Is there alien intelligent life in the universe?

The odds of UFOs and aliens visiting earth seem remote

I often talk to people who are convinced that that aliens are visiting our planet. They believe in UFOs.  Having thought about it, I've concluded that it's highly unlikely that we're being visited by aliens.

It's not that I don't think there is intelligent life in the universe. Space is big. Very big. And there are trillions of worlds in this universe and so statistically it seems pretty likely there are intelligent beings on other planets. But how close would these beings be?  One of the great misconceptions about evolution is that intelligent life, such as humans, is inevitable.  It's not. In fact, consider this: In the something like 3 billion years that the Earth has existed, humans are the only ecomorph that could have built a civilization.

Let's talk about ecomorphs first.  An ecomorph is a general bodily shape. Pick a time in history and odds are the same ecomorphs will appear.  Eliminate mammals and reptiles from a habitat and eventually you will end up with birds that will fill all the ecomorphs. Hard to believe? It's happened countless times.  New Zealand was once totally dominated by birds who filled in all the common ecomorphs. Mammals and reptiles failed to colonize New Zealand because of its relative isolation. Over time, these birds evolved to form the common ecomorphs (flying predators, land based predators, land based herbivores, etc.).  We think of birds as feathered flying things because that is the one ecomorph that this particular class of animal has successfully dominated.  But take away the mammals and reptiles from say North America, give some time, and you'll end up with herds of large animals that are essentially flightless birds.

Some ecomorphs show up again and again. Vultures, for instance, are on every continent even though genetically they have nothing in common. They are simply two types of birds that evolved to fill that niche (the flying carrion eater). It's really the niche that determines the ecomorph.

Which brings us back to our friends the humans. Humans have a few very unusual traits amongst animals. Traits that are all required in order to have built civilization (as we know it anyway). The first trait is obvious - large brains. Brains, however, are not very advantageous until they get to a certain point. They consume a great deal of energy and thus require a lot of food to power. That energy has to deliver something pretty useful in exchange or the species quickly becomes extinct. A large brain on its own isn't enough. Dolphins have reasonably large brains and they're not likely to be colonizing space any time soon. This brings us to the second particularly unusual trait amongst humans - our arms (not hands, we'll get to that). Consider every animal you can think of in the history of the world. How many can perform the simple duty of reaching back and touching their own backs?  In the 3+ billion years that life of some sort has existed on this planet, only primates have evolved to be able to do that. What a fantastical coincidence that primates happened to be blessed not just with this truly unique ability but also have large brains? And don't kid yourself, the two did not evolve together. These two things were happy coincidence that led to the final and most important and unique trait for humans.

The last and most important trait that is unique to humans and yet required to build a civilization is our hands.  Once again, out of the billions of species of animals that have existed on this planet, only humans have hands this dexterous. Not even our primate cousins can do as much with their hands as we can. Forget our huge brains for a second. Our hands on their own are truly unique. We can make things with our hands. Of course, making things with our hands would mean nothing without our large brains. But having one does not necessarily mean the other would evolve.  Give a gazelle a large brain and it's still lion food. Give it our hands and it's still going to get chowed down too.

In other words, humans aren't just unique for our large brains. There are 3 different wholly unique aspects to humans that in all the history of our planet never evolved as an ecomorph before. The dinosaurs roamed the earth from 300 million years ago to 65 million years ago. Did any of them have the ability to reach behind their heads? Did any of them have hands that could grasp and manipulate anything? Did any of them have particularly large brains? No. The closest you get are the raptors who are probably only as smart as a mid level mammal (despite what Jurassic Park may make you think). And they weren't scratching their backs with their claws.

And consider the unlikely ness that mammals are the dominate species at all. If it weren't for a meteor hitting the earth precisely 65 million years ago there's nothing to say that dinosaurs wouldn't still be masters of this planet and our ancestors still being small rodents on the edge of extinction.

