i have a dream ! or more !

to get AOTS my next game of the decade

first thanks, nice new game :)

 

i have specifics and global opinions :


         1. specifics

  1. please dont set unit move faster.  I know rushers will cry, and it makes me twice happy.
  2. please dont downgrade hades.  Yes, they win the game easyly.  Because ur a rusher.  Hades makes archer rush very dangerous, and its a perfect balance.  Rush Shouldnt works more than 20% of times, and rushers are thats what fuck at the end ALL the games.
  3. did someone ever used brutes  ???  does it open beer ?
  4. why dreadgnought doesnt have inside own troops, special factory, etc ?

 

2. stream economy

  1. in AOTS u dont buy things, u produce them with incomes, on a "just in time" mod. Goal is to have the less ressources and to never be <1.  great !!  good idea !!
  2. u dont buy things, u produce them.  But once they are finished, they dont use ressources. What a shaaame. units need energy, ammunitions, something.  Anyway.  Please, do something about it. ( yey, rushers will be fucked AGAIN )
  3. when ur planning a city built, ur priority is building.  When ur in war, ur priority is units. could u please get a special menu in the hive ?  some simple button : allow metal / radio for buildings, or planes, or .... in priority ?  Then i can easyly switch from a peace mod to a war mod ? That will allow me to start military production, slowly, according priority to buildings, and when radars says hello, its time to switch ... still a stream thinking.

3. upgrade

  1. FFS we need upgrades trees.
  2. i'll love other upgrades : buildings shield ( regenerating ), unit producing speed ( = think stream eco ) unit movement speed, metal and radioactive extraction rate per pit upgrades, etc ...
  3. i'll love a planning tree ( 1-2-3 : unit armor, 4-5 unit attack, 6 logistic, ) to be planned in 6 click, then works alone, as for unit producing.
  4. and more than all, i'll love REAL upgrades. Hell, no new attack, new amunition, invisibility, teleportation, nothing NEW to create ?  What a shaaame.

4. drones

  1. Please dont miss this drones and nano story.  Its time for games to handle this part of human story. Dont let them being fucking bees on the screen nobody cares about.
  2. they might be a specific upgrade tree, ending on a " nano drone mod " of each civilisation.
  3. autonomous working and fighting units might have specific improvement. Range, number, techs, whatever. 
  4. We should be able to win a game with drones and nano only, on a risky bet, or to use them for a specific function
  5. Do u see drones on radar ?  No, so, we definitely should have drone spy clouds everywhere.  Or drones radar.
  6. And drones might end on nanotechs.  Dont miss that turn :)

5. land troops.

  1. No land troops ??? Really ???
  2. Ur game isnt, for now, a kid game.  Ur public will not be the larger. and u think about giving us a game without MARINES ?? 
  3. tonns of small humans, running every where, with rockets, medics, digging, etc .... OMG, why miss that pleasur :)

6. EMP

  1. EMP could be used in traps, weapon, sucide, upgrade, but the war u try to describe wont existe without a SCARY EMP  ;)

 

Well, enough dreams.  Do ur best, it's already a nice game.  I'm just bored not to find players, though AI are dumbs !!

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Reply #1 Top

I dont know what kind RTS games you ust to play but...well ty for the feedback. 

Note: This Early Access game is not complete and may or may not change further. If you are not excited to play this game in its current state, then you should wait to see if the game progresses further in development.

Reply #2 Top

Quoting tatsujb, reply 2

welcome to the real world were there are more than 1 RTS in existence. but also welcome to this world; seems you took some time to come and meet us.

 

well, i dont see the point about ur sentence.  I'm just happy about the economy, and tell about my hope to see the game going more in a " stream economy".  nothing bad in my opinion ....

 

Quoting tatsujb, reply 2

we have those.

don't you notice you can only build one thing once you've first built another?

pay closer attention in your next game you'll see. the upgrade tree is on the map. (this is another one of these genius innovations from the genre of RTS you've seemingly never come about before)

 

Same remark as before.  Idea is great, but i hope u may go deeper in this way.  I would like to be able to " pre buy ", to get a buying line for the upgrades, so, to get an upgrade tree u can use, and not only watch.

 

I feel u on a defensive mode, chill budy.  I'm just happy of your work, please dont misunderstand.

 

Quoting tatsujb, reply 2

I don't think there are any "rushers" around left. even with higher speed on the units you'd be hard pressed to "rush" anything or anyone. even on the smallest maps it takes 15 minutes or more to get to your opponent's base on a speed run.

 

First multiplayer game i played, opponent try to atatck with massive archer army, right on my nexus.  if 15 mn is shortest, whatever, i had no single army .  feeled rushed...

