CTD on modded race with no homeworld

You must have a homeworld or the game will will crash, there are two presets already available, Abaddon which is a burned out planet and Dust a gas giant. 

I noticed, which is why I posted. The point of this thread is more of a feature request, to allow further modability. If the game didn't crash if a playable civ has no homeworld, we'd be able to do more interesting things.


I know there are presets with "dead" planets, but they actually do have habitable (Class 2) planets. This is not desirable for my idea, though. I'm trying to mod in a civ with no planets, using only starbases and shipyards.

I seriously doubt that will work, because where is your research and production coming from? 

No crash log or dump is generated (is that because we're out of Beta? Is there a way for me to force it to generate those?). 

Supposedly they were left in the release as v1.01 patch notes:
"Removed some release level debug"

Source - http://steamcommunity.com/app/226860/discussions/1/620713633854416360/

There are variables in Prefs.ini, but I am not sure what values besides "Default" it accepts. 

[edit] You may also want to check the Tutorial and the first level of the Campaign regarding Homeless factions, as the Terrans start as one.

On your side note: By orphan shipyards, do you mean that the turn button becomes unavailable? I feel it is more of a bad design decision as I sometimes want to have my Shipyards stay orphans. 

From other starbases.



Ooh, thanks for the idea on checking the Tutorial! And yeah, I'm talking about the "Turn" button becoming unavailable.

Just found out, you have to shutdown shipyards that you want to stay as orphaned. Then the turn button becomes available. 

The problem is that this forces the shipyard to not produce anything. Since my mod gives production to shipyards regardless of Sponsor Planets, they should be able to keep on churning out ships even while orphaned.

One suggestion for you that I picked up while watching the replay of Derek Paxtons stream from yesterday Download/copy the custom race of Ghosts of the Abbaddon which I think someone above mentioned but when you've downloaded them make a copy of them in the faction screen alter them to what you want and change their name before you save/carry on so your changes don't overwrite the original race you downloaded the result of this when you start the game will give you a crap class 2 homeworld that you wont want to keep long term and instead of a survey ship,a scout and a colony ship, all you will have is 3 colony ships from which you search out a new homeworld and you can change your empires homeworld capital once you have a new planet!

 

As for the shipyards being orphaned I don't know how to mod this but the production goes like this - planets sponsor shipyards and the shipyards build the ships without sponsors the shipyards have no production and cant produce ships without it also and this what irks me on the change from GC2 you have to either be building a ship or have the yard shutdown for the turn system to let you click the turn button.

hope this helps!

Echillion, as I said, I know of the "dead" preset. The civ I'm trying to build however is supposed to be a "pure spacefarer" civ. Absolutely NO planets. Shipyards can get production from other sources (in my project, starbases, which I managed to get working), even without a planet to support them, but the game stops you from going forward because the shipyard is "orphaned".

Ah I see may I suggest you pm/msg Derek Paxton as I think only he or Paul will be able to answer you whether it can be done or not? good luck

Pirates are a faction that are able to build ships with orphaned shipyards, but only because they don't need a turn button. So AIs can ignore such restrictions. So this is possible when AI is controlling the faction. I doubt you are making an AI faction.

Yeah, the Turn button is currently my main problem, followed closely by how hard it is to make a civ homeless. Even if I get an event to delete their starting planet (and they have <RequiresHomeworld>false</RequiresHomeworld>), the game simply crashes.