I am concerned about BUG's with Nvidia' Card -DX12 - and getting players.

I have a question,

Why are you advertising 

  • Nvidia GTX 970 or AMD R9 390 equivalent Video Card

When you must know that a GTX 970 can not handle DX12. I got a Nvidia Gefroce 970, and put it in my pc. I noticed immediately flickering with shadows, and poor appearance in graphics compared to my R9270.

After investigation - which I will not get into - the controversy around Asynchronization. 

I mean, now I have a R9390 - it is amazing, no stuttering - no poor image quality - frame rate is amazing -

I feel that you should state that NVidia cards need to be DX11 not use the DX12 feature.

Nvidia cards can not handle this game, and I concerned people will but this game with and experience poor performance. 

I feel that you will lose sales, and get a bad rap.

I know you are working with NVidia to correct this issue, but you cant 0 Nvidia is Parallel processing.. it just does not cut it - nor can do it.

 

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Reply #1 Top

Still alpha.

Reply #2 Top

Nvidia already threw a bit of a fit this past Fall when we implied they were having some...challenges with DirectX 12.

I remain confident that Nvidia will get it together before we ship.

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You have been spamming this stuff all over the Steam forum. It is so tiresome. Today I ran a full game on dx12 on Crazy settings (or whatever max is called) with my 970 FTW at 1920x1200. I could not see the FPS as I use Steam FPS counter and that is not working yet with DX12, however the game play was completely smooth. There is a problem with shadows flickering if you zoom out beyond a certain point and perhaps some projectiles flickering, but this is obviously a bug which will be quashed before release and is in no way indicative of the cards performance capabilities in any way shape or form.

Reply #4 Top

Because people need to know the TRUTH

 

Like the X Files.

You are getting ripped by BS from NVIDIA

I would say more than some issues.

People are going to go into Direct X12 with poor quality

I went to the computer store and the advertised NVIDIA as Dirext 12 ready

WTF>> man..

plug in an AMD> it will blow your mind....

All the NVIDIA models fail, and it is going to stuff up VR as well.

Reply #5 Top

My son's machine is an Nvidia 960, not even a 970.  I think you should probalby play with the graphics settings more.

Reply #6 Top

Purple Monkey Dishwasher

 

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Reply #7 Top

I really do not see what the issue is. This is a slow paced RTS. Frames per second is not a major issue. On a GTX 970 I get more than ample performance on high running DX11 or 12 no matter how many units I cram into the screen.

 

Please fix the links.

 

 

 

 

Reply #8 Top

I took my images down.

No point. you nvidia people will learn it when you get to dx12 games, and VR

=)

 

Reply #9 Top

Quoting molokoww, reply 8

I took my images down.

No point. you nvidia people will learn it when you get to dx12 games, and VR

:)

 

 

Daam!!!  Then i will stop play games until not have a AMD card because no point play games without it right!!! 

 

Oh you showld start Spam all over the world on gamers like me that still play on Win7 and on Win 8.1 ,because daam there is not DX 12 on those OS and we have so mush fun in so mush games, something rong with us right .

 

Is it we that are rong that not care Nvidea or AMD but care gameplay fun or is it you that receive a Radeon card on christmas and want spam in the next 8 months...

Forghet that and live with it, you  seems my kid when we talk about Ps4 Xbox Wii and the top pc.

 

Your post was about I am concerned about BUG's with Nvidia' Card -DX12 - and getting players.


The getting players its there because?

And your worries are about all games out there or only 1 game AOTS ?

I have a GTX 780 play crysis 3 all with hight but to have decent fps have to stay there, but on my 980 TI like most players that have 970 or 980, the diference its just brutal, play all ultra and the card still waiting for more,on GTA V all Ultra even on the advanced quality that push your memory card to an almost 5gb VRAM and still have a game without any kind lag impossible be more happy with nvidea.

so for me its like a player soccer ,you dont see a player quality just in 1 game you see his quality in all games season right...you follow me?

Reply #11 Top

yep.

Reply #12 Top

I'm very happy in DX12 with my GTX980.

Reply #13 Top

@Frogboy: What do you recommend ? Nvidia or AMD?

If you can't answer I understand.

 

Thank you for making a fun game. 

Reply #14 Top

Last Frogboy had said, he was using a 980 Ti.