So what does this have to do with aliens? A lot actually. You see, while we can debate all day whether life may exist elsewhere in this galaxy or universe, the real question comes down to what are the odds of intelligent life existing. Even if you manage to get life going in the first place somehow, and even if they somehow manage some sort of sexual reproduction or equivalent, you aren't anywhere close to having intelligent life. And I suspect just getting complex life requires a number of exceedingly unlikely events to occur. And it seems pretty obvious that getting to intelligent life requires a set of remarkable coincidences that are so unique and so unlikely that it's not something we're likely to find on even 1 out of a billion planets that already have complex life.

Which doesn't rule out intelligent life. Like I said, space is big. But that's also the problem. Space is very very big. And so if there is other intelligent life out there, the odds are that it is very very far away.

And if it is really that far, it just doesn't seem likely that they would use their trans-galactic-warp engines to buzz hicks on farms like a bunch of rowdy teens taking out dad's car.  I think the more likely scenario is that intelligent life is simply too far away for us to realistically ever come in contact with. Then again, I could be wrong. And if so, I'll be the first to welcome our hyper-intelligent space ant overlords.

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Forgive me for being dense, but what does the ability to pat yourself on the back have to do with humans being able to ascend to some sort of civilization?
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Sacha: why can't you be thankful for no other reason than to get rid of that annoying itch.

Brad, fine speculation. Why don't you take a crack at my "First City State"?
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Have you heard of the Drake equation?

Drake came up with this equation in 1961 to determine the likelihood of us ever finding intelligent life from another planet.

N = R x fp x ne x fl x fi x fc x L

where
N is the chance
R is rate of formation of suitable stars to support planets in a habital zone (radiation, energy, light, etc)
fp is fraction of those stars actually with planets
ne is the number of suitable 'earth' planets
fl is the fraction of those planets where life develops
fi is the fraction of those planets where intelligent life develops
fc is the fraction of those planets where intelligent life form technology based civilations
L is the lifetime of the communicating civilizations (before they become extinct)

Most scientists will use Drakes equation and focus on a variable when talking about such chances. Your article focusses primarily on fi and fl.

Paul.
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I guess that you mean the ability of standing up when you take about using your arm to whatever you want.
Human belong to the species of Homo sapiens (= wise), the previous species was Homo habilis (= dexterous) able to use its hand, development of the grasping ability. The previous species was Homo Erectus (=able to stand) and was the beginning of biped motion and subsquently the potentiality of arm could be developed.

Am I right ?
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The difficulty with the Drake equation is filling in the numbers. :)

R we can make a reasonable guess at. fp is growing with each passing month (as opposed to older theories which had planetary formation as more rare, we're reaching the point where we can start to get limited quantitative numbers). ne is still up in the air (and may well have dependencies like a Jupiter-like vacuum cleaner being around to sweep up or eject debris to give the earth-like planet a destiny of other than a cosmic punching bag). etc.

We're still a sub-Type I civilization. For all we know, maybe a monolith from a type II or type III has been sitting patiently on the moon for the last million years on the off chance Earth stewed up something that managed not to irradiate itself.

http://www.mkaku.org/articles/physics_of_alien_civs.shtml

Kris
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JEPEL, we evolved from Home erectus and Homo habilus.

Sacha: As for why it's important that our arms are so maneuverable -- give a lion or a horse hands, make them bi-pedal even and they're still not going to be able to build the pyramids. Try getting on a horse without moving your arms in ways that only humans can do. Try taking the groceries out of your car without ever moving your arms in ways that other animals can't.

Some things you can do without moving your arms around much but most things are much more difficult.
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The origins of life does seem to be a reasonable place to start when discussing whether or not there is intelligent life out there, but I find it fascinating that most of us seem willing to accept a highly improbable series of extraordinary coincidences as explanation for the origins of life without giving any consideration to the possibility of intelligent design. I find it particularly fascinating given that we constantly observe intelligent (human) design, but I am aware of no occasion in which extraordinary coincidence has resulted in the creation of anything. We discard the simplest conclusion, and that most consistent with our own experience because we dislike some of the implications. That’s not science, that’s religion at its worst.


