founders program

Nope. If you are a founder then you have bought the final game. Prior to the release of the final game you will also have access to the Alpha and Beta versions of the game.

aaah, its because i read this What kind of perks do Founders get?Our Founders are invited to our alpha test, before the general public gets a chance to try out Ashes on Early Access. Founders also get access to exclusive behind-the-scenes development materials in the Founder's Vault, and of course a discount off of the game’s full price

I feel like this is not obvious at all. It needs to be CLEARLY stated on the founder description that you receive the full release game.

yeah, i feel the same way..i have an itch to buy it. game developers come here no..ryat..frog boy? maybe they can shed some light on this to be sure.

Also there is an Elite Founders program, which also gets you all future DLC and expansions. Good if you know you will want to play the game long term. Founders can upgrade to Elite later, but only until the Early Access deadline. You cannot purchase founders or elite founders after the game goes to Early Access, which they initially said may happen as early as late summer.

yeah i have read the description for the elite version.

To clarify, yes you get the whole game! Purchase it now, during Early Access, or after release, you get the full game. Personally, it doesn't make much sense to charge full price and only give you alpha, or beta, or EA but not the full game at release. It's almost cruel. 

im assuming you are from stardock? you guys should really clarify this. i havent bought it yet for that reason and im guessing theres others like me but who havent taken the time to post. appreciate your help!

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