Creation vs. Evolution
To quote Phoebe from Friends: "I guess the real question is who put those fossils there and why?"
| #472 by Aleatoric - 9/18/2003 8:30:04 PM |
| I personally have a problem with the idea that we are made to suffer as punishment for the sin of Adam. A just God isn't going to blame (or punish) the son for the sins of the father. |
| If "God" is so great, why would he need to give us a book to tell us how to live? Wouldn't we be born with such knowledge? Why would we have to be taught about "God". The spirituality of native American Indians is amazing, and they don't require a "book". *But* they do have a lot of folklore that is handed down from generation to generation (If you put that folklore in a book, you would have the equivalent of the bible, but in Native American Indian terms.) |
For some reason, I thought of this thread when I saw this:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/09/19/guinea.pig.ap/index.html
BakerStreet, the difference is that for science, it can be verified.
The Scientific Method requires that it can be verified and reproduced by anybody. By anybody of course, I mean somebody who has enough knowledge to understand how the heck it works. But if you have a friend who knows a lot about a specific science, you can ask him to verify.
The same can't be said about the Bible.
About the American Indians, indeed I had learned in Anthropology class that they didn't have writting. Thus the notion that Pre-History relates to before coming of writting would mean that American Indians were prehistoric, which of course is ridiculous. So that's why Anthropologists don't define Pre-History that way anymore.
| Kona is practically roasting on the stake in this conversation |
| Sequoyah devised the written cherokee alphabet in 1809. Previous to this Native Americans only recorded their history in representative art, all of which were only cues for people who knew the stories. I am unaware of any form of writing that allowed the reader to read a story in detail without someone witness to the oral tradition being there to for interpretation. |
So, Bakerstreet, are you in all honesty saying that, say Tolkien's Lord of the Rings, have the same truthfull value as any scientific article?
I know Descartes said we should do Tabula Raza (clear table), ie: forget everything we know, take nothing, nothing at all for granted and start thinking from scratch with no preconceived ideas... But there is a limit.
So the earth may not be round after all? I've never been in space to verify.
You mean maybe Middle Earth actually exists, and there actually could be orcs somewhere down around Mordor, and Elves in Riverdale? I've only really visited a few places on the planet, so I couldn't say for sure that having been everywhere they don't exist.
Hum, maybe next time I take a walk in the woods I should be careful not to step on a Smurf or two...

). As I've stated before, I believe in God as well, and that is clearly a matter of faith, and as a result, I have respect for the faith of others as well ( I don't believe in the same fashion as others, but that does not diminish my respect for their faith).
. I find that most people that call themselves 'skeptics' are at least as full of 'A Priori' knowledge as UFO hunters and 'paranormal investigators'. They tend to disbelieve anything they can't get a quorum of tenured faculty to agree on, and take scientific findings with little or no... skepticism? Funny, that. A noted Skeptic I know has a 'baloney detector' that he likes to cart around. Of course he, personally, decides when it goes off, since he can't carry a boatload of researchers with him. So much for skepticism.Welcome Guest! Please take the time to register with us.