Experience split with heroes

Are there any plans to remove experience split from 2+ champions in a stack?  I've read up on this a bit and it seems like trained units were buffed up and heroes dumbed down.  Is this something that can be modded in?  I wouldn't mind playing around in the XML for this if it isn't terribly complicated.

I've had heroes one shotted and they don't seem to be terribly overpowered compared to stronger trained units - one of my favorite things in MoM was to run around with a fighter/caster combo along with my standard units.

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Reply #1 Top

Very easy fix, just add the line below to each champion's xml. I did this tonight to CoS and I'm really happy with the change. I also added 150% needed fame to help balance out the gain. I love the idea of different classes and builds together in tactical battles.

<DividesBattleExp>0</DividesBattleExp>

Reply #2 Top

Thanks! I will be changing the modded exp, Most games give you plus experience based on your party!

Reply #3 Top

FANTASTIC!!  Thanks for the quick reply!

 

Good idea with the fame addition as well; can help balance things.

Reply #4 Top

Ok, tried looking for it but wasn't able to find the file(s) - can you please let me know where to look?

Reply #5 Top

parrotmath posted a quick mod for this. Download his file, and that line is added to all champs. 

Reply #7 Top

You can find the link in his first reply here (reply #2 in the thread):

https://forums.elementalgame.com/445179

Or you can download it directly here:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/75549875/Fallen%20Enchantress/LH%20Mods/BURRESS/championNOXPDIVIDEv1_1.xml

Reply #8 Top

Yeah I don't have it on the other forum page, because I would have to keep it up to date, and that might turn out to be tedious. I think I might produce another mod that will lessen the burden of the XP split. Namely, it will give a bonus to XP of 50%, so flying solo you get 150% of the XP, but with 2 people you would get 100% of the XP, with 3 you would get the 83.3% XP each, with 4 champions you would get 75% XP each.

So the XP percentage scale would be

Percentage ----------------- Ratio

Current Scale

150% ------------------------ 1 / 1 (150 / 150)

100% ------------------------ 2 / 3  (100 / 150)

83 1/3% --------------------- 5 / 9 

75% -------------------------- 1 / 2

...

While the original XP percentage scale is

Percentage -------- Ratio

 

100% ------------------------ 1 / 1 (100 / 100)

50%  ------------------------- 1 / 2 (50 / 100)

33 1/3% --------------------- 1 / 3

25% ------------------------- 1 / 4

...

Even a modest increase of 25% would provide an XP scale of

125%  ------------------------ 1 / 1 (125 / 125)

75% -------------------------- 3 / 5 (75 / 125)

58 1/3 % -------------------- 7 / 15

50% ------------------------- 2 / 5

...

All of these scales are possible within the game mechanics currently. These will lessen the blow of the XP split and leave it in the game.

Reply #9 Top

I'm really hating my heroes since they steal my exp or sit around generating peace to combat unrest, and I feel pressured to get a troop production line going sooner than I'd like in order to give them a true purpose. It really seems counter-intuitive to the game title and I wish there was an in game  toggle much like what you outlined Parrotmath. Please make it so, and if possible in a user friendly format?

When I follow that link to download the champ exp fix, I see: "This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated with it. The document tree is shown below" I've tried pasting the information into my unit or mod file, I can select all to copy but it will not paste. I have no idea how to use that link to access the file. Any suggestions?

 

 

     

Reply #12 Top

Stupid question: Where do you drop that naked XML file to make it work? Does it go in as a mod, or what?

Reply #13 Top

C:\Documents and Settings\(username)\My Documents\My Games\LegendaryHeroes\Mods

Reply #15 Top


It goes in as a mod directory, and you enable mods.

Reply #16 Top

Thanks for this. I'd started playing solo sovereign all the time, and it got a bit boring ;)

Reply #17 Top

Quoting parrottmath, reply 8

Yeah I don't have it on the other forum page, because I would have to keep it up to date, and that might turn out to be tedious. I think I might produce another mod that will lessen the burden of the XP split. Namely, it will give a bonus to XP of 50%, so flying solo you get 150% of the XP, but with 2 people you would get 100% of the XP, with 3 you would get the 83.3% XP each, with 4 champions you would get 75% XP each.

So the XP percentage scale would be

Percentage ----------------- Ratio

Current Scale

150% ------------------------ 1 / 1 (150 / 150)

100% ------------------------ 2 / 3  (100 / 150)

83 1/3% --------------------- 5 / 9 

75% -------------------------- 1 / 2

...

While the original XP percentage scale is

Percentage -------- Ratio

 

100% ------------------------ 1 / 1 (100 / 100)

50%  ------------------------- 1 / 2 (50 / 100)

33 1/3% --------------------- 1 / 3

25% ------------------------- 1 / 4

...

Even a modest increase of 25% would provide an XP scale of

125%  ------------------------ 1 / 1 (125 / 125)

75% -------------------------- 3 / 5 (75 / 125)

58 1/3 % -------------------- 7 / 15

50% ------------------------- 2 / 5

...

All of these scales are possible within the game mechanics currently. These will lessen the blow of the XP split and leave it in the game.

 

 Did you succeed?

Reply #18 Top

Yes, I've succeeded with the bonus. I'll have to update it for 1.2 since that came out recently.

Reply #20 Top

You have to create a selected bonus option that increases XP, then give that to EVERY champion ;) It is a tedious process.