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America Declined.

America Declined.

Edited 11/11/2012 for clarity and because I was really pissed off when I wrote this and it's just not very coherent.

“Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.”

~ Someone in the Czech Republic via a newspaper

 

I’m disappointed.

Yesterday the morning started out with such hope.  By the time I went to bed last night.  Crash and burn.

Ohio results weren’t in yet, but I could tell it was going to go for Obama.  Disgusted with half my fellow buckeyes, I went to bed.

Usually a night of rest makes things seem less grim, less hopeless in the morning.

Not so today.

It’s worse.

What I can’t wrap my head around?  How could white Americans vote for more debt?  Why do I differentiate between white and black?  Because I get racial pride.  I have black friends.  Even though Obama doesn’t have anything close to their background, their “black American” experience, he’s still “one of them.”  I think it’s retarded to vote for or against someone based on race.   Retarded when thought about logically.  But emotion, and racial pride, can blunt the senses.  And there is a simmering hostility in the black community.

The flavor of perceived oppression is often as bitter as the actual pill.

So I can understand the racial pride vote.  Or understand it as well as a white girl in the suburbs can :)   

So how could white, Latino, whatever vote for a man who has more debt than all other presidents combined?  Are they not paying attention?  And for the record, every single person I know who is on welfare, or gets SSRI, or some other gov. handout, voted BO.  Without exception.

The right to vote at the federal level for president isn’t a Constitutional right.  People getting checks from the government for doing nothing more than existing, shouldn’t get to vote imo.  That aside….

One of the reasons this election was so important is….Obamacare.  It is the cannon that will blast us over the fiscal cliff into oblivion and irrelevance.  Do not pass go.  Do not collect $200.

Can you say 50% income tax?

Don’t worry, you’ll have lots of practice.  It will be part of the common American experience in the not too distant future.

It is highly ironic that in my suburb, people voted for BO, and voted down the much needed school levy.  Meaning, they don’t want to pay more taxes.  hahahaha.  They elected the king of taxes!! 

Don't get me wrong.  Our current medical system is broken.  The cost of care is unrealistic.  There are things in Obamacare I support, but at the same time don't believe my family should be forced to pay for healthcare for grown-ass adults.  It's a quandry.

History shows, as a super-power declines, it is challenged by  other nations.  Usually war.  That’s what happens when the biggest kid on the block isn’t as strong anymore.  Others, who secretly resented their power all along, or simply want the resources that kid has, gang up to bring them down.  When that happens….if there is anything left of what once was America…I say we split it.  Liberals and government check collecting Dems on one side, the rest on the other.

The split is already here, but for the geography anyway.

So we split officially.  Obama-bots have their own place, one plagued with debt, taxes, and gov. dependency…and the rest of us?  Free to build the life we choose, live or die by our own ability and ambition, unlimited by gov. tax burdens. 

Our motto?

Live free or die.

Until then, I am an American.

But I have to wonder, will my grand-children be?

 

 

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Quoting lulapilgrim, reply 44
Turns out Planned Parenthood spent $15 million getting Obama re-elected.

Shocking.  Not!

Quoting Anthony, reply 46
I try not to get angry at Obama voters. For one thing, I have one or 2 in my family (gasp), and it plays into Obama's plans for me to become polarized and get angry. Obama would like nothing more than to put lots of daylight between us and them.

That divide is there.  I'm not going to pretend it's not.  Half of America is pissed off right now.

I'm especially pissed at people I know, WHO SHOULD KNOW BETTER.  Who spend hours on Facebook, but can't take the time to hunt down some facts.  They just spew the DNC talking points...and when pointed toward the truth, they change direction. 

On top of that, some of them spew things about racism .. that have no merit in fact, and shows their own narrow racist view of the world.

I shouldn't be surprised.  But I am when it comes from people I at one time believed were fairly smart.

It is THOSE people I'm cutting out of my life.

 

Quoting Daiwa, reply 42
I was just dumbfounded by the whole conversation. All I could say was OMG.

It's hard to believe in this day and age, people who claim to be so intelligent are so ignorant of anything that doesn't have to do with their own lives.

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Quoting Anthony, reply 49
Yeah, that's where I'm at too. Sometimes people need a problem to just bite them on the backside before they understand it.

