Haha I thought so!

Me too. I mean, Webhallen is "just" a retailer that also builds computers. Bet everybody on CES that saw them went: "What is Webhallen?"

Biggest problem with the steambox imo, is the Linux. It prevents the majority of steam games to be played on the box... Kind of self defeats its own purpose.

You can be certain they're trying to get as many games as possible to work in linux. Otherwise their SteamOS will not become popular.

    The biggest problem for desktop PC gamers:

Since most will use these machines with a controller will mouse/keyboard UI's be an afterthought?

IF I'm not mistaken, idea of Steambox is to stream your Windows games from your stationary PC on Steambox, to bypass Linux incompatibility problems. For those who want to play in living room/laying on the bad with gabepad. Don't get usual complain on "uncomfortable seating position". Well, buy good chair and play in comfortobable position - seat back and relax, while playing with mouse and keyboard.

As for Linux - most of the studios I'm interested it are already porting their games there, so...

1. By people trying out the Steam controller it is supposed to be revolutionary and next step and it will only get better in time.

2. At the moment the number of SteamOS supported games is weaker then Xbox or PSX, but in time it will have a better selection. And we will need to see how this streaming will work. Number of good games on PC by far overshadows both Xbox and PS. 

nitrous will still be using opengl/dx/mantle/etc, no?

Yes, but a problem with the world is games break, and it will eventually happen. Not to mention some people pay for convience.

Pity because people especially Linux users will pay for old games.

Two things

1. It depends on people realizing the flexibility of computers over consoles.

2. Depends on how popular steam is, and how available they make games.

Am a fan of the mouse.

This is one irritating thing. Game companies won't sell their games on the computer, and game stores won't sell computer games.

More or less, but it is nice to pretend that someday someone will finally design games that will finally fully utilize the computer. Windows doesn't even do this. I do understand that you would have to have a smart game that would be able to identify the resources, or a flexible platform for many different kinds of hardware. One can dream right.

Sad to say, but people easily pay this for Playstation or Xbox systems already.

You can bypass this by utilizing the language instead of openGl.

I find that any meat that comes from Mcdonalds gives me a stomach ache.

Personally I dream of a world that everyone especially software vendors remember the flexibility of the computer, and decide that computers are superior to consoles.

What can you clarify? Anyone heard of Spore or the Matrix. I heard of others the problem is that the grafics are not as good on a console as a computer this doesn't discount what a programmer can do with the grafics he has.

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Quoting admiralWillyWilber, reply 40Am a fan of the mouse.

Me too! But not on a console. I'm pretty sure that if you want to play games with a keyboard and a mouse, you <i>definitely</i> shouldn't buy a SteamBox. You don't need to buy one, because you're sitting the equivalent right now.[/quote]

Agree I would probaqbly check out a steam operating system though this would at least give me an excuse to go to Linux. I'm really irritated with Bill gates turning computers into tablets.

I question the sanity of hardware vendors that would "assume" Valve will get a release date and stick it before even giving one when they can't even do that for software.  Episode 3 should have been a gigantic "don't stockpile stuff yet" warning sign.

IMO every competition is good for the consumer. Steam brings competition both in terms of hardware and OS and both are very welcome. If Steam box will let me use it as a regular PC, I might even go for it...