Sounds like someone is mad because he didn't manage to push forwards after killing the enemy Titan.

Agreed. I'm all for an ever increasing build time or a one or two level penalty, setting it back to level 1 is too big of a penalty.

Whats this all about? If you lose a titan in battle and rebuild it, does it start at the same XP level as the old one?  Is that how it works, or is he asking for this to happen?

I disagree suiciding your titan in multiplayer is very bad.

Death to a titan reduces the rebuilt titan's level by 2; Resurrection on the Progenitor can restore one lost level.  Such a change IMO would be the way to go as it punishes people for losing their titan, but gives them a chance to recover.

This is the first post I have run across where I wished I could -karma the poster, I dislike trolls.

It makes no sense it keeps it's exp though, in lategame you can just que up another titan and turtle until he's done. Sure it's a big loss when you lose your titan and you'll have to start with a level one titan. But the same can be said about your first capital ship. Or that FU starbase you lost might cause you the game as well. Let's have all startbases keep their add ons as well.

That sounds like a "just" type of situation to you?

I don't feel so at all. It's a VERY grave situation that must be countered immediately after you get the Titan back, or you probably loose.

The opponent's fleet that was able to kill your Titan will have proceeded to either take a lot of additional planets outside your defended area, or merrily started breaking open your figurative turtle shell and doing the obvious- taking your planets, trade routes and star bases down. This all while his own economy presumably runs mostly undisturbed because you're pretty much unable to get into a direct fleet fight, going into one outnumbered just costs you.

Those are not the same as a Titan loss. You can have more than one of these, and you can buy levels / upgrades back rapidly. They're not even intended to be as much of a fraction of anyone's fire power / tanking capability as a Titan is.

Someone said this better before, but I'll do it again in my words: A Titan needs to have levels to be effective. To get to that point, Titans need to kill ships. But exactly doing that is unrealistic if a level downgrade has just taken out something like 3/4 of a fleet's worth of power from the Titan and its supporting fleet. If the opponent isn't stupid, you'll be going back or be forced back into a fight much worse than the one you already lost, fairly inevitably loosing even worse. By consequence, the game would be decided after one Titan loss. If that was actually desired, formalizing a Titan loss as a toggleable game ending condition would be okay... but not as the slow but inevitable and boring defeat that "just happens".

I don't think an immediate loss is desired, and thus the levels should stay intact - again, I feel the cost and delay with rebuilding is a very severe penalty, either way.

Agreed.

And though I also agree that Losing a Titan indeed shall be punished, I think it is OK to keep the exp during the beta phase. After all it is not so easy to own a LV10 Titan, so it would be easier for the beta test t keep the exp.

I actually agree with the OP here...

Regardless of his motives I think he has a very valid point. The fact that he has backed it up with Gene Wilder makes it more concrete...

I see no reason as to why you should keep titan levels. Just as capital ships lose theirs when they pop you should lose it with titans. I see no reason why it should remain.

YES its a detrimental thing to your fleet and power overall but you should never give the opponent the opportunity to take it out in the first place. As soon as my capital ships get low enough on shields and whatnot I get them the hell out of there, sacrificing whatever fleet I need to. Experience is priceless whereas a few dozen ships can be replaced easily and quickly (given you are doing the economy correctly).

It makes no sense whatsoever to keep the titan level. Its just carebear mentality to keep it tbh.

The big divide between competitive and noncompetitive games folks. Against the AI (on hard and above gets resource cheats) yeah destroying its titan doesn't matter much, and they'll have wasted quite a bit on starbases on defenses so you at most get to take 1 or 2 planets before it comes back. In multiplayer, if you destroyed a titan you probably destroyed its fleet too, which gives you a free run to attack the enemies homeworld. If your titan comes back at the same level at least you have a chance to fight off the killing blow. If it comes back at level 1 the other players higher level titan will easily win every time.

Titans keeping their levels to some degree is a must if the game doesn't turn into "who loses their titan first loses". And ultimately I think that is worse for gameplay than having a powerful unit come back for little penalty.

just give titans a small debuff upon spawning that last 2-3 minutes that will make them weak or something.

I would be OK with Titan losing 2 levels after its destruction.