Stupid Alien Tricks

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I'm posting this on my brand-new 4K monitor.

I'm not saying that having this monitor makes me better than you.

I'm not saying that having this monitor makes me morally superior.

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But I'm not saying it doesn't either.

If you have Galactic Civilizations III: Crusade you probably find the new economy to be a massive change from the base game.

If you don't have Crusade, well, yea, you're a bad person. Like, literally (not figuratively) history's greatest monster.  Go get it now HERE.

TRICK #1: Your Citizens are your most valuable resource

Every 10 turns you get a citizen.  What you do with them is how you control your empire.

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You see my production here? It's huge.  How did that happen? I invested 2 scientists, an entrepreneur and a worker.

 

TRICK #2: Adjacency Bonuses matter a LOT:

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On the picture above, my Space Elevator only provides 2 normally.  Put 3 factories around it and it goes up to 5.  That's more than a doubling.

Back in the base game, you didn't get "hubs" until later.  In Crusade, it's the other way around. You start with hubs and then can put things around them to really get your production to take off.

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See my research? It's 35 per turn! It started at 3.  How did I get the 10X increase?  By default, the computer core only gives +1 research. But by putting it next to my capital and 2 research centers I got it to 5.

Then, my research centers, like my factories, only do a little bit on their own but when they're adjacent they give huge bonuses.  Then add two scientists and boom.  The 10 points from my population with +5 from the computer score gets doubled by the adjacencies.

Why didn't the base game have such a cool setup? Because the AI wouldn't have been able to handle it.  When GalCiv III shipped, we assumed 2 CPU cores.  For Crusade, we targeted 4 CPU cores (you reading this probably have 4 or more).  That means the AI can split out its analysis while you take your turn and do much more complex decision making than before.

 

More to come...

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Reply #1 from Elemental Forums Top

how big is that 4k though...

and... you sure it's not a typo and you meant to type 8k instead? XD

can't imagine a 8k desktop on a tiny 32" text must be tiny...

Reply #2 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

It's 32 inches! :)

 

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Reply #3 from Elemental Forums Top

My 4k is 28". That means I'm slightly less on a piedestal than Frogboy. Also, imho, 28" is too small for 4k.

Reply #4 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

THIS FROGBOY use a simple TRICK to get MASSIVE boost to his COLONY! FIND OUT HOW!

BASICALLY your COLONY can't COMPETE!

COLONY governor HATE him!

Reply #5 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

If you don't have Crusade, well, yea, you're a bad person. Like, literally (not figuratively) history's greatest monster. Go get it now HERE.
This pretty shameless Frogboy, don't you think?

I will just give you some of the issues I found in my my first game (up to turn 200-ish):

 - Synthetic pop cap does not apply. I can happily build 50 citizens on a planet without building a power matrix or researching their tech branch
 - empty tech branches (spark of live etc.)
 - Tech branches that don't work (aquatic research on a synthetic race for example)
 - mass numbers in the ship designer don't add up
 - wrong or misleading tooltips:
 -> Discreet does one hell of a lot more than just give you a free merc at the start. Making it one of the best abilities in the game.
 -> benevolent research tier 3 does not provide a +200% research building anymore
 -> leaders give a flat +1 in addition to the 6%, moving them form 'meh' to essential
 - tech costing way more research points than comparable tech (beam and kinetic weapon miniaturization)

As much as I want to say about your smug statement above, I will stick with the points above, since they are objective.

This release feels rushed.

Reply #6 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

Quoting Heavenfall, reply 3

My 4k is 28". That means I'm slightly less on a piedestal than Frogboy. Also, imho, 28" is too small for 4k.

 

I guess I am bad. I only have a 17" 4k screen... On my laptop.  Oh well, someday I will be cool!   Ha

 

Reply #7 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

Couple years ago I had neither Crusade nor a big monitor. What a terrible person I have been ....

Reply #8 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

Quoting zuPloed, reply 5


If you don't have Crusade, well, yea, you're a bad person. Like, literally (not figuratively) history's greatest monster. Go get it now HERE.

This pretty shameless Frogboy, don't you think?

 

Seriously? Wake up on the wrong side of the bed? Humor challenged this morning? I actually thought it was funny and laughed. Yes, I know I'm weird...

Reply #9 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

Quoting Avatar137, reply 8

Humor challenged this morning?

Now that's funny!

Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top

Quoting Avatar137, reply 8

Seriously? Wake up on the wrong side of the bed? Humor challenged this morning? I actually thought it was funny and laughed. Yes, I know I'm weird...

Yep....you're weird....but we knew that...;)

Trouble is....online humour....sometimes you gotta know the comedian...

And dang it.....'humour' is a real word...stop underlining it...;p

Reply #11 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

Quoting Jafo, reply 10


Yep....you're weird....but we knew that...;)

 

Hey, after this many decades of perfecting this level of weirdness it's no longer possible to hide it any more... :)

Trouble is....online humour....sometimes you gotta know the comedian...

