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Reply #76 June 29, 2021 10:48:54 AM
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Quoting MMonsen,
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I gave up on Fences a couple of years ago due to a bug that causes two UAC prompts to pop up every time I boot my computer. If I deny them both, Fences still seems to run OK. Maybe there is functionality that is missing because I deny them. If there is, I haven't noticed.

Anyway, I installed the Fences 3.1 beta hoping that this issue was resolved, but unfortunately it was not. It would be really nice if this could be fixed.

I have tried using the "purge_fences.bat" file as detailed in this post, but it did not help.

I really love the functionality that Fences provides, but this UAC prompt issue has forced me to live without it.



Please refer to this https://forums.stardock.com/453303/get;3457350  and reply back here.

Thank you,

Basj,
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I am not running Fences "As Administrator". I simply run the installer, reboot, and I get the UAC prompts. I uninstall, and the UAC prompts no longer pop up after I login.

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Reply #77 June 29, 2021 11:08:49 AM
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Quoting sdRohan,
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Quoting MMonsen,
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Anyway, I installed the Fences 3.1 beta hoping that this issue was resolved, but unfortunately it was not. It would be really nice if this could be fixed.



It never was a problem with Fences. Almost every time we see this its because people have Fences to run as admin but should not:



Sean Drohan
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My steps are the following:

1. Install Fences.

2. Reboot when prompted.

3. Log in

4. Get two UAC prompts. Allow or Deny, doesn't seem to affect whether Fences works or not (but I could be mistaken)

5. Look at the properties on Fences.exe, the "Run this program as an administrator" checkbox is NOT checked. 

6. Uninstall Fences

7. Reboot

8. When logging in, I no longer get any UAC prompts.

Is there any sort of logging information or other data collection I could do to help? I'd really like to solve this issue.

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Reply #78 June 29, 2021 11:12:01 AM
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Quoting MMonsen,
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I am not running Fences "As Administrator". I simply run the installer, reboot, and I get the UAC prompts. I uninstall, and the UAC prompts no longer pop up after I login.

Do you have Windows 10 Pro? If so, please enable Sandbox.

After, install Fences on that running instance of it... Does it happen there?

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Reply #79 June 29, 2021 12:54:13 PM
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Quoting sdRohan,
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Quoting MMonsen,
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I am not running Fences "As Administrator". I simply run the installer, reboot, and I get the UAC prompts. I uninstall, and the UAC prompts no longer pop up after I login.



Do you have Windows 10 Pro? If so, please enable Sandbox.

After, install Fences on that running instance of it... Does it happen there?

Sean Drohan
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Yes, I'm using Windows 10 Pro.

As far as I can tell, there is no way to reboot a sandbox instance. Rebooting it resets the instance. I did some Google searches to see if there might be a workaround, but didn't find anything.

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Reply #80 June 29, 2021 12:59:59 PM
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Yes, I'm using Windows 10 Pro.

As far as I can tell, there is no way to reboot a sandbox instance. Rebooting it resets the instance. I did some Google searches to see if there might be a workaround, but didn't find anything.

Have you done a cleanboot with just Fences enabled?

https://forums.stardock.com/486084/fences-support-faq#cleanboot

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Reply #81 June 29, 2021 2:09:08 PM
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What is your desktop sort set to?

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Reply #82 June 29, 2021 2:12:16 PM
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I did remove the software and reinstalled 3.09 and the issue was still there that I could not move the fences. The option "Lock fences" was not visible in the 3.09 downgrade. I then did a "Perform automatic layout". I did a reset of the fences, but they still are not manageable

 

I can draw a new fences frame, but can't enable it.

 

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Reply #83 June 29, 2021 8:15:45 PM
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I did remove the software and reinstalled 3.09 and the issue was still there that I could not move the fences. The option "Lock fences" was not visible in the 3.09 downgrade. I then did a "Perform automatic layout". I did a reset of the fences, but they still are not manageable

I can draw a new fences frame, but can't enable it.

Have you tried this steps? :https://forums.stardock.com/486084/fences-support-faq#cannotmovefences

Thank you,

Basj,
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Reply #84 July 1, 2021 2:25:45 AM
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Hello, yes i tried this, but it did not help. I removed all Fences references in the registry (HK_CU) i saw and did a restart. When I then started Fences, i got the Initializion screen how to use Fences. From thereon I was able to create and modify my fences again.

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Reply #85 July 1, 2021 5:24:16 AM
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Hello, yes i tried this, but it did not help. I removed all Fences references in the registry (HK_CU) i saw and did a restart. When I then started Fences, i got the Initializion screen how to use Fences. From thereon I was able to create and modify my fences again.

So, this is resolve, yes?

Thank you,

Basj,
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Reply #86 July 8, 2021 6:32:22 AM
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To be honest, I have the same issue.

Adid try out the other profile test and fences did work there.

Than I disabled ALL programms and tools in the "autostart" of my main profile.

Everytime with a reboot.

But still the same issue. No fences and this pop-up window.

 

Dear Sean,

I made a logfile, like you explained and linked here in the forum.

Can I send it to you via pm?

 

Thanks in advance!

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Reply #87 July 8, 2021 8:19:02 AM
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I upgraded my Fences version for the Beta and it's been running fine with no issues,  until this week.  Now it's telling me that Fences is fixing to expire in 2-days.  I've tried activating it (Object Desktop User) using my Userid/Password, but it tells me that it's already in use on another PC.  I also have three other licenses for Fences that are used on two other Desktops and my LapTop, but these licenses are all in use.

