When will the sky stop falling?

Really.

Everyday there is some bad news, scandal, or tragedy on a global level. How are we all not dead yet with so many nuclear, bio,  chemical, cyber, and mechanical weapons win the hands of maniacs as well? Worst of all; we are the cause of our own problems, and continue to have as many screw ups as successes at everything we do. So how long will it be until the sky actually does fall for real this time, I am tired of waiting? ;)

 

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It got to 11.59 and 30 in the 60's.

Anyone alive then sees these days as a romp in the park....;p

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The environment will last a couple of hundred years, then the show's over.

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When the Sovereignty comes. :P 

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So how long will it be until the sky actually does fall for real this time, I am tired of waiting?

If the worlds past history is a gauge we will be around for awhile, but we all should realize that nothing lasts forever.  Enjoy today for we never know what tomorrow brings.    :sun:

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I think the sky has already fallen... that's why we walk around with our heads in the clouds and are completely oblivious to the mounting issues all around us.

:S

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Quoting starkers, reply 5

I think the sky has already fallen... that's why we walk around with our heads in the clouds and are completely oblivious to the mounting issues all around us.

:S

 

Sounds about right. If I had to guess though, it will be something really stupid like a solar flare or virus some as shat miss handles at the CDC. Though it has been a while since humanity had a good old world war. Haha

Either way I hope to be dead or rich before I have to really care. Though there is the small possibly that humanity will from a utopia were everyone has 10 acres and drones serve our every whim...all 7billion of us.

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bad news: we will pollute the biosphere to the point that it will no longer sustain humans.  good news: life always finds a way, and will continue here on earth - and humans will be history. I think of it this way:  "42, game over, reset Terra."

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Quoting DARCA1213, reply 6

Though there is the small possibly that humanity will from a utopia were everyone has 10 acres and drones serve our every whim...all 7billion of us.

That's got about as much probability as rocking horse shit..... NONE!!!!  If ever a utopia was created it'd cater only to the powerful and/or wealthy.  Ordinary folks would not be welcome... well maybe to perform menial chores the rich wouldn't dirty their hands on, but once done their arses 'd be kicked out.

 

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I wake up every morning, put on the news and hear of yet another shooting in Philly. This trend has been consistent for more than two months. Every single day! I give society not long before total anarchy ensues. When it does I'll sit on my bum and lmao. Society makes its own bed, now it gets to sleep in it. 

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Quoting Uvah, reply 9

I wake up every morning, put on the news and hear of yet another shooting in Philly. This trend has been consistent for more than two months. Every single day! I give society not long before total anarchy ensues. When it does I'll sit on my bum and lmao. Society makes its own bed, now it gets to sleep in it. 

That's a trend that won't go away until 'society' grows a brain... but I don't see that ever happening.

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Quoting starkers, reply 10

until 'society' grows a brain

Or the PTB's grow some big brass ones and stop catering to the money mongers. But I don't see that happening either.

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Quoting Uvah, reply 11


Quoting starkers,

until 'society' grows a brain



Or the PTB's grow some big brass ones and stop catering to the money mongers. But I don't see that happening either.

"I can hire one half of the working class the kill the other half"

It won't grow a brain.  Like one of the 'great industrialists' of the 19th century said:  (created the Pinkerton gang of thugs to terrorize and murder union organizers and sympathizers) said the above.  What did you think the militarization of the police is really about?  Go look at the FBI website:  All the protests against the uber -trade deals are listed as 'terrorist.'  Even the recent ones where the AFL-CIO participated.  Anyone who puts people rights above property rights is labeled a terrorist by the FBI web site.  And hungry people can be bought really cheaply. 

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Quoting ElanaAhova, reply 13

Like one of the 'great industrialists' of the 19th century said: (created the Pinkerton gang of thugs to terrorize and murder union organizers and sympathizers) said the above. What did you think the militarization of the police is really about? Go look at the FBI website: All the protests against the uber -trade deals are listed as 'terrorist.' Even the recent ones where the AFL-CIO participated. Anyone who puts people rights above property rights is labeled a terrorist by the FBI web site. And hungry people can be bought really cheaply.

So what you're saying, Elana, is that power and wealth is the nightmare?

Yup, when you look back on it honestly, most woes that have befallen the ordinary bloke and his family were created by those of power and wealth.

Heaven forbid I ever become rick and/or powerful.

