Determining what to do with a terrorist religion

Well I think they should be left alone to poison the minds of THEIR own children. They should be allowed to scoff at the real world and badmouth everyone they dislike ... like everyone else. The Age of Aquarius is upon us and their gods will be replaced soon hopefully with something that actually makes sense. I enjoy interjecting astrology into the mix as it drives the pompous religious folk batty regardless of the fact that Christianity is ALL about it. As far as I can tell, they despise astronomy too so It seems that everything outside earth’s atmosphere are just  little lights their specific gods placed there for our amusement.

The monotheistic religions have almost had their allotted 2166 years to screw the world up. Jews were past the tipping point which is why their ruthless and beastlike god needed to be replaced. The Jews were at the peak of corruption so they had to go too. So the (NT) Jews manufactured a bastard and began a new replacement religion that would eventually be called Christianity. 

Anyway unless you want to include yourself in their world of abuse and self-destruction, they should be free to practice their pagan rites and become even dumber about the world they live in. Those still living in their religious caves will just become a non-entity as far as reality is concerned. Just look at the state they are currently in? They cannot be communicated with in modern terms because they don’t even know the right words with which to ask an intelligent question and they are completely immune to proof, logic and common sense. If that is the state of affairs in their professed utopia, I want no part of it.

Let's see the list of terrorist attacks of the past 200 years by Christians, based on Biblical directives, against non-Christians, then.  You make the claim it is one of the best examples, so shouldn't be too hard. 

Also, it's a false assumption that all Christians are proselytizers.  Most want to undermine nothing, impose nothing.

If the OT is not true, why do so many religions claim it as a scripture?

Why do many of those religions say it's corrupted in order to create a new religion based on a new document that they create, which changes everything, specifically when we have evidence that the OT has not, in fact, changed in any material way since the last known text, which was prior to the days of Jesus?

If they are going to replace the old with something different, why even bother to keep the OT involved?

Why does the Christian believe in both the accuracy and inspiration of both the OT and the NT, if God is a different person in each of them?  Why hold on to the OT at all?

Why is Israel the only people group in the history of the world to have gone so many centuries without a country and then have one again?

Why aren't Christians proselytizing when the Bible tells them they should?

If you need another demonstration as to your disconnect with reality, well this one is as good as any. You made this statement at 8:44:24

and then 0:8:26 later you made this statement: posted under "Freedom of religion” at 8:52:50 this morning: 

 “As for Old Testament law given to Jews, that's Old Testament law given to Israel - a country that existed then, that exists again, but they no longer have that law either.  Christians don't need to follow those laws for several reasons …"

And then you had the impudence to list your reasons. Liar Liar your pants on fire, I tried to tell you to always tell the truth and these kinds of things cannot happen.

 

I should add that those Christians who do proselytize, don't do so with weapons and threats of murder.  Not denying it happened in the past, but that's been long, long ago now.

 

That was picked up from the Islamic reign.  They invaded Spain, force-converted everyone, and then when the Catholic world got it back, they forced everyone to be Catholic, mostly to stop the Islamic practices and stamp out that faith from the land.  As you can see from the results of having everyone converted without an actual heart conversion, you get people in the church who screw things up and then you end up with changed doctrines and crusades and other things that don't fit with the Bible.

Are you for real? Christians haven't really been much of a problem in modern times. Check out how problematic Islam has been on the list and come back to tell us what you think. I challenge you to find a list with Christians committing this type of violence and terror. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#Attacks

ExpessoKid appears to be looking for an excuse to commit acts of terror - Christians oppression must be 'resisted violently' as he's said repeatedly.  If Christianity is blamed, most likely the President will apologize to ExpressoKid for causing ExpressoKid to do these things.

Now how you get from this question:

to this response:

is beyond me. Where has he stipulated violence repeatedly, surely not in this post?

You should learn to communicate because it is actually fun and potentially enlightening. Nobody has to look far if they have regressed to terrorism as an expression of their religious dogma … and terror doesn’t have to come calling with a bomb on its back. Just for S&Gs, did you know the word heretic comes from the Greeks: “The term heresy is from Greek αἵρεσις originally meant "choice", but also referred to that process whereby a young person would examine various philosophies to determine how to live one's life.”

The arrogance of clergy   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbxmLJ14mNA&feature=endscreen&NR=1

And orthodoxy means 'right opinion', yeah I know.

I don't think there are many who would not want to irradiate radical Islam (what the OP should be about) but there is a problem with that. No external religion or those without one can do anything to separate the good from the bad. That has to be an internal battle ... the only way. In our desire to allow people to worship as they please, we have opened the door of freedom to the ‘religious fundamentalists’ who always hide behind the true believers. Until the faithful do something to clean their own house, this is the way it is going to continue, unrelentingly. That is why Christians are speaking out against unfounded fairy tales being passed off as gospel. They are speaking out about their frustration of having to lie to their own children about evolution, Noah’s Ark and the creation Myth. There is still hope for the hardliners yet, not much, but hope nonetheless. Same for the thousands of Christian sects that each knows a better way, the only right way. With myriads of differing views, practices and beliefs, I have to chuckle when they say they are like one, like one what? Until the religious community takes it upon itself to filter out the nonsense, things will continue unabated and it will be business as usual. Just with fewer and fewer people willing to swallow the whole enchilada without an explanation.

Haha, that's because they took over everything already. Imagine a Muslim nation taking over america and telling your teenage daughters they cant dress like whores and the boys cant get drunk and puke all over themselves. The white sheets and hoods would be pulled out so fast our head would spin.

