Restore default buttons in a skin

just curious, what is the name of the skin?

I'm not on that computer now, but it's an old "Luna" skin. I used it years ago on Vista. "Element," I think is the name. I can verify tonight if it matters exactly.

no, I guess it really doesn't matter. I just wanted to see if there was anything that I could suggest or direct you to someone else. It's a really old skin made for XP.

Element Default is the name of the skin. I'm not finding it here anymore.

 

I appreciate the reply. I hope you didn't read the wrong tone in that. I'm not sure of it's exact age, but it seems to me it would have been made for Vista, not XP, since it's an "XP look-alike."

Would this be worth posting (or moving to prevent a second thread) to the WindowBlinds forum? I didn't think so initially, but the lack of response here has me asking now.

 

I'm guessing it can't be done, which I find weird. After all of this time, this seems to be almost a necessity. I'm taking this to tacitly mean that if one finds an error with something after they save their work on a skin and they like to go back and start from scratch, they can't?

Quote 1: A skin is made using skinstudio. You make the graphics and place them in the correct places in SKS. (skinstudio). If you remove the images placed when makin a new skin or from an older one it just won't pick up any images from anywhere. So you would have no buttons showing.

Quote 2: No not correct. As stated above. anything can be changed in a WB. Thing is you would need the images you want and using SKS replace what was in there. Saying that one would need to know what sizes are required for the images you wanted to replace. Of course you would need to make new images.

To sum it up. You can remove the button images using SKS but it just won't incorporate windows images or any other images.

https://www.wincustomize.com/explore/windowblinds/4778/

 

Is that the skin?

 

 

Yep... That's not how it's named once installed, which is what I was searching by before.

What you're describing here is pretty much restating what I described happened when deleting the buttons, correct? ...just to make sure I'm not misunderstanding something.

Not to get nit-picky, but this sounds like a differing opinion on what "start from scratch" means. If I'm understanding you, you're saying "Yes, you can start from scratch, but you have create the corresponding files needed to recreate Window's default buttons" ...which to me, isn't starting from scratch. 

edit: Here's where I was having a hard time wrapping my head around things... The only skinning experience I've ever had was a browser that left whatever you didn't skin alone and only applied the "skin" to items you changed. So, it was essentially like laying a cover over the browser with holes cut out where you wanted to see the default icons. That's the mentality with which I've been looking at this.

To anyone running across this thread with a question similar to mine, maybe this will help... and I'm sure the more knowledgeable around here will tweak what I'm saying where I'm off a little bit.

The way WindowBlinds includes the Windows Classic and Windows Aero "skins," I assumed it worked more like the browser skins I mentioned above, but it doesn't. WindowBlinds skins everything whether you change it or not. If you open a new skin in SkinStudio and change the vertical alignment of one button by increasing it's value from "0" to "1," WindowBlinds is still applying a skin to everything else in Windows. I use Thunderbird, so I experience the titlebar issue that has been reported. I made a test skin just changing that single number like I described, applied the skin, and had the title bar issue in Thunderbird... because everything was being skinned, not just the item I changed in SkinStudio.

So like I said, it was the whole "how WindowBlinds applies skins" things that was confusing me overall, I think. Although, it still seems silly to me to not be able to go back to the default set of images hat SkinStudio opens with with a click of a button as opposed to having to recreate them on your own.

So for me to correct the button problem I'm experiencing with that skin, it probably has nothing to do with the look of the buttons, but a difference between the active areas of the buttons as created in an older version of SkinStudio versus where that active area needs to be for Windows 7. Am I on the right track? That is what I'd have to fix because if I just didn't like the look of the old XP buttons, I'd have to manually create 7's buttons to replace them and fidget around with the widths and heights, etc. to get them to look as they should because only tossing my images over the "XP-like" ones would result in distorted images until I made some adjustments?

 

Please let me know if my thinking is entirely off track here. I really appreciate everyone responding as I'd never been able to figure out all of this without your help. I've quit using that skin for the time being because of that issue, but if I'm understanding things correctly, maybe I'll try to fix the button issue myself now that you all have helped me. (In reality, I have way too much work to do and will never get a chance, but I need that carrot dangling on the rope in front of me to prevent depression and thoughts of suicide. )

Ok, thanks 

Sorry, Mr. H. I was only expressing how I hate Luna.  

I didn't mean for that to illicit an apology, so I apologize.

 

For a guy that doesn't like black skins or really bright neon skins, there's not much middle ground. And as much as I remember being excited for Vista's transparency, even once I "upgraded," I still sometimes missed the solid, bold blue of XP. 

You have mouthful of .....................anyway,read and play around with Skinstudio would help yourself more,here is the tutorial: http://goo.gl/DyWwqQ

I had actually downloaded that before posting. I thought I went through everything in it, but admittedly, was in sort of a hurry, too, due to not having the greatest of time to devote to this. Did I miss the answer to my question in there?

There's quite a bit of difference between the way a browser skins that application and the way that the OS attempts to skin everything.

I'm not sure you would be able to locate the original OS buttons in question. Skinstudio comes with a default skin in place, which is not the original Luna skin, ergo you'd have to change the graphic yourself or import another similar graphic from another blind.

The active area of the button should be the same as the presentation/size so why you're experiencing this condition, well, I don't know.

here's a couple of carbon type windowblinds for your consideration, they are both made for vista;

https://www.wincustomize.com/explore/windowblinds/6822/

https://www.wincustomize.com/explore/windowblinds/6828/

There's also a carbon fiber texture in windowblinds that looks nice. Anyhow, good luck.

If you are looking for aero type buttons, you could take the images from Diamond. There's nothing closer, really.

There you go, great fix as these buttons should get close to what you want. Just save those images to a file. Open the WB in SKS and replace the buttons you don't like or want with the Diamond buttons.

I assume you are talking about the close-min-max buttons. You can find them here in SKS

Edit Titlebars and Windowframes/Edit per pixel buttons ----- If you want to adjust the location just click on position in the window and change the numbers. The easiest thing to do it start with the Close button. Set the Close Button(single) to the same settings are the Close button. When you adjust the Max button set the Restore button to the same numbers.