present in the earlier beta releases when I plug my Surface Pro 7 into my Surface Dock which is connected to 2 1080p monitors. This is definitely related to the DPI change as the same thing happens to me on my virtual machine that I access over RDP when I access it on a high res monitor at a high dpi and then later access it on a lower resolution monitor. Restarting explorer.exe does clear up the issue. I also want to add that separately the clock on my second monitor is cut off irrespective of when I restart explorer. I also want to add that the main DPI issue doesn't occur when the taskbar enhancement is off but the clock issue always occurs. I have my taskbar on the top of the screen and small buttons on.

 

This screenshot is of the DPI issue on the primary display (left) (it only happens on the primary display, not the secondary) and the cut off clock on the secondary display (right).




Reduced 8%


Original 3301 x 49



 



I am not seeing a problem with the clock there.  If you have a smaller taskbar there is less vertical space for it obviously.

We shall investigate the scaling issue.  I assume the issue is the bar is bigger than it should be?

Hi Neil, I included a better image when I tried to edit my post but it seems to have encoded as text so I'm sorry about that. Yes the bar is twice the size it should be but the buttons are smaller.

Here is an image of what the clock on my secondary monitor looks like:

 

This is an image of what the taskbar on the primary monitor looks like:

Again sorry about that encoding issue with the other post!

Reply #63 Top

Quoting jlennox1, reply 58

I love the enhanced taskbar. One issue I noticed is "git gui" (the command you run to open the application)'s taskbar icon has what appears to be a a translucent mask color. On top is the Start11 taskbar, under is the normal Window's taskbar.



 

I believe this might be the file? https://github.com/git/git/blob/master/git-gui/lib/git-gui.ico

We will look into it.

I suspect thats a very old style icon with a mask and we are not processing the mask bit correctly thus causing it to look odd.

Reply #64 Top

Quoting cirosito91, reply 57

There is no possibility to block the dragging of icons in the start? because sometimes I don't want to move an icon and then find it somewhere else. I would like to understand once I have set all the icons in the right position is it possible to lock them?

Yes. In Windows 10 / 11 theme if you right click an open area of the start menu and open up the options, you will see "lock menu" If you select this your icons will no longer move.

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Reply #65 Top

I can't drag and drop when auto-hide taskbar is active.

The taskbar doesn't appears when mouse reaches the border screen to show hidden taskbar.

Windows 11 22000.556

Reply #66 Top

version 1.2 added Sign-in Options to the Shutdown menu, how do I get rid of it? - haven't found a option in the settings for it, or I'm missing something

Start 11 / ver 1.2 / Windows 10 style

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Reply #67 Top

I'm running Windows 11 21H2, build 22000.556 with Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22000.556.0. I just upgraded from Start 11 v 1.1 to 1.2. Clicking on the Start button doesn't bring up the Start 11 menu. The Windows key doesn't bring it up either. I can right click on the button and bring up the Win-X menu. I can right click on the taskbar and get to "Configure Start 11". But I can't get the button to work. I tried uninstalling Start 11 (but leaving my settings) and reinstalling 1.2 and rebooting, but that doesn't fix the Start button.

I have "enhance the taskbar" turned on (and I can't turn it off). I originally had the taskbar size set to "Medium", and if I reselect that size from the Start 11 configure screen and restart Explorer  I can get the Start button to bring up the menu, -for a few tries at least. Then the button stops working. If I set the taskbar size to either "Small" or "Large" the button appears to work OK repeatedly, and I guess that can be a workaround for now. But I'd like to be able to set it to "Medium".

Should I uninstall Start 11 again and NOT save my settings, then reinstall (and leave "Enhance the Taskbar" OFF)? Or should I try something else?

Thanks!

Reply #68 Top

Would it be possible to add a backup function to Start11 that backups your whole Start11 menu?
I believe this is kept in the registry so it could be a simple addition?

For the Windows 10 Menu I used Backup SML for example, handy when you lose your whole menu or parts of it due to an update.
On Mac I use something similar, Launchpad Manager that backups my Launchpad.

Reply #69 Top

Upon updating, not experiencing any major issues, except with these icons on the taskbar. The arrow, and the icon I want to always keep on the taskbar are unclickable.

