Clear mod folder. Install GST (It goes in the GC3 Crusade folder, not mods, rar contains all the subfolders needed), boot game. See if it works. Install GRM etc. Test etc.

 well i added the files to the gc3 crusade folder in my games

I will re-install from scratch, but it does go in the GC3Crusade folder right ? I just copied the faction folder etc to the other faction folder. thats correct isnt it ?

C:\Users\**\Documents\My Games\GC3Crusade

All 4 folders in GST 2.0 for Crusade 3.0.rar go in the GC3Crusade folder. Not in any subfolders of any kind (Its all structured within itself)

Designs - Contains all the ships needed for the shipsets and a few extras.

Factions - Contains all subfolders for the Images needed for the included faction files.

Mods - Contains UCP mod folders.

ShipsetStyles - Contains Shipsets created with the ships located in Designs and are used by the Factions provided in Factions folder.

I have the culprit

the Romulan Star Empire cause the CTD .  I replaced the faction file with a fresh copy and it still crashed. I made a faction of my own using the homestar of Romulus , could this be what messed it up ?

It is very odd

all other races including my faction using Romulus works fine

it is the Romulan Ship Style that is causing it to crash.

I can use any other style with Romulans or other factions ,

But as soon as it tries to load the Romulan Shipstyle in a game , boom ctd.

Can you have a look Horem  ?

perhaps the program does not know which ship to load when your starting ship is selected such as a survey ship or colony ship

Thats odd, I have just had the Romulans declare war on me so I know it works, as they are using said ships. I'll take a look see and make sure I included all the ships in the design folder.

I downloaded the Airmaster Romulans civilization and have no issues with them. Is that the one you included in your mod Horemvore?

The one in the mod is a copy of what used to be in old GST, ships are from Omnibus and Airmaster.

Horemvore: Understood. Should work fine I never had any problems with the Romulans in GST. 

Jabberjaws: I started writing the traits and abilities for all the races as you requested and that was getting to be a really long list for a forum thread. Instead I will redirect you to a couple web sites that have the info you need. If there are specific races you need that would be fine but I don't want to hijack Horemvores thread, races attributes are a bit of a personal thing anyway.

The following have all the information you need to configure the races, memory alpha should be your primary go-to with memory beta used to fill holes:

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Species

http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Races_and_cultures

thank you guys

yeah its the Romulans that cause it to crash, but only the ships, If I use any for any race , its CTD on game load

they appear as a legitamate choice when choosing shipstyles and the graphics appear normal

I could likely narrow it down further by replacing the colony ship and survey ship , what are the names internally ? do all the Romulan ships start with Romulan ?

Jabberjaws, I just checked the workshop and unless Horemvore changed them all of Omnibus and Airmaster's ships usually start with the civilization name so yes they should all start with Romulan.

Horemvore: Just had something peculiar happen and not sure if it is UCP, GRM or base game related. I went from Interstellar Plutocracy to Objectivism and on the turn end compute my faction went from 1st to 4th, my score went from 2800 to 1300, my income went from +1800 to -280. Pretty bizarre since Objectivism is pretty much in the same branch with better bonuses for income and research. To make sure, I reloaded a save and did not change government type and 10 turns later the issue did not come back. Reloaded the save, switched to Objectivism and the same thing happened again.

Did you play with anything else aside from the colony limits? Objectivism has a drastic impact on pragmatism but I don't think that would reduce the overall score would it?

The decrese in income from tourism will effect you economic power. But no I did not change anything else.

I tried to use the scouts as the starting ships and STILL ctd but only with Romulan , gee

which ship is the colonizer and surveyor that is given with the starting ships ?

Romulan C04t_04D03A0E14E744AB98BCB9E976C34BAD , this is a ship file, maybe BAD means bad and it makes it crash.

Jabberjaws, if you can get to the main menu, try to edit the Romulans and change the ships. If that does not work, delete them and download Airmasters Romulan civilization from the workshop, that one works without problems since I have been using it for the last 4 games. 

I can certainly change the ships they use but I have no way to use the "steam" ships since I have the GOG version of GC3 no access to steam workshop.

Darn, maybe Horemvore can find the issue for you. I just checked Nexus but could not find Airmasters or Omnibus's factions and ships there.

This is my colony ship for the Romulans BTW 

C-10 Annexer_8258D04E851A484FBD95880BDF6F28EC_Romulan Star Empire_306F100F5BA54C9599544D10BB645A5C.ship

The surveyor is:

V-10 Pelican_7A5079358E464B08915433B2887316B2_Romulan Star Empire_306F100F5BA54C9599544D10BB645A5C.ship

thank you ,

one ship you mentioned was in my shipset but has a different name

C-10 Annexer_211E32B2F0614E9DAB28E877BE3D8508e.ship with no Romulan in the title

the V-10 Pelican is not there at all

it is clear we do not have the same ships but maybe there is a reason

JJ

OK, there is another culprit

unfortunately it is the KLINGONS

now one can hardly play Star Trek without the Klingons or The Romulans ?

So when I isolate the Klingons , the same CTD occurs on any sized map.

I reckon it has to be missing ships , i will test some more..

All confirmed , all races play fine as long as I do not use Romulan or Klingon ships but ...

JJ

Copy/Edit the offending civs, goto fleets, edit the ships, if the shipsets are borked all the required ships are included for you to readd/change etc, theres actually more ships than whats in the sets for quite a few of the well know races.

This is my complete designs, factions and shipset folders. As well as an updated mod. It all works fine for me. Extract it to My Games\GC3Crusade

Debug.err file from GC3Crusade folder right after it crashed would help, if you would be so kind.

Thanks Horem

I sent the debug to you , I did notice no path for mech Parts on it

JJ

Well , unfortunately the same problem exists so I guess the Romulans and Klingons will be using pirate ships lol

*********I am re=installing from scratch - there is something wrong with the install because the choice for frequency of crises events does not appear , and other problems, so it will hopefully fix the MOD problem too***************

fingers crossed

Thanks

JJ

Unfortunately no difference, still CTD wit using UCP. Likely still the same 2 races giving trouble

although the options for crises were restored   

Upload the debug.err file to a cloud sevice and post the link here

Hey Jabberjaws, check your inbox. Hopefully that helps.

Horem: already sent it to your inbox

Wotan i will check that now - check your inbox please