Vasari Titan unbeatable?

Oh, you brought a fleet against it? Yeah, bad idea. Nanoleech is the ability, and it basically life drains targets with no cap. More ships to drain? More power. Once the opposing fleet gets to a certain size the ship is literally unkillable so long as it can use that ability.

Pair it up with a mobile Orky and it's fun times.

The only frigates that can put out more damage than is drained are light carriers.  Don't bring HC's against them because those are longer meals, allowing it to munch on them longer.

Ah, makes sense.. I was playing around with the Advent first.. Getting my ass kicked by that single ship.

So what, outmanoeuvre it and keep hitting it with bombers, keeping it away from my fleet until such time as they can take it out?

Nanoleech indeed is very OP. Needs to be nerfed.

Light Carriers and capitals are your friends when fighting this.  Bomber spam will kill it.

I know about this but have not encountered it myself. As an Advent player, a simple solution would be to keep the Titan away from my ships either by kiting it, or ismply by pushing it away using Repusle while my bombers have at it.

But I'm thinking, could one or two Radiance Battleships using DA keep its antimatter empty so it can't use Nanoleech? You know, in case I don't have enough bombers or guardians on hand and need to move in with my fleet to destroy it.

Another way to defeat this monster is by sending in your own titan backed up with just a few high level capital ships. An Orkulus will also do fine against it, if you happen to have one ready. Draining its antimatter is also a good idea.

I reckon Nanoleech will get the nerf like malice did (stopping the old Holy Trinity) by just sticking a cap on the number of ships it can effect.

It can be beaten at the moment but taking out something which essentially gets stronger the more you throw at it takes some doing. The titan/high capital ship strategy works in theory but mother of god its difficult to actually field, especially when the A.I. just tend to feed it XP behind your back.

No.. I had a full fleet, maxed supply.. against this single enemy. It just kept on going and my caps were dying all over the place.. radiances included..

Appreciate the tips all! I accidentally wrote over my save game after starting a new game, so I can't test them out in practice.. but I'll give 'em a whirl next time!

Also; The Vasari Titan "The Maw" ability is hysterical!

Each frigate you have near it gives it extra hull every time it looses some.  It's like the hull version of the Iconus Guardian's shield effect...

The titan takes a massive blast and looses say 2,000 hull from your fleet guns and then instantly sucks 2000 hull back up from all the frigates near it with nanoleech.

The more frigates near it, the more damage it can take.

And by "near it", I mean pretty darn far away.  It's got almost the AoE of a Phase Blocker.

Yes well if you bring too many ships, the Titan will regenerate antimatter faster than the Radiances can burn it, which defeats the purpose.

I'd probably bring a small number of hard-hitting ships, bombers and destra crusaders, with my capital ships to deal with that Titan.

yeah...but they have missed a great opportunity there.  That ship should really make a "burp" sound when it finishes.

Destras aren't going to help you though.  You have to hit really hard to overcome the 20 HPS regenerated.  Remember that Destras may have more DPS than that, but they have to go through mitigation and armor first, meaning that the 20 HPS of Nano Leech is still far more than the 20 DPS or so of the Destras.

I may be wrong but I assumed that Destras, being heavy cruisers, deal extra damage on heavily armored targets such as capital ships, structures and titans?

Composite damage deals damage to titans at 70% of the listed damage.

Darn. Bombers it is then.

Haha, that would be awesome! Maybe it could have space ponies for dessert.

What people have already said will pretty much work. But I'll try to be more specific about its moves.

The Kultorask has three moves to worry about (the fourth just heals its own fleet):

• Nano Leech, the ability that heals the Kultorask (and restores antimatter), affects frigate and capital ships: "frigates" means any ship from the 'build frigate' and 'build cruiser' menus, except for corvettes.
• Dissever does damage to frigates, capital ships and corvettes frigates and capital ships - and it does more damage used in conjunction with Nano Leech (but only to cap ships and frigates). This means it has a good chance to kill corvettes instantly, but it still can't heal from them. Dissever is its level 6 ability, so no worries if it's below level 6.
• Finally, Gravity Pulse slows movement and attack speed for frigates only. It can also disable frigates which are affected by Nano Leech.

This means most conventional fleets are generally...bad ideas:

• No frigates at all - they will only ever help the Kultorask. That means no cruisers or corvettes either. Carriers could be considered, but should probably be ready to jump away if the Kultorask gets near them.
• Corvettes certainly wouldn't help the Kultorask, so they could be used in great number. If the Kultorask is above level 6, however, Dissever can kill them instantly, and they may just be a waste of resources in that case.
• Since Nano Leech+Dissever also affect capital ships, using a lot of caps is out too. Using one or two at a very high level would probably be beneficial, however.

The only three offensive unit types the Kultorask's abilities can't affect are tactical structures, titans, and starbases. So, to consider what to send against it:

• Both TEC titans should defeat a Kultorask easily.
• Given the Kultorask's relatively low dps (without abilities), an upgraded Orkulus should make short work of it.
• I'm not too sure about Advent titans, but a Transcencia should work too. Fill it with squadrons+upgrade its health. The Kultorask's only winning move would be to leave the grav well.
• If you're at your own planet, however many turrets and hangars you can get away with would be good too. Low dps, again, means the Kultorask can't destroy them too fast.

Personally, while it might currently be OP, I'd like to see every titan have something which scales with fleet size, enemy or ally, with no cap. It'd make them more than just big cap ships, so even in a 2000vs2000 game they're a central point of the battle. It'd also mean, as with the Kultorask, taking down each titan would be a less orthodox affair.

Actually, corvettes are included in the frigate target filter, and because they have so little health, it'll pop them within a single use of Nano Leech.

I think its their movement that can mess up the targeting of the Nanoleech. Not sure about that, so that might need to be tested.

@tobz1000 - Frigates, Cruisers, and Corvettes are counted as frigates in game code. Keep anything from the Frigate Factories away from the Titans.

My mistake - I assumed the unit type enums were mutually exclusive. I wonder why 'Corvette' is explicity specified in Dissever then?

Unknown. Maybe they thought about corvettes being different then changed their minds and didn't fix everything.

And no worries on the other issue. Most don't know that unless you look through the coding.

I'm knocking over titans left, right and center - it was just the one I couldn't figure what it was doing. When it's backed by an entire fleet it's also a bit difficult to get it alone.

Must use the TEC Rebel Titan. That thing is the anti Titan Titan.

The Kultorask can be defeat with Kortul capital with disruptive strike, remove antimatter and change cooldown rate, The Kultorask cant use nano leech so... GO BOOM!, toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo easy, very veryyy easy to kill.

Advent too, radiance remove antimatter over time, and with discord capital, lethargy ability change cooldown soo is very easyy kill too, i dont understand why all say "nano leech, The Kultorask is OP".... OP??, or the TEC is a GAY race, is the only race what cant defeat The Kultorask, dunov cant remove all antimater of The Kultorask, you need more dunovs or ragnarov to fight titan vs titan only

end, strategy my friend.... strategy, use the brain