U.S. Cops shooting people's dogs

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I'm surprised this hasn't already been brought up in this forum, but it seems in the U.S. that cops are posing a substantial danger to people's dogs.   Here is the latest incident just yesterday:

http://www.the33tv.com/videogallery/70167662/News/5/27/12-dog-shot

 

If you look at the video, the cop was well within the victim's private property.  Allegedly the cop visited the wrong address on a call for a robbery--which is only all the more enraging, because even if he was at the right address, he knew he was shooting the victim's dogs.  Robbers don't exactly just take along their dogs when they go burglarize a house.    At this point, the mere act of leaving your dogs outside in your own yard jeopardizes your dogs' safety.  Cops can enter your yard at any time and shoot them. 

Except--they aren't even safe INSIDE your own house, either.  SWAT teams are authorized to shoot your dogs INSIDE your own house under any circumstances, even if they, too, allegedly have the wrong address.   Here is very disturbing, graphic video of SWAT shooting a dog.  In this case, they did not have the address, but still you can see the dogs clearly did not pose a danger to them.  They had their suspect:  all they had to do was shut a door and they were done.   However, there are a number of other incidents in Atlanta, Georgia where not only have they shot dogs after "having the wrong address", but they shot dead an 92-year-old elderly woman in her own house.   No crime was done--she was just minding her own business in her own house.

 

http://gawker.com/5532226/swat-team-raids-house-shoots-dogs-over-small-amount-of-marijuana

http://fourthamendment.com/blog/index.php?blog=1&title=swat_team_in_atlanta_kills_92_year_old_w&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

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Reply #1 from Elemental Forums Top

COPS SHOOTING DOGS (also innocent people)

 

 

Neither is right but I know which one is more wrong.

Reply #2 from Elemental Forums Top

Yeah but look which forum you're on.

Elemental: Reforged
Reply #3 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Sure wished I could have carried a gun when I was a mailman.

Reply #4 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting WOM, reply 3
Sure wished I could have carried a gun when I was a mailman.

 

Our most of the mailman swats my "pretend like she is going to eat you" dog on the head with the mail. She then wags her tail and he pets her. The other mail lady is obviously scared to death of dogs (which doesn't help prevent bites) We keep the dogs out of the front yard for the most part, but in the past the big "mean" one was in the front on a line (my housemate did that when I wasn't home) Now she is only out front if my hubby is with her. The mailman was raised in Alaska with dog teams about, he almost has no common sense at all. Two different mailmen have told me that they have been bit more from little dogs than any big ones.

 

As for shooting dogs, I think you'll see that some of the articles are in Oregon, where I live. :(

 

Reply #5 from Sins Forums Top

Yeah--our mailman was bit by a farm dog and after having patted our friendly dog on the head every day for a year started throwing rocks and swinging his mailbag at him.

When my dog bit his mailbag he threatened to have him put down.  

At the same time, I confronted him about having seen him acting out with my dog several times before and he said, "that never happened.".  He wasn't aware on three occasions I saw him do it.

There are two basic kind of people:  the ones who believe we share the planet with animals and they have a right to a place and respect here and the ones who think any animal near them should lose it's liberty for disturbing their world.

Reply #6 from Elemental Forums Top


But isn't this America? I mean, sorry, isn't this fairly close to being the least of America's own Frankensteinian problems?

Reply #7 from Sins Forums Top

Americans mostly view animals as pets, in Elsass culture it's enough for you to be brutally beaten/killed we treat our dogs as members of the family, I think it's pretty similar in Nordic cultures.

But let's be real honest most people who carry guns in this country shouldn't be.

Reply #8 from Elemental Forums Top

I'm going to say no, it's not the least.   Dogs are our family.   When a cop can just jump your fence at any time and shoot your family on any pretext whatsoever, that's a problem.   As far as I'm concerned, invading your homes and shooting your family is an act of war, I don't care who it is.  I think that opinion is shared by a few Boston militia a couple hundred years ago.

Reply #9 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting tetleytea, reply 9
When a cop can just jump your fence at any time and shoot your family on any pretext whatsoever, that's a problem.  

That's exactly my point. In America, the only first-world country which still executes its own citizens (less than 4 other countries have a higher rate of capital punishment), its civilian population would much rather enjoy the personal liberties of instantaneous gratification in the form, for example, of ubiquitous self-armament, paired with a radical mistrust of any form of governmental control, including control of security through professional police.

Is it really surprising that America leads the post-industrial world in handgun deaths and murder -- and the police shoot your family on any pretext?!? (And I'm not talking about dogs, I'm talking about people.) In America, human life is considered a resource amongst others, to be traded and valued at market rates, the result of which is a gigantic socio-economic disparity which fuels insecurity, and more guns. Killing dogs seems like a tertiary by-product of the real glaring issues.

Reply #10 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Oh, goodie...we're getting 'political' ....time to relocate this from 'everything else' to 'Politics'....

or....

We can talk about Fifi and Rover.....

Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top

Dogs are property.  People are not.

I don't agree with cops shooting dogs for no reason.  Cops do not have the right to shoot people at will, however, and probably also not dogs.  But people definitely not.  Every time a police officer fires his weapon, FIRES it, never mind where the bullet goes, there is an IA inquiry and he is questioned about everything that had to do with the shooting, in order to get to the facts of the case, and then is brought before a shooting board which decides whether it was a good shoot, and if not, how bad the shoot was, in the form of what penalty the officer should face for the bad shoot, from a reprimand up to facing criminal charges.  Also, the policeman is taken off the street until all this is settled.