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Reply #5 Top

So, when it clears the Wildland, does it clear the tiles you created? Also, is it possible to Accidentally destroy a city or an outpost with this spell?

Reply #6 Top

Quoting parrottmath, reply 5

So, when it clears the Wildland, does it clear the tiles you created? Also, is it possible to Accidentally destroy a city or an outpost with this spell?

 

No, it doesn't clear the created tiles, see e.g. Delin screenshot #4 (Technically though, you only need 1 extra tile, the one under your hero).

 

As to the outpost/city, you need to be on neutral/friendly EMPTY ground. Empty prevents the destruction of outposts/cities/chests/monsters/forests/etc.

 

 

 

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Reply #7 Top

Did you try

  1. Making the AoE just 1 tile
  2. Casting on your hero right before they attack the wandering Elemental (rather than pre-casting it into the area you expect it to wander)? (or do the Elemental lords end up attacking you instead?)

That might mitigate concerns with tile destruction.

Reply #9 Top

Quoting Primal_Savage, reply 8

Making it a 1-tile AoE would actually destroy more tiles. It should be noted that I pre-cast because I didn't want to wait for the Elemental Lords to wander outside of their Wildland on their own, so I baited them. But you don't need to pre-cast, you just need to cast on an tile adjacent to an Elemental Lord, then move on that tile and attack the Elemental Lord. As I said, it's basically one tile that you will lose and I think that tile can be turned back into a normal tile by an outpost/city.


As to the second point, I've mostly attack the Elemental Lords myself in the testing, I don't remember the Elemental Lords attacking me (Because when they did, it was usually at the wrong time and I would use cautious to exit the fight and move them closer to my trap). That being said, casting on yourself (The few ways I tried, kills you). The spells that served as an inspiration for this are Curgen's Volcano (Hence the destruction effect) and Salt the Earth.

I see; what I meant by AoE 1 = 1 tile, with no surrounding tiles (i.e. what it apparently already does.)  I was mislead by your previous comment, and thought that it had a radius of 1:

Quoting Primal_Savage, reply 1
I could not change the tile where Vetrar is (Spell limitations) but I changed every tile around him to make sure -I- would be on a Northern Wastes tile when I initiate the fight.

...and you might want to explicitly point out in the first post that you can't cast it on a tile your unit occupies or it will kill them.
 
Interesting that it kills you - does Salt the Earth kill units in the affected tile? (I've never cast it).  Seems like it would be unintentionally overpowered if so.  Also - because of this side effect - you probably want to set the AI probability really low so it doesn't instakill you with it (though I've never seen the AI cast terraforming spells, so not sure if it's something to worry about.)  
 
Possible idea for future mod: if you can find some way to make the "added" tiles convert when the "main" wildland does, this could potentially be used to allow wildlands to grow, either over time or in response to some event.
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Reply #12 Top


Kinda sad that you had to design, code and make this to cover this bug from the base game.

Reply #14 Top

This mod has been added to the Regularly Updated List of Mods for E:LH

:thumbsup:

Reply #16 Top

Well at least they have an alternative until you figure out what happened here.

Reply #18 Top

Well in the near future, I see this in the changelog

* Fixed an issue where wildland bosses would leave their wildland area and attack cities (causing the area to not be able to be defeated as well as destroying early empires)

Waiting to see how they did this.

Reply #20 Top

Quoting parrottmath, reply 18

Well in the near future, I see this in the changelog

* Fixed an issue where wildland bosses would leave their wildland area and attack cities (causing the area to not be able to be defeated as well as destroying early empires)

Waiting to see how they did this.

 

I will fire up FE:LH again in 1.5 :)