MarvinKosh

Join Date 08/2005

+87

Logitech grind my gears

with their Zone Touch T-400 mouse

I'm writing this from the perspective of a frustrated PC gamer, so that's why I picked that category.

So anyway, Logitech has graced us with a cute mouse with a touch pad instead of a mouse wheel.

Seems to work fine, right up until you try to select a particular tool in Minecraft. The limitations of this device and the poor configurability are very clear there, as you frantically attempt to scroll to your sword and take out that creeper who's just spotted you. Time to run like a little girl.

I did contact Logitech customer support and although they were very nice, their response boiled down to 'lol buy a real gaming mouse.'

Yeah. Been there, done that already. I have a museum full of mice with scroll wheels that have stopped working properly, resulting in the same 'RUN, RUN, RUUUUN' scenario as detailed above.

What I want to know is, how long do hardware companies keep expecting us to buy their overpriced rubbish that stops working properly? I thought the idea behind the T-400 was pretty sound, you eliminate moving parts and increase the lifetime of the product. Turns out it's just another gimmick, folks. Features, but no support.

Now okay, the above you can say is hyperbole. Fine. But the middle mouse button (click the touch zone) of the T-400 will not work in older games - fact. Apparently the guys at Logitech failed to pick up on that glaring flaw during testing. Draw your own conclusions.

I'll be going back to the store where I bought this poor, misunderstood mouse and getting something more traditional. Right now.

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I hate touchpads with a fiery passion--not sure why anyone would want one on top of a mouse.

I've used Logitech mice exclusively for a decade and a half and the only failure I've ever had after I started paying more than $5 for them was an MX518 that the cat liked to knock off the desk and bat around while it dangled (wire connection got loose, as you might imagine). I use G500s at work and home currently.

I'm curious how you've managed to wear the wheels out first though. They use the same mechanical switches as the main buttons. The wheel itself is just an optical sensor with a springed peg to provide resistance, normally, so other than losing the resistance that's not really subject to wear.

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EvilMaxWar

Join Date 10/2007

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I have used a Logitech G4 for a long time and in retrospective it kinda sucked.

It never felt comfortable in my hand, and I was kind of clumsy with it. Also, I would always press the Sensitivity up button when trying to press the middle wheel. Part of it because the wheel was so damn stiff.

But about a year ago I found a yellowed Intellimouse in the garbage while dumpster diving. I tried it and, hell, it's so much nicer! Been using it since.

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ElanaAhova

Join Date 09/2008

+105

Been using logitech mouses for years. Cheap... LOL. Never had a problem with the wheel between the buttons. Perhaps you are too hard on your mouse? J/K. I'll check into intelligmouse. I also hate touch pads. My lap top has a touch pad, and the eraser head in the middle of the keyboard. Yikes. Always attach a mouse and real keyboard to laptop...

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MarvinKosh

Join Date 08/2005

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Quoting kryo,

reply 1

Well, before going out and buying that Logitech mouse (which thankfully has been replaced) I had a Microsoft wireless mouse, and the mouse wheel there has a sort of outer rubber ring around the inner plastic mouse wheel. Needless to say, the outer ring has become loose somehow and it's difficult to get a good scroll any more. Thanks for that, Microsoft.

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Yeah, that is a pretty unusual design. Normally it's a rubber coating so the worst you can do to it is wear through it down to the plastic, and that would take a lot of effort.

I've never cared for Microsoft peripherals. I bought one of their keyboards once and it lasted all of a few months... it was promptly replaced by another Logitech.

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not a laptop person, never got used to using touchpad.

currently using an oldish perfomance mx (batteries require charging very frequently..... but at least i just need to plug the wire in, instead of sticking the mouse on top of a charger like the revolution mx) and the solar k750. (must be a winter thing.... gets laggy some times as if it's run out of juice or someone else receiving my keystroke )

the thing i hate most about wireless peripherals. 1 receiver per item (unless you are using stuff from same brand that happens to be using a universal receiver). i suppose if you have one of them newer monitors with usb slots, you could shift some other bits around. (don't have one. don't really know)

i have plugged-in a xbox360 pad, very old cintiq pad (for writing the occasional chinese word as i don't know how to type and too lazy to learn.. sometimes better off google translate it), mouse/keyboard unified receiver, charging lead for the mouse. just as well i don't use other stuff.

logitech was good enough to send me a replacement revolution mx (twice) after the original had a broken button/not charging (or something).. the replacement didn't charge (hence twice).. the last one worked ok but eventually i got fed up sticking it on the stand... and it didn't have unifying receiver.

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ElanaAhova

Join Date 09/2008

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Quoting alaknebs,

reply 6

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not charging ... the last one worked ok but eventually i got fed up sticking it on the stand... and it didn't have unifying receiver.

Ah, yes, the question of unification. One would thing with the power of PCs available, all these peripherals would be have interchangeable access. Low IQ TV sets have universal remotes. Why can't PCs have better integrated ports into the PC?

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What really rubs me wrong way with Logitech is that they remove good products from their stock, replacing them with something... strange instead. And that they don't make fully assymetric mices for us lefties. Though I'm pretty fine with my G5.

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