 

If new GPU's weren't lined up to release soon I would recommend either a 980 Ti or an R9 390 depending on what other games you intend to play and what price point you were looking to spend.

New GPU's are rumoured to be released in June, I would recommend waiting a couple of months, to see if the new cards shake up the market.

Reply #15 Top

I have a GTX 970 and have been very happy with it.

Reply #16 Top

Happy on a 970. But yeah, if you are looking to upgrade then both AMD and Nvidia will have new card coming out, perhaps as soon as June, so not long to wait.

Reply #17 Top

I will always choose Nvidea , i have always buy the top Nvidea card every year.

Like i say on Nv forums  until we know Nvidea fix the DX12 problems,  i will stick to my Strix 980 TI cant buy any other until i have reviews of NV beating AMD like in DX 11.

Not that im worry because i run DX12 games without problems , i play TRaider DX 12 and Ashes without problems.

But we know that Nvidia’s Maxwell can’t perform anything like the concurrent execution that AMD GPUs can manage, and all because current drivers have asynchronous off ( they are there but are off ) Nvidia GTX 900 series GPUs do have the hardware capability to support asynchronous shading/computing but not until they fix and released a full of data and code to activate them.


 

I have buy Gears of war Ultimate edition and its a DX 12 disaster, DX 12 come too early showld have wait 1 more year to improve and fix problems.

 

You can read some more information here    http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidia-will-fully-implement-async-compute-via-driver-support.html 

 


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I can say definitively that GTX7xx cards get lower Ashes benchmark FPS in DX12 compared to DX11. I've read other posts that say a GTX980 performs nearly identically between DX11 and DX12. Darn good but still identical. The conclusion I draw from this data is that there is currently something with nVidia hardware or drivers (or both) that prevents them from fully utilizing DX12. Therefore, if I were to consider an upgrade, I might wait until the next generation of nVidia cards to see if they've addressed those issues. Or I might even consider AMD, which I've never actually considered before.

Reply #19 Top

I personally prefer AMD. It is better on DirectX 12 than NVIDIA right now.  However, I do a lot of streaming and I have yet to find a reliable video capture app that works in DX 12 and NVIDIA is faster in DX 11.

Reply #20 Top

Nvidia Pascal GTX 1080 8GB and GTX 1070 launching this summer (July), and they look very good.

Here are the Specs:

 

  • Pascal graphics architecture.
  • 2x performance per watt estimated improvement over Maxwell.
  • To launch in 2016, purportedly the second half of the year.
  • DirectX 12 feature level 12_1 or higher.
  • Successor to the GM200 GPU found in the GTX Titan X and GTX 980 Ti.
  • Built on the 16nm FinFET manufacturing process from TSMC.
  • Allegedly has a total of 17 billion transistors, more than twice that of GM200.
  • Will feature four 4-Hi HBM2 stacks, for a total of 16GB of VRAM and 8-Hi stacks for up to 32GB for the professional compute SKUs.
  • Features a 4096-bit memory bus interface, same as AMD’s Fiji GPU power the Fury series.
  • Features NVLink (only compatible with next generation IBM PowerPC server processors)
  • Supports half precision FP16 compute at twice the rate of full precision FP32.

 While AMD will have R9-490 and R9-490X (June)

Reply #22 Top

 

I'm in the nVidia camp myself, but this article's from September of 2015 and there's been no mention of this coming any time soon every since.

 

That said, a GTX10xx should go well with my 980 in DX12!

Reply #23 Top

Well anyway Nvidia does not have any other options now but to release a DX12 card asap, and AMD already did announced a while ago about releasing R9-490 and R9-490X by summer.

So that's old news here.

Reply #24 Top

Quoting Kazzerigian, reply 22




 

I'm in the nVidia camp myself, but this article's from September of 2015 and there's been no mention of this coming any time soon every since.

 

That said, a GTX10xx should go well with my 980 in DX12!

 

Hope so if that can be the true i will buy the top line without think , but i need benckmarks first on DX12 .

This time i have to see to belive.

 

But i hope HBM wont be forgot!!

Reply #25 Top

Likely both AMD and Nvidia coming out in June/July. I don't know if you will see HBM 2 this year. If I got a new card at this point I'd probably go AMD, hopefully with GDDR5X.