How is it that we’re willing to accept an extraordinary series of coincidence for a physical universe with such elegantly contrived laws governing it, but none of us would consider for a moment that anonymous, virtually illegible spam is the result of coincidence? It is frightening to contemplate that people exist who are simultaneously sufficiently annoying, semi-literate, and wired to generate some of the spam that I receive, but I don’t anticipate that anyone will initiate research to determine whether spam is the result of intelligent design or is merely a coincidental side-effect of electronic noise generated by solar weather, alien observers’ anti-gravity engines, or rodents gnawing on a cables somewhere.


If we assume that our universe is the result of intelligent design and accept the core scriptures shared by those of the Jewish, Christian, and Islamic faiths as true, then we must conclude that there is indeed alien intelligent life in the universe. Those ancient scriptures are full of references to aliens of all shapes and sizes, humanoid and clearly non-humanoid, with good intent and with evil aspirations. Call them angels, cherubim, seraphim, demons, etc, they are clearly alien, clearly intelligent, and like us, created.

Hyper-intelligent space-ants? I doubt it, but wouldn’t it be fun? I think it would be even more interesting if they came with a philosophy based upon the great Queen ant, creator of all hives, who sacrificed herself so that worker ants could feast with her in the afterlife.
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brad I think that was the point I was making. But still, the evolution step that you attribute to being able to scratch your back largely depend on being a biped.

Another point, having a large brain doesn't make necessarly intelligent. It's more related to the surface of the brain and how many fold you can set. I think human have 4 folds where mammal have 3, reptile and bird 2. Something like this.


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Problem is that most people think of "intelligent life" as being someone very similar to ourselves.

In reality intelligent life could be in forms we might not even be able to recognize. Perhaps a conglomeration of energy that can move about space without a second though. Perhaps something that lives in the dust cloud of comet.

What I mean to say is that too many people think of aliens as carbon-based creatures that exist on the same demension as we do. IN which case....yea pretty slim chance of meeting them until you eliminate the time it would take to travel. If you can manage that, well then it stands to reason that if they universe is infinate, then even though it's very rare to have someone like a human come to be, it would happen an infinate number of times throughout space :)
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Engeeke, your response echos my own thoughts on the subject, so I won't repeat. Just adding my agreement.
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Why look to the stars for intelligent life? I'm too busy trying to find it on Earth. There are exceptions who shine with a brillance that amazes us all..but the majority of human life is the Jerry Springer rejects that lurk inside all of us. Until we can conqure our own problems, I wouldn't want to meet anything as "equal" or more intelligent than ourselves.. Or it'll be "bowing to hyper-intelligent space ant overlords".
And on that note, if you were this race of aliens, would you want to have anything to do with humans (other than take advantage of them)?

Where, when, what, and how..these aren't the questions. Why, that Is the question.
Reply #12 Top
Perhaps the aliens are playing with us right now. Imagine, just like a cock-fight or pit bull-match, perhaps we humans are an alien entertainment vehicle, a planetary scale cock-fight.
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The origins of life does seem to be a reasonable place to start when discussing whether or not there is intelligent life out there, but I find it fascinating that most of us seem willing to accept a highly improbable series of extraordinary coincidences as explanation for the origins of life without giving any consideration to the possibility of intelligent design. I find it particularly fascinating given that we constantly observe intelligent (human) design, but I am aware of no occasion in which extraordinary coincidence has resulted in the creation of anything. We discard the simplest conclusion, and that most consistent with our own experience because we dislike some of the implications. That’s not science, that’s religion at its worst.

Let's say it was intelligent design for the sake of argument. That certainly doesn't make alien intelligent life more likely does it?

But still, the evolution step that you attribute to being able to scratch your back largely depend on being a biped.

Jepel: Being bi-ped doesn't give you arms that are highly moveable. The Tyranosaurus Rex and Kangaroo are both bi-pedal.

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In regards as well to " I am aware of no occasion in which extraordinary coincidence has resulted in the creation of anything.", alot of things we humans have 'discovered/created' with modern science has been meer accidents and coincidence. Silly putty, anybody? ;)
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You know as well as I am that the discussion of the creation of silly putty is classified. The security teams have been sent to pick you up even as we speak...
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Eeep!