It is almost worth the pain of the coming years just to watch them squirm.  But you know what?  Obama-bots will never accept responsibility for supporting him when things go bad.  They'll blame everyone and anything else but themselves and their self made Messiah.

He thought he inherited a mess from Bush?  Well, he inherited a bigger mess from himself.  Wonder how he'll spin that.

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Quoting Daiwa, reply 25
Reply #25 Daiwa
I have thought back to those times (because I can hahaha) when there was just the news (3 channels) and there was no reason to doubt it. Movie stars acted with most of their clothes on and politicians actually politicked. People went on trying to improve their condition. Now it is war on all fronts no matter what the question or which ‘side’ you choose. Since most Americans fall in the middle of all the extremes (they must or there would only be one extreme of consequence), they are not even the issue. It has come down to one extreme vs. the other and mainstream America is just along for the bumpy ride. Everyone needs to start dumping their own idiots and then maybe we could get something constructive done.  Good article!

PS – sorry I got sidetracked cooking steaks on the grill and working on the yard and didn’t realize I was on the first page.

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Randomness:

1 in 5 Americans are now on Medicaid.  With this administration, that's a feature, not a bug.

 

The most transparent administration in history failed to disclose the Iranian drone attack, Petraeus' planned departure (they knew before the election), not to mention the truth about Benghazi.  Including the 'hot mic' disclosure about BO's plan to be 'more flexible' after his election, there is as clear a pattern of opacity and deceit with Obama as could ever be imagined.  Far worse than Nixon.  He's fundamentally dishonest, a dissembler, unworthy of the office we somehow managed to give him for another 4 years.

 

To paraphrase a certain someone, for the first time in my life I'm ashamed to be an American.

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Quoting Tova7, reply 52
He thought he inherited a mess from Bush? Well, he inherited a bigger mess from himself. Wonder how he'll spin that.
My guess is that the 'Bush' mess will become the 'Super Bush' mess and that even he underestimated the severity, but he has had 4 years now to 'learn' better or some other such crock of shit. And the sheep will keep on bleating.

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Quoting GirlFriendTess, reply 55
My guess is that the 'Bush' mess will become the 'Super Bush' mess

Goes without saying.  You'll never hear them say, "We had no idea how much worse our policies would make it."

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Quoting Tova7, reply 52
He thought he inherited a mess from Bush? Well, he inherited a bigger mess from himself. Wonder how he'll spin that.

He'll find a way with his lapdog media to pass the blame. Its time to realize that Americas best days are in the rear view mirror now that welfare recipients, children, and foreigners control the outcome of our elections.

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Quoting lulapilgrim, reply 58
Why Romney lost

While much of that might be true, In looking at the results, Mitt Romney caused at least 3 million Republicans who voted for Palin and McCain to sit the election out. Old man McCain actually motivated more Mormons to vote for him than Romney could... and Romney is a Mormon. So shame of those conservatives for voting for Obama by virtue of staying home.

While Romney wasn't the most charismatic guy, or even very well versed in matters of foriegn policy, he was a million times better than Obama. Obama makes Jimmy Carter seem competent and Richard Nixon seem like a pretty good guy. I would like to see 2 new laws in America. 1.) no person under the age of 21 can cast a ballot and 2). all persons receiving state assistance such as welfare and food stamps  barred from elections.

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Quoting GirlFriendTess, reply 53
PS – sorry I got sidetracked cooking steaks on the grill and working on the yard and didn’t realize I was on the first page.

S'all good Tess!  I too remember just 3 stations!  And watching Dr Who in black and white on a fuzzy "other" channel.  I can't remember, possibly PBS.

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Quoting Daiwa, reply 54
The most transparent administration in history failed to disclose the Iranian drone attack, Petraeus' planned departure (they knew before the election), not to mention the truth about Benghazi. Including the 'hot mic' disclosure about BO's plan to be 'more flexible' after his election, there is as clear a pattern of opacity and deceit with Obama as could ever be imagined. Far worse than Nixon. He's fundamentally dishonest, a dissembler, unworthy of the office we somehow managed to give him for another 4 years.

When Libya happened, my husband (who is circumspect and generally keeps his opinions to himself..drives me nuts!!  lol)  said, "A military officer, likely one of the generals will take the fall for this."

