Questions about the value of OCing your processor.

Greetings! 

I currently have my 8700K over clocked to 4.7. This is the 'burst' or turbo speed it runs at when under load. I set the 'resting' state speed at 4.5. I am not sure what the terminology. 

 

Is there a value in pushing the over clock to 4.9 or even 5.0? I am using Corsairs H110i water cooler. 

 

I understand that speed will mean a few frame rates of improvement in game but is it worth it for the extra heat wear the processor will be doing over its life? 

 

Jaffo >> Do you over clock and if so where do you rest the OC at? Is there value in pushing it so high that my water cooler fans are always on? 

Right now my fans come on when I am under a heavy load or (turn 330 with 15 ai left on an insane map in Gal civ), << even then the turn times are flipping FAST compared to a year ago! << but that is another topic....

 

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Overclocking can have it's pros and cons, however I'm not an OC expert by any means and usually leave it up to the motherboard tweaking software that comes with the motherboard.

 

Pro:

CPU intensive items will see a large boost in performance, stuff like data compression, cpu based video conversion software, distributed computing like Folding AT Home will all see boosts in performance.

Cons:

Increased heat output from the CPU and any other component you've OCd requiring additional cooling

Increased power draw

Possibility of introducing corrupted data if the OC is not stable.

Many games will not see a noticeable performance increase when overclocking

 

Note:  I have found the Thermal Interface Material (TIM) within Intel CPUs is absolute garbage especially when pushing the CPU limits.  To get around this issue you typically need to De-Lid your processor and replace the TIM with a better TIM such as Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut or another variant of a liquid metal TIM.

Note 2:  Using the Liquid metal TIM can be very dangerous to your components if not installed correctly.

Note 3:  De-lidding & in most cases just the act of overclocking will void warranties so do so at your own risk.

Note 4:  By replacing the stock Intel TIM between the core and heat spreader the average per core temp dropped by 18c at stock speeds 

 

However yes with a Corsair H115i cooling an Intel i7-8700K I'm currently running max speeds of about 5.22ghz with the CPU usually bouncing between upper 3-4Ghz doing general desktop work

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Jaffo >> Do you over clock and if so where do you rest the OC at? Is there value in pushing it so high that my water cooler fans are always on? 

I have never overclocked any component of any computer I've had/made.

I buy for a performance 'out of the box' that is declared by the manufacturer as reliable/stable.

Possibly it's because I'm a 'petrol-head' and being such I look at the tacho as the important gauge, and not the speedo.

Engines have a redline for good reason, just as processors etc have a rated speed...;)

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Great information! Ill just leave it where it is.

I am not sure if my faster turn times in GC3 and Civ6 are due to fast 6 core 12 thread cpu or due to having 32 gigs of ddr4 ram..

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If you can keep it under sustained load under say 80C, even at 5 GHz, then by all means, OC it to that value. I would not go higher, maybe its just psychological, but not a fan of coming way to close to edge (in this particular case, thermal limit,  Tj max or whatever its called).

 It is up to you, if those additional 6 percent of performance is worth possibly degrading your CPU due to way too high temps way too often. I would not do it, personally i am keeping my CPU at nice 4,1 GHz, since even 4,3 GHz realbench stress test makes some cores run at 95+ degrees.  

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Quoting Timmaigh, reply 4

If you can keep it under sustained load under say 80C, even at 5 GHz, then by all means, OC it to that value. I would not go higher, maybe its just psychological, but not a fan of coming way to close to edge (in this particular case, thermal limit,  Tj max or whatever its called).

Between Delidding my processor and replacing the TIM with liquid metal and using a Corsair H115i "Dual 140MM fan AIO water cooler" my max temps are around 75C after hours of 100% cpu utilization running at about 5.22ghz.

 

@Larsenex if you don't mind voiding your CPU warranty, replacing the TIM is a good way to significantly drop the core temps possibly increasing the CPU longevity unless the CPU gets damaged during the delidding or the liquid metal gets applied improperly, also replacing the thermal compound between the CPU heat spreader and your heatsink with a better compound is a good way to drop temps a few more degrees compared to stock thermal material slathered on heatsinks in the factory.

Note:  Liquid metal thermal material has gallium in it which will destroy aluminum, so if you're using a heatsink with an aluminum plate or an alloy with aluminum in it, so you will have a bad time if you try to use one.

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I do not do enough deep cpu intensive applications to need that higher clock.

I am also not savvy enough to do it without screwing it up. I can get as far as an amateur computer build with water cooling but deliding and 'effing' it up would worry me.