Only after I click on the Internet Access/Volume icons, the icons on the left become clickable.

Reply #70 Top

Hello everyone,

With version 1.2 and running Windows 11 21H2, taskbar is aligned to the top.

 

*Only* when "Let Start11 enhance the taskbar" is enabled and only on the secondary monitors (I have 3, and the main one is fine) I see the app icons shifted to the top on the taskbar:

Main monitor looks normal

Also, another issues: I have a program running called "Traffic Monitor" that shows current traffic speed in and out. With "Let Start11 enhance the taskbar" it is no longer shown on the taskbar at all. Without "Let Start11 enhance the taskbar" option it looks like this:

And after enabling enhancement it's gone:

 

 

Reply #71 Top

Quoting m00nman, reply 70

Hello everyone,

With version 1.2 and running Windows 11 21H2, taskbar is aligned to the top.

 

*Only* when "Let Start11 enhance the taskbar" is enabled and only on the secondary monitors (I have 3, and the main one is fine) I see the app icons shifted to the top on the taskbar:

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Original 413 x 72



Main monitor looks normal

Reduced 70%
Original 411 x 75



Also, another issues: I have a program running called "Traffic Monitor" that shows current traffic speed in and out. With "Let Start11 enhance the taskbar" it is no longer shown on the taskbar at all. Without "Let Start11 enhance the taskbar" option it looks like this:

Reduced 40%
Original 716 x 434



And after enabling enhancement it's gone:

Reduced 50%
Original 574 x 136

 

I am afraid traffic monitor works in an unsupportable way and wouldn't be aware of the position of things.

Even without start11 it is broken as it cannot reserve any space so if the taskbar fills up buttons will go over it.  This is considerably more likely with ungrouped taskbar buttons.

On the button position issue, what scaling factor are your secondary monitors set to?

Reply #72 Top

Quoting Arthur, reply 67

I'm running Windows 11 21H2, build 22000.556 with Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22000.556.0. I just upgraded from Start 11 v 1.1 to 1.2. Clicking on the Start button doesn't bring up the Start 11 menu. The Windows key doesn't bring it up either. I can right click on the button and bring up the Win-X menu. I can right click on the taskbar and get to "Configure Start 11". But I can't get the button to work. I tried uninstalling Start 11 (but leaving my settings) and reinstalling 1.2 and rebooting, but that doesn't fix the Start button.

I have "enhance the taskbar" turned on (and I can't turn it off). I originally had the taskbar size set to "Medium", and if I reselect that size from the Start 11 configure screen and restart Explorer  I can get the Start button to bring up the menu, -for a few tries at least. Then the button stops working. If I set the taskbar size to either "Small" or "Large" the button appears to work OK repeatedly, and I guess that can be a workaround for now. But I'd like to be able to set it to "Medium".

Should I uninstall Start 11 again and NOT save my settings, then reinstall (and leave "Enhance the Taskbar" OFF)? Or should I try something else?

Thanks!

Why can't you turn off enhance taskbar?

Reply #73 Top

Quoting zme-ul, reply 66

version 1.2 added Sign-in Options to the Shutdown menu, how do I get rid of it? - haven't found a option in the settings for it, or I'm missing something

Start 11 / ver 1.2 / Windows 10 style


There isn't an option to hide this currently.

The menu is designed to match the existing Windows 11 one and provide the functionality it does.

I assume you would rather it did not exist?

Reply #74 Top

Quoting zme-ul, reply 66

version 1.2 added Sign-in Options to the Shutdown menu, how do I get rid of it? - haven't found a option in the settings for it, or I'm missing something

Start 11 / ver 1.2 / Windows 10 style


Yes, I don't understand why it exists

Reply #75 Top

Quoting zme-ul, reply 74


Quoting zme-ul,

version 1.2 added Sign-in Options to the Shutdown menu, how do I get rid of it? - haven't found a option in the settings for it, or I'm missing something

Start 11 / ver 1.2 / Windows 10 style



Yes, I don't understand why it exists

You could always right click the start button and use the "Shut down or sign out" menu which only includes "Sign out/Shut down/Restart."