I think when all is said and done, we will see the Petraeus resignation as a preemptive strike to put a lid on the Libya debacle.

I'm almost AFRAID to learn the truth.  Afraid of what it will reveal about our country....about our politicians.

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Quoting Anthony, reply 59
While much of that might be true, In looking at the results, Mitt Romney caused at least 3 million Republicans who voted for Palin and McCain to sit the election out. Old man McCain actually motivated more Mormons to vote for him than Romney could... and Romney is a Mormon. So shame of those conservatives for voting for Obama by virtue of staying home.

Veteran's Day is here tomorrow. 

Every person who stayed home (because there is NEVER a perfect candidate) imo is not only taking voting for granted, they are at best indifferent to the sacrifice of soldiers past and present who died, were wounded, or just served to ensure they kept the right, and at worst, spitting on that service.

Grrrr.

Quoting GirlFriendTess, reply 55
My guess is that the 'Bush' mess will become the 'Super Bush' mess and that even he underestimated the severity, but he has had 4 years now to 'learn' better or some other such crock of shit. And the sheep will keep on bleating.

Yes.  Exactly.  It will be Bush's fault.  If he says it enough times, the historians will surely put it down as fact.

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Quoting Tova7, reply 61
I think when all is said and done, we will see the Petraeus resignation as a preemptive strike to put a lid on the Libya debacle.
Couldn't agree more. Petraeus will be Oliver North all over again and look how 'successful' he became after the Contra affair. But if the CIA boss is not involved at least neck deep in the crapola, then who is? If this resignation was because of extramarital affairs as stated, then there shouldn’t be any stonewalling on his part … but I don’t believe this for a second. I for one would find a way to get him into the ‘hot seat’ regardless of his unemployed status. Since when did retiring become an out for criminal activity particularly when it involves the death of Americans? Oh yea, in marches National security (wouldn't want any state secrets to get out) and the legal suppression of information that hasn’t already been destroyed or doctored begins.

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Quoting GirlFriendTess, reply 63
If this resignation was because of extramarital affairs as stated, then there shouldn’t be any stonewalling on his part …

Good point.  I haven't really thought about it like that.  But you're right.  Why not give a full disclosure if the resignation is about adultry and the Libya thing was all good.

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Quoting Tova7, reply 64
… and the Libya thing was all good.
There wasn't anything good about the Libya thing ... but I understand what you mean. The truth and nothing but the truth so help me... who? How long (ever) has it been since the truth and politics could be used in the same sentence. What recourse is there when presidents and underlings alike can stand there on national broadcasts and flat out lie and all the while everyone on both sides knows they are lying but somehow it is undignified to point it out, give me a break. Or worse to openly defy the constitution and proud to do so … Jumping Jahosafat … what other wonderments are going to be bestowed on us whether we want to play or not … by our betters.

Patriocracy Official Trailer   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3VZl5dxc1w

PS - this is just the Trailer and I recommend the movie, but I can remove it if you like

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"You have to be informed..."

~From the video

I'd add you have to WANT to be informed. 

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Quoting Tova7, reply 66
"You have to be informed..."

 

Do you trust the government with your computer? 

http://blog.heritage.org/2012/11/14/morning-bell-do-you-trust-the-government-with-your-computer/?roi=echo3-13797585575-10284451-4407bad4d632a242bdf4f4ee3ec46d85&utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=Morning%2BBell

 

 

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The election results make me ponder whether the Mayans were on to something.

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Quoting Daiwa, reply 68
The election results make me ponder whether the Mayans were on to something.

Great minds and all that!  My son and I talked about the Mayans today as a matter of fact...lol.  He's more optimistic...but he's 17, what does he know?  buwhahahaha

(well besides Dec 21st is the end?)

Lula,

Um, no.  lol  "He who can be trusted with a little, can be trusted with a lot.  He who can not be trusted with a little, can not be trusted with a lot."

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Just remember to get out and watch The Hobbit in the first week it's out.

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Quoting Jythier, reply 70
Just remember to get out and watch The Hobbit in the first week it's out.

Is the premier before or after December 21?

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December 14th. :D

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That's slicin' it a bit thin, Jyth. :grin:

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Yeah, I probably won't go.  Then again, the world probably won't end, and I'll see it on DVD.