Is this an issue with the Beta?  Do I need to reinstall Fences and get off the Beta?

Thanks!
Bill

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Reply #88 July 8, 2021 9:10:44 AM
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Stardock Fences 3.1.0.5 running W10x64 always does if I save a new file to the Desktop:

      

Can you fix this to have new icons being places outside fences rather than behind, please?

Any updates on this issue?

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Reply #89 July 8, 2021 12:28:36 PM
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I upgraded my Fences version for the Beta and it's been running fine with no issues,  until this week.  Now it's telling me that Fences is fixing to expire in 2-days.  I've tried activating it (Object Desktop User) using my Userid/Password, but it tells me that it's already in use on another PC.  I also have three other licenses for Fences that are used on two other Desktops and my LapTop, but these licenses are all in use.

Is this an issue with the Beta?  Do I need to reinstall Fences and get off the Beta?

Thanks!
Bill

 

Just an idea:

Go to stardock.com.

Log in your account.

Klick on your icon in the right corner.

Go to "my downloads".

"view product keys"

And there you can deactivate all your once used keys and devices.

 

Best regards.

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Reply #90 July 8, 2021 4:59:38 PM
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No luck,  For Fences I actually have four licenses; My Home Desktop, two Desktops in my Observatory and my Laptop.  My Desktop uses the license from Object Desktop and it's good out thru 2022.  But I'm getting a frequent message telling me that Fences will stop working in 1-day.  Not sure if this is a problem with the Fences Beta or a license activation issue.  I just reinstalled Fences OFF of the Beta and I'll reboot my Desktop in a few minutes and see what happens then.

Bill

 

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Reply #91 July 9, 2021 11:43:02 AM
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By the way...to be honest.....damn improtant!!!!

 

The almost known "touchpad" bug is still there with teh beta version.

I tried it with my surface. All drivers are up to date.

Any known progress with this issue?

 

Thanks in advance!

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Reply #92 July 9, 2021 12:18:43 PM
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The almost known "touchpad" bug is still there with teh beta version.

We tried very hard to work on that but it was to no avail.  It's not going to get resolved for the few that have reported it.

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Reply #93 July 9, 2021 12:20:02 PM
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Quoting wedward2,
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No luck,  For Fences I actually have four licenses; My Home Desktop, two Desktops in my Observatory and my Laptop.  My Desktop uses the license from Object Desktop and it's good out thru 2022.  But I'm getting a frequent message telling me that Fences will stop working in 1-day.  Not sure if this is a problem with the Fences Beta or a license activation issue.  I just reinstalled Fences OFF of the Beta and I'll reboot my Desktop in a few minutes and see what happens then.

Bill

Go here:

C:\ProgramData\Stardock\Fences3

Delete the license.sig and reactivate

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Reply #94 July 9, 2021 12:21:54 PM
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Quoting sintemal,
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To be honest, I have the same issue.

Adid try out the other profile test and fences did work there.

Than I disabled ALL programms and tools in the "autostart" of my main profile.

Everytime with a reboot.

But still the same issue. No fences and this pop-up window.

The something is wrong \ running on that profile that is killing Fences.  If I had to guess, it is annother Windows Shell app.

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Reply #95 July 9, 2021 5:23:06 PM
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I've been Running Fences 3.1.0.5 for a couple weeks now.  So far so good.

Windows 10 Enterprise v1809 64-bit, dual monitor setup on a laptop docking station.

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Reply #96 July 10, 2021 5:16:56 PM
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Quoting sdRohan,
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Quoting sintemal,
reply 86

To be honest, I have the same issue.

Adid try out the other profile test and fences did work there.

Than I disabled ALL programms and tools in the "autostart" of my main profile.

Everytime with a reboot.

But still the same issue. No fences and this pop-up window.



The something is wrong \ running on that profile that is killing Fences.  If I had to guess, it is annother Windows Shell app.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager

 

What would be another "windows shell app" e.g.?

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Reply #97 July 12, 2021 11:46:57 AM
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What would be another "windows shell app" e.g.?

The list would be endless. Generally, it would be items listed in a right-click context:

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Reply #98 July 12, 2021 6:31:28 PM
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Quoting sintemal,
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What would be another "windows shell app" e.g.?



The list would be endless. Generally, it would be items listed in a right-click context:



Sean Drohan
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My system is really vanilla in this case/menu.

Do you think you will release a tinytool to detect what crashes?

 

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Reply #99 July 13, 2021 10:25:17 AM
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My system is really vanilla in this case/menu.

Do you think you will release a tinytool to detect what crashes?

Then it's likely a setting difference and perhaps easier to track down if you have not made many. This is a known one that would cause it:

https://forums.stardock.com/502301/page/1/#3792138

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Reply #100 July 13, 2021 11:15:10 AM
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Quoting sintemal,
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My system is really vanilla in this case/menu.

Do you think you will release a tinytool to detect what crashes?



Then it's likely a setting difference and perhaps easier to track down if you have not made many. This is a known one that would cause it:

https://forums.stardock.com/502301/page/1/#3792138

Sean Drohan
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Thanks Sean for your work!

 

But my knowledge and research ended up with this:

"Yes, that was to show the exact combination the fixed the issue, which was just doing a custom rule for Explorer.exe and Enabling "Don't use high entropy""

 

Don´t know how or where to do that to test it.

Any suggestions?

 

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