I'd hate to become one of them.... though I wouldn't mind a few quid/$ for a rainy day. :grin:

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Everyone always seems to blame the rich for all the worlds ills. And while yes they can be held responsible for some pretty horrible things not everything is "The Corporations" or "The Rich" fault. Some times we the ordinary folk have to take our share of the blame too. After all without US the rich would be poor, The Corporations would be weekend stalls. WE perpetuate the demand for everything quicker, easier etc. It's easy to just lay the blame elsewhere but much harder to take some of the responsibility ourselves. Until that happens the world will just keep on heading for ruin and we will blindly just keep on enjoying our so called ease of life technologies. So instead of occupy Wall Street or occupy some rich guys toilet how about we occupy or own consciences and maybe just maybe grow the fuck up a little :) 

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Yes, it's much better to not have rich people.  If only we were all peasant farmers living to our mid 40's, free of such horrible things like modern transportation, medicine, supermarkets...

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Quoting Uvah, reply 9

Society makes its own bed, now it gets to sleep in it.

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Its not the rich, its the disconnectedness that isolating oneself (one selves) from 'neighbors' who are less well off, social stratification, gated communities, (etc.) that allows greed to go rampant.  Two aspects:  First, when one perceives others as '"its," objects to be used, and not cared for, greed gets unleashed.  two) as a recent article in Psychology pointed out, many CEOs, CFO, share a lot of traits with sociopaths (not Psychopaths - big difference). That trait is the inability to feel for others, (or, perhaps the ease with which one turns off empathy for those who don't interact with you on a daily basis.  The issue isn't uber richness status, but rather what it usually takes to achieve that status.  Therein lies our shared fault.

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Case in point: A few days ago while watching nbc10 news there was a segment that dealt with low income housing. Apartments created for those families living at or below poverty levels. One such family, a mother with two young children, had been waiting over a year for an apartment. An apartment that should have been theirs was quickly snatched up by another family of two, husband and wife. They got the apaetment and when investigative reporters learned that this couple earns better than six figures a year, they startede asking questions. Turns out the director of the building, when questioned, laughed and said..."But they pay fair market value". My point being is that if you got the bucks you can pretty much do as you please. Money can buy you anything and anyone if the price is right. 

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Quoting ElanaAhova, reply 7

bad news: we will pollute the biosphere to the point that it will no longer sustain humans.  good news: life always finds a way, and will continue here on earth - and humans will be history. I think of it this way:  "42, game over, reset Terra."
You underestimate the adaptive ness of the human body. Just take a look at Shinodal, time moved on, and animals bread normally. They spread in spite of deformities. That would probably happen to the human race while the body adapts to our new environment.

Quoting Uvah, reply 9

I wake up every morning, put on the news and hear of yet another shooting in Philly. This trend has been consistent for more than two months. Every single day! I give society not long before total anarchy ensues. When it does I'll sit on my bum and lmao. Society makes its own bed, now it gets to sleep in it. 
Been waiting my whole life for that, at this point I'm not seeing this happening; unless your talking about seven scrolls. Even if the revalations plagues happen society would probably stay ordered during that. The reason why that is not happening is we are living in a democracy, and when I was learning about if we could govern ourselves I discovered that people cared more about what you gave them then what's good about our country. What's keeping people from rebelling against a dictatorship is the fact that the government is bribing us to do this.

Quoting Uvah, reply 11

Quoting starkers,
reply 10

Or the PTB's grow some big brass ones and stop catering to the money mongers. But I don't see that happening either.
I'm going to take this to mean something else, so I can add my two sense. The problem is not the rich gets tax breaks. It's the fact that no one calls them on their tax breaks. I mean if I'm saving you money, so it can trickle down to your workers then you should have to show me proof that is what you are doing compared to when you didn't have the tax break. Now as far as business goes its not bad when new jobs are created. It's not bad when old jobs are kept. That is how we broke away from the feudal system. That required people willing to invest into this. This is what this post seems to rant against the most. Without these people we would still be under a king, Someone had to invest in us. With America we have another solution which is stocks where even poor people could do this which is invest into the middle class. Now technically if all you did is save their money, and never used it then all your doing is hurting inflation, and that kind of rich is bad. Now I understand that all you people who are not smart enough to be rich are mad at all those who are smart enough to be rich. Those who are born rich, and never do anything with their money are useless. It stands to reason this system would fall apart if everyone was rich; because there would be no one to build things people things people need, so everyone would have to make their own goods with awhatever they had on hand. Society would then break down. Factories would close.
Quoting starkers, reply 14

Quoting ElanaAhova,

 Heaven forbid I ever become rick and/or powerful.

I'd hate to become one of them.... though I wouldn't mind a few quid/$ for a rainy day. :grin:
What does changing your name have anything to do with this. What's wrong with all the Ricks of the world. I had to sy that. Ha!Ha!

 

 

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Quoting Jafo, reply 1

It got to 11.59 and 30 in the 60's.

Anyone alive then sees these days as a romp in the park....;P

I remember that.