Or at least be able to relate to the type of humor. And just because you're down under doesn't mean you get to keep adding letters to words! XD  


And dang it.....'humour' is a real word...stop underlining it...;P

It is!?! :O  

Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top

Quoting Avatar137, reply 11

And just because you're down under doesn't mean you get to keep adding letters to words!

It's you guys up top that keep leaving them off .... JAFOCHECK ...;)

Reply #13 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

Quoting Jafo, reply 10


Quoting Avatar137,
reply 8

Seriously? Wake up on the wrong side of the bed? Humor challenged this morning? I actually thought it was funny and laughed. Yes, I know I'm weird...



Yep....you're weird....but we knew that...;)

Trouble is....online humour....sometimes you gotta know the comedian...

And dang it.....'humour' is a real word...stop underlining it...;P

Text can be easily to misinterpret because you can't hear the voice and tone. It spark out so many internet drama. That said, if you don't know the comedian, it feel almost like he insulting people for not having Crusade which is not his intention.

Reply #14 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

Something I've never been clear on... does it count if you have two cores and each can handle two threads? Is that sort of like having four cores, or is it just a marketing gimmick? Those of us who are poor and got our computers from really really nice friends want to know...

 

Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top

Quoting General, reply 14

does it count if you have two cores and each can handle two threads? Is that sort of like having four cores, or is it just a marketing gimmick?

Yes, yes, and no...;)

Reply #16 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

I have dual 28" 2K monitors.  Is that enough to gloat over?  The total possible resolution is 5120 x 1440, which is a 3:1 ratio.  I tried it.  GalCiv had no trouble with it.  That much of a space view does have it attractions.  Moving a cursor back and forth across that much real estate is just plain silly.  :) :) You would have to have a strictly designed one sided UI or you would wear people's wrists right off.

However, GalCiv on a 2K monitor is pretty darn sweet in its own right.  Battle Viewer showing off your own personal ship designs is very satisfying, especially if you're winning.!

Reply #17 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

Quoting Jafo, reply 15


Quoting General Pants,
reply 14

does it count if you have two cores and each can handle two threads? Is that sort of like having four cores, or is it just a marketing gimmick?



Yes, yes, and no...;)

 

Woo hoo! My new computer can do this (old one could too)! Thanks for the good news, Jafo! I'm doing the happy dance (and not just because the new Citizen system is ultra-cool and the best thing to happen to the game in a long time)!

 

Reply #18 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

Easy memo. Having more threads per core is better. Still, it also depend on how powerful the core is to begin with. i4 not going to top i7 core as an example.

Reply #19 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

Ok, so I am confused. Brad (or any other knowledgeable), please clarify!

How do you get 10 base production from 11 population?

I thought that base production was the square root of population: therefore about 3.3 from 11 pop.  I haven't come across any way to increase base production other than population. Is there later tech or something I don't know about?

I have achieved research >30 on two planets. One was similar to your example here except I had the comp. core next to an anti-matter plant (+5 adjacency) and on the second planet I had a merc. providing the +research.  In both cases, the contribution from population was not the biggest provider.

So what am I missing?

 

PS I second the idea from other threads that Leaders are way powerful. Providing +1 to all planets is Huge! Even in a small empire. Partly this is true because that 1 research is massive when you have nothing apart from population to generate raw research. So this issue fits right in with the above: what have I missed?

 

thanks in advance for any help... so far I really like the changes

Reply #20 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

Quoting nicknamealreadyinuse, reply 19

How do you get 10 base production from 11 population?

Asteroids?

Reply #21 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

IIRC, Centauri Prime spawn a few asteroid around it. Could be that.

Reply #22 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

Quoting FreedomFighterEx, reply 18

Easy memo. Having more threads per core is better. Still, it also depend on how powerful the core is to begin with. i4 not going to top i7 core as an example.

 

Oh dear, I'm going from an i5 to an i3. However, I looked it up online and my new processor is supposed to be better anyway. Oh well, I can still play the game! That is so much better than not playing! Thank you for the advice!

Reply #23 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

If you are not a kind of person that must crank every graphic option up to uber, you don't need it to be that powerful. Although, 4X game like this eat up CPU and RAM more than anything else. Upgrade both of those also benefit your PC outside gaming because it make it run and process everything faster.

Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top

Quoting General, reply 22

Oh dear, I'm going from an i5 to an i3.

You can't simply go by 'the number'.  There are generational differences.

You'll likely find that a current i3 has higher specs than an older i5...;)

Reply #25 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

That is also true. Some older i3, 4, and 5 outperform early version of i7, not to mention it did causing a problem too. If you know the name of PC part. Put everything on google to find out about it, even series number.