Maybe we should make a list of things accidently discovered in the name of science that has proven useful to mankind, though not the original invention intended. ^_^
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Penicillin - accidental discovery

Microwave ovens - accidental discovery

To name 2 off the top of my head.

Paul.
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What you say about humans being able to build with their hands is true, however you should also note that many other animals can build elaborate and complex structures (think insects, termite colonies etc.) using whatever means available to them physically. While it might not seem like such a great achievement to many people it ensures the survival and growth of the colony. kind of the same reasons humans started building shelters once upon a time so long ago :)
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Anio has something there. Ants (why are we stuck on using ant comparisions? lol) do build complex colonies. But to us, they're insignificant. How would we identify
alien life if it is so advanced that we could not recognize it? "Perhaps a conglomeration of energy that can move about space without a second though. Perhaps something that lives in the dust cloud of comet."-Thanks JeremyG. Compare our own world and apply it to the universe.
Maybe this life that exists off of this planet sees us as ...(wait, I'm starting to repeat myself)...trailer trash of the universe and says "Now stay away from earth, you might catch a filthy disease"..
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The complexity of things are still limited by real world ecomorph issues.

Ants and other "super organisms" still are limited by their ecomorph. Even if they had intelligence, they would still be unable (as far as I can tell, obviously if we want to just throw up our arms and say "Well there could be really alien life forms out there that we just can't imagine" then we might as well stop now and assume that there are crystaline based life forms or whatever) to build machines with moving parts.

And intelligence is also something not likely to have eovlved. I like Ender's game as much as the next person but from a scientific point of view, giant insects aren't going to happen physically (And in Ender's game they still required a magic power of instant communication). Intelligence has to evolve one way or the other (unless you believe in creation at which point anything's possible and again the discussion ends). And in the cruel world of natural selection, it has to pay off pretty quickly. That's why brain size and complexity haven't come up in evolution -- it's always been a disadvantage for the most part.

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Speaking of giant insects ...

I used to love films and TV programs when I was a kid with gigantic scorpions, ants, crabs, monsters. Then I became a scientist and learnt about scaling factors, and pressure and materials. Simple matematics can prove that giant insects cannot exist in their basic states, as bones would be too weak, organs unable to function, heating / cooling systems inadequate, etc. I'm not saying it's impossible for giant insects to evolve, just that they would NOT be giant versions of current insects. Sad really!

As for insects making machinery with moving parts, I'm not sure. Physically it is possibly that a few insects together could fashion a simple moving tool, but would they ever be able to make that leap in intelligence? Don't know.

paul.
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The universe is big right? With infinite numbers of possibilities. The concept of infinity is difficult to imagine. With an infinite universe there is an infinite amount of planets that can exist right...so there could be a planet where dogs have evolved to be the dominant species or cats or anything. I just hope that there is one planet out there for everyone, for me personally it would be a planet with nothing but supermodels and the funny thing is no one can rule it out because if the universe is infinite than in essence it is a possibility...just a thought
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You know find strange about this thread it is not physically possible to go to the next star over.

Relativity has been tested and it is real and I do not believe than Space can be folded or there in
anyway that Faster than Light speed is possible.

So how does ET visit even if they are all over the place.

If I am wrong and ET does visit, why does he not come by and say Hello ?

What am I going to hear next ET a totally Alien has heard of the prime directive and
us stupid Humans have to be protected until we evolve ?

Please if we are all that Primitive maybe ET will see us as Cattle.

I went to a lecture once in which the question was can live evolve with something other than Carbon.
It turns out than Carbon is the only element that is reactive enough and common enough to create life.
In theory Silicon would work but it takes much more energy to create the complex chemicals needed.
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OOPS
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"With an infinite universe there is an infinite amount of planets that can exist right"

It's not true. We live in a finite universe. Very, very mind boggling big, but finite.

http://spaceplace.jpl.nasa.gov/phonedrmarc/dec2002.html This is aimed for kids, but it's NASA site.

Anyways, I feel that other aliens is possible. Only thing I question is aliens being on earth.