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Quoting starkers, reply 5

I think the sky has already fallen... that's why we walk around with our heads in the clouds and are completely oblivious to the mounting issues all around us.

:S

 

Yes.

 

Basically, it's over.  But one would also be foolish to welcome a paradigm shift (as the OP suggested), or the ending of an era - historically not many people make it to the other side..

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Quoting Nimbin, reply 15

Everyone always seems to blame the rich for all the worlds ills. And while yes they can be held responsible for some pretty horrible things not everything is "The Corporations" or "The Rich" fault. Some times we the ordinary folk have to take our share of the blame too. After all without US the rich would be poor, The Corporations would be weekend stalls. WE perpetuate the demand for everything quicker, easier etc. It's easy to just lay the blame elsewhere but much harder to take some of the responsibility ourselves. Until that happens the world will just keep on heading for ruin and we will blindly just keep on enjoying our so called ease of life technologies. So instead of occupy Wall Street or occupy some rich guys toilet how about we occupy or own consciences and maybe just maybe grow the fuck up a little :)  
This is not a rant on the U.S., but a rant on technology. I mean the same could have been said about the wheel, pottery, or farming. The object of technology is to make things easier. Take a look at the combine. As things get easier. Less people are needed to work the previous jods. Encouraging them to find new jobs. This is where entertainment comes into play. Of course without organization this is also not possible. Some one needs to organize this, or none of this would happen. I mean someone would've invented the wheel, but if there was no one to teach that just think how far this would've made it as a family secret. How much of the world today would not of had it, and without teaching it, or writing it down it eventually would have been forgotton. Also if this was a family secret their would also be a lot less uses for it. Same would apply for everything.

Quoting Uvah, reply 17

Quoting Uvah,

Society makes its own bed, now it gets to sleep in it.


Everyone is complaining how we are loosing rights, but I noticed the government is not bothering to take away our more fundamental rights just convincing we don't have them. Like our right to make bills on a state level. All we need to do is get 850 signatures on a petition. We can decide to do this through state congress, or let the people vote on it. Just in case you don't trust what the government says. You rely on the peple unless no one agrees with you. Business's figured out that they can go to the people if the government doesn't like what there doing. There is no regulation that says a person can't do this. This actually doesn't cost much money. It does cost gas money, and a lot on man hours to do this. People would rather relax than make bills on their time off. Even though a whole business developed around this, Things haven't changed that people can get petitions signed. You would have to look it up how to do this. The right to protest is still there. Ok hiring a lobbyist costs to much money don't you think would make a nice fundraiser. Going down to city council meetings to voice your opinions. Have you ever written to your political party to let them know how you feel. It seems like everyone would like their party to tell them how you feel instead. So we have some power to make laws on the local, and state levels; even though we are not in government. With division of power that means that all three forms of government has to enforce their own laws. The state doesn't have to enforce local or federal laws and vice virsof. Who has written to their federal and state representatives lately. No wonder the government knows what you think instead of writing you have forced them to rely off of the political parties which are telling you what to think. I noticed that the government has not tried to remove these rights.

 I just want to point out that the problem with the soviet union was not the rich people, but all the poor people that thought they should have it for no appearent reason. The UN announced that global warming was political not scientific. In truth this whole solar system has been warming up. Without rich people the middle class would never have existed. Without the middle class we would still be feudalistic, and most of the wealth in our country is in the middle class. The trick is to convince you that is not so.

Now if we are not talking about rich, but 210 elite people who are not one government has already stated that they want to lower the population from 7 billion to 1 billion not because of over population which is one of there schemes, but it is easier to control. Another scheme is to declare us zombies so they can slaughter us even if I'm waiting for the zombie apocalypse. At the same time they want to drug, or poison the survivors so they can be controlled better that is why there is so many phychosis. We think they don't want us on drugs when they actually do. Those guys we need to watch out for not the rich. Those guys are pro feudalism where the rich are pro democracy. These guys would rather distract you with other stuff, and are not loyal to one country, but are loyal to themselves.

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It's why we should already be mining, living, and further exploring outer space. Of course, we still have much unknown about our own deepest oceans, as well.

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Quoting admiralWillyWilber, reply 23

Now if we are not talking about rich, but 210 elite people who are not one government has already stated that they want to lower the population from 7 billion to 1 billion not because of over population which is one of there schemes, but it is easier to control. Another scheme is to declare us zombies so they can slaughter us even if I'm waiting for the zombie apocalypse. At the same time they want to drug, or poison the survivors so they can be controlled better that is why there is so many phychosis. We think they don't want us on drugs when they actually do. Those guys we need to watch out for not the rich. Those guys are pro feudalism where the rich are pro democracy. These guys would rather distract you with other stuff, and are not loyal to one country, but are loyal to themselves.

 

Scary!