[DLC Suggestion] Expanded Magic

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This may go beyond the scope of what qualifies as DLC and into the realm of expansion, but in looking at ways to tweak the game, an expanded magic system would be great. More and more interesting spells, spell combos, and another magic-using hero-class or two would be great. I personally would love to see the current mage class split into evoker and summoner and then another support or close-range type mage added.

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Reply #1 from Elemental Forums Top

Exactly what did you have in mind? What specific spells? Why create a magic-using class, when there are no classes; and any ruler or champion can be a magic-user with its own set of strengths and limitations?

Reply #2 from Elemental Forums Top

Maybe something like Wild Magic. Strong but with a chance to back fire. For instance, with the Wild Magic buff you can cast any spell for free but each cast has a 20% chance to backfire and do damage based to the caster or an appropriate incorrect target. This could also spawn the creation of a Monster unit with the ability of Unstable Magic Field. Where there is a 50% chance of causing the backfire effect without the benefit of free spell casting. 

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 I personally would love to see the current mage class split into evoker and summoner and then another support or close-range type mage added.

There's an app for that!

Reply #4 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting davrovana, reply 3


quoting post
 I personally would love to see the current mage class split into evoker and summoner and then another support or close-range type mage added.



There's an app for that!

 

This game really could use more spells and Demons and Wizards definitely fills the need:  it introduces two whole new schools of magic and creates a summoning pool that makes being a summoner interesting to play, and gives a regular mage better options as well.  

Another problem with magic currently is the lame "one time" use spells.  Only one hero or sov can have tireless march?!?  Only one can be annointed by fire?  And the vanilla summoning system is awful!

Couldn't there be a trait that makes it possible to cast such spells multiple times?  And if you have the trait you could still increase the second and tertiary casting cost/upkeep of the spell if you were concerned about spell spamming.

The DLC spells could all be unlocked by quests, giving additional material for the game, as well.

Good idea! 

 

Reply #5 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting NaytchSG, reply 4

Another problem with magic currently is the lame "one time" use spells.  Only one hero or sov can have tireless march?!?  Only one can be annointed by fire?  And the vanilla summoning system is awful!
 

In the Legendary Heroes Beta, it used to be that way. It made it possible to create stacks with a 13 move. One stack of doom could win the game in one turn.

So I would say, the grass looks greener from the other side, but that specific spell is better as-is.

Reply #6 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting davrovana, reply 5


Quoting NaytchSG, reply 4
Another problem with magic currently is the lame "one time" use spells.  Only one hero or sov can have tireless march?!?  Only one can be annointed by fire?  And the vanilla summoning system is awful!
 

In the Legendary Heroes Beta, it used to be that way. It made it possible to create stacks with a 13 move. One stack of doom could win the game in one turn.

So I would say, the grass looks greener from the other side, but that specific spell is better as-is.

 

Maybe, but that sounds like poor implementation.  All they had to do was make it non-additive so multiple heroes didn't stack movement bonuses. :annoyed:   Or change the spell to "forced march" and give all units in the army -4 initiative in any battles they fight.  }:)

 

p.s any modders { :|  looks up at davrovana} are welcome to use that idea. 

Reply #7 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting NaytchSG, reply 6


Maybe, but that sounds like poor implementation.  All they had to do was make it non-additive so multiple heroes didn't stack movement bonuses.   Or change the spell to "forced march" and give all units in the army -4 initiative in any battles they fight. 

Hmm. Personally I like the spell as-is, but the -initiative to army could make an interesting alternative.