 

Imagine that video happening to your country and the whole world labeling patriot freedom fighters as wacko christian extremists.

As to Christianity and its benign influence; 50 years ago America was the world’s leader in cutting edge science and thus we had a better economy and standards of living. Since that time mostly due to the resurgence of fundamental Christianity, we are now rated at 37th in the world and our standard of living has depreciated accordingly.

It isn’t the atheist demographic that has the highest divorce rates, the most chemical dependencies, the most domestic violence, the most criminal convictions or even the most abortions. The one thing we might have more of is diplomas or at least meaningful diplomas. There is only one thing atheists agree on (the only thing uniformly held among us), everything else is dependent on the individual. We aren’t the ones wasting our natural resources like there is no tomorrow because we are the only ones that believe there will actually be a tomorrow. If you feel that these are the last days (as believed for thousands of years now) then you have no vested interests in preparing for the future. The only way these people can have their freedom of religion is to allow others their freedom from religious oppression and that isn't going to happen.

Don't Blame the Atheists   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0Ca88xNw_w&feature=context-gfa

Sorry.  That's just stunningly stupid.

You get used to it.

Sort of like your informative explanation. I have thick skin but I have an overactive BS detector.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/a0923110.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/dec/07/world-education-rankings-maths-science-reading

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PS - Should have known, Won't happen again.

Allow me to explain, then:

That's gobsmackingly, stupendously, unfathomably stupid.

I will make a suggestion, though:  Study the work of John Venn.  Might help.

Religious Terrorism is Terrorism by those whose motivations and aims have a predominant religious character or influence which is intended to force changes in the secular state. How much is too much terror for the self-righteous amongst us? How can less acute terrorism be better than a shit load of it from any moralistic view? Christianity qualifies without a question from its inception to the present and into the future until the infringed upon people put a stop to it. There is no good face you can put on the bigotry of forcing the common man to believe what you would have them believe just because of your religious dogma. Nobody is trying to make people become homosexuals, but there are plenty of kind religious people trying to make it illegal to be a homosexual based on nothing but their own internal (unfounded in reality) dogma.

Christian terrorism   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

I will try this later ... just couldn't seem to word this one right?

 

 

ExpressoKid,

I just found and read your article and will read the comments as time allows.

You write: Christianity is one of the best examples of a terrorist religion.

 I'll let Pope Benedict XVI address that ridiculous claim.

http://visnews-en.blogspot.com/2012/12/the-pope-monotheism-does-not-generate.html

and particularly the part that reads:

"Nowadays, this supernatural sense of the faith of believers leads to a vigorous reaction against the prejudice according to which religions, and in particular monotheistic religions, are intrinsically predisposed to violence, especially on the pretext that they lay claim to a universal truth. Some maintain that only a 'polytheism of values' would guarantee  tolerance and civil peace by conforming to the spirit of a pluralistic democratic society. ... On the one hand, it is important to remember that faith in one God, the Creator of heaven and earth, meets the rational demands of metaphysical reflection, which is not weakened, but rather strengthened and deepened by the Revelation of the mystery of the Triune God. On the other hand, it is necessary to emphasise the form that the definitive Revelation of the mystery of the Triune God takes in the life and death of Jesus Christ, led unto the cross like 'a lamb that is led to the slaughter'. The Lord offers a radical refusal of any form of hate or violence in favour of the absolute primacy of agape. While throughout history there have been or indeed there are forms of violence carried out in the name of God, these cannot be attributed to monotheism, but rather to historical causes, and in particular to human error. It is, rather, an oblivion to God that immerses human society in a form of relativism, which ineluctably generates violence. Once the possibility of referring to a form of objective truth is negated to all, dialogue becomes impossible and violence, whether declared or concealed, becomes the rule governing human relations. Without opening up to the transcendent, which enables us to find answers to our questions on the meaning of life and how to live in a moral fashion, man becomes incapable of acting with justice or committing himself to peace".

You write: Christianity is one of the best examples of a terrorist religion. It has an automatic justification allowing it to take away individual and cultural freedom and insert itself instead.

In reply 2, Daiwa asked for a list of Christian attacks in the last 200 years and you haven't replied.

Can you show us where, when, and how Christianity is a terrorist religion that has an automatic justification allowing it to take away individual and cultural freedom and insert itself instead?

 

"to take away individual and cultural freedom"....hmmmm....How about the individual freedom to be born? The womb is a very dangerous place to be nowadays and it isn't the Christian religion that's made it that way.

No sir. It's the State's civil religion of Secular and Atheistic Humanism that has to be taken into consideration here and their bloody practice of abortion on demand which is none other than state sanctioned medical terrorism against the innocent, defenseless child in the womb. State sanctioned medical terrorism has killed over 53 million babies and counting.

Christianity supports and upholds the culture of life, while the Secular and Atheist Humanism consider the bloody death practice of abortion a "cultural freedom".  In this one respect, the terrorist religion is Secular and Atheist Humanism.

Btw, it is not Christianity, but rather the Secular and Atheistic philosophy that gave us Nazism and Communism.   These systems are in opposition to Christianity and its traditional beliefs and practices, which hold that human freedom comes from ALMIGHTY GOD, not the State.

 

Lula I don't think ExpressoKid is respondind now, and I will agree he had both good and bad points, not my problem. Just thought I would save you some tribulation until we find out otherwise, just a thought.

PS - I sure wish you really wanted to discuss something, just about anything would do, but I think you are on a mission to destroy common sense and reason, go figure and that doesn't leave me with many options I am willing to take?