Reply #3 Top

If you played against the normal AI, it would be hitting you with dreadnoughts by the 15 minute mark, so an archer "rush" at 15 minutes isnt crazy.

And don't mind Tatsubj. He has built himself an antagonistic reputation on these forums because he wants the game to be awesome. For him awesome means it has mechanics similar to SupComFA, and this game isn't there, neither in terms of development or design. He's the quirky cousin who everyone loves, but who everyone thinks might shoot up a Burger King at any moment, so they try to keep a distance. J/k.

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well, this story was VS human player.  he tried to rush, once, it worked.

 

I played today versus tough AI or ffa ( 3 normal + 1 challenging ) and had no difficulty.could check steam account hazyhaar screenshots for unis stats etc .

 

But still, this game looks awesome, or could be ;)

 

i really miss humans players, btw.

 

Quoting eviator, reply 4

And don't mind Tatsubj. He has built himself an antagonistic reputation on these forums because he wants the game to be awesome. For him awesome means it has mechanics similar to SupComFA, and this game isn't there, neither in terms of development or design. He's the quirky cousin who everyone loves, but who everyone thinks might shoot up a Burger King at any moment, so they try to keep a distance.

 

Sure he will be more friendly after that shot xD

Anyway, he can meet me on his awesome dreamed game, everynights actually.  I'm still looking for the god's combo that would be balanced later :(

Reply #6 Top

I am very unhappy today :(

 

After 50 mn vs 3 tough AI, my human mate leaved the game.

 

Then, game end.  FFS !!!!!

 

Thats insane, absurd, boring, please, let us finish games :(

Reply #7 Top

2 question today :

 

Is it possible to send new units into an army ( autojoin the army group + units locations )

 

will u think about squad formations ?  Simple pre defined formations, or, best of all, " save this formation for this squad " ?

 

If yes, would be great to be able to manage and save position of units into an army, and, why not, position of armys between them into a bigger scale group.

 

well, i may say shits also ...

 

Today when i double click on an unit, it selected all unit same type on screen.  Did i dreamed, or wasnt it working yesterday ?

Reply #8 Top

Well, i cant access ur link.

 

anyway, yesterday i played 7 games in multiplayer, 7 crashs.  I didnt finish a single one.

 

did something change in the game that could explain that ?

Reply #9 Top

Im sure a lot has changed. It's alpha this is to be expected.

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my question was : Did something change that could explain multiple crash i haven't got before yesterday ? 

 

If not, i would check my laptop. 

 

Reply #11 Top

Please, tell me WHY ( the hell ) we cant finish a multiplayer game when the others humans disconnected ???  Its sooo frustrating .

Reply #12 Top

Calm down. Did you not read the warning when the game starts about being pre-beta.

I would stick to single player until the next patch perhaps. The network code is ropey at best and they also do not have host-migration at the moment. So if the host quits/crashes/loses connection then the whole game dies. Really hoping much of this is addressed in next weeks patch.

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Reply #13 Top

Well, looks my english is really bad, sorry for that.

 

I'm so chill, and i love this game.  I'm ok with crashs, bugs, i'm happy to help even a bit. Stop feeling harrased or else, i just give feedbacks.  :)

 

You didnt understood my point :

 

1) i host a game

2) one human join

3) we play with 3 AI

4) one hour later, the other human left ( i am the host )

5) then, it says : no "other human left, game ending"

I dont speak about a bug, it always works like that.  And when i played one hour, i'll love to finish my game, event only with AI.  Makes sense, no ?

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Yeah, you're right, at the moment it doesn't let one human finish a game like that. Frustrating and something that needs to change.

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ok, glad to had been understood.

 

Sorry if i dont explain very easy what i think, i'm just french xD

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Reply #17 Top

I think it carries on unless the the person who quits is the host. Even that will change too at some point.

Reply #19 Top

Only thing I can add is that server migration will be in Beta 2 of the game (December 2015).  Had to make the call between that and the orbitals for beta. :)

Reply #20 Top

Good call, IMO

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Quoting Frogboy, reply 23

Only thing I can add is that server migration will be in Beta 2 of the game (December 2015).  Had to make the call between that and the orbitals for beta.

Yeah, probably the right choice as more people play offline than on and we want more things to play with too. But it does mean the host gets a slight bonus in a game because no one will want to kill him off till the end to avoid the game ending should he quit prematurely   ^_^

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Quoting Ticktoc, reply 25

Yeah, probably the right choice as more people play offline

 

hell, thats why i never found any player ?

 

For real, AI sucks.  I'm so sad not to find human players :(

Reply #24 Top

Woha. You think Ashes is APM heavy? Really?

It's nothing compared to most RTS's I play.