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It’s cheating

from JoeUser Forums

Wouldn’t you agree it’s cheating if the game doesn’t provide you with UI features that the AI has easy access to?

The AI can send 8 armies from distant cities to converge on a target city at the same turn.

I can’t easily do that, as a human. Therefore, I didn’t really lose. The AI cheated.

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Reply #26 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

Well look on the bright side, you don't have an animated paper clip popping up saying 'It looks like you're trying to set up a co-ordinated attack.' ;)

Reply #27 from Stardock Forums Top

So, you're saying we need to rally around... rally points?

RALLY! RALLY!

Seriously, I like the rally points in Gal Civ 2. Granted in that game you'd be pumping out a lot more units across a huge map. Elemental's map can be big, but in .77 regular units were hard to justify making. Maybe with more regular units in Beta 2 rally points will help us counter that "too-crafty-for-its-own-good" AI. But probably not.

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Reply #28 from JoeUser Forums Top

Quoting Lord, reply 27
So, you're saying we need to rally around... rally points?

RALLY! RALLY!
End of Lord's quote

RALLY!

Reply #29 from Elemental Forums Top

RALLY RALLY RALLY RALLY RALLY!  Oh no, I hope I haven't started something here... ;-) :P  Anyway I agree with us getting rally points, or at least be able to set up our stacks to use the AI rally point system for our armies.

Reply #30 from Stardock Forums Top

For the AI, we have rally points, army groups, all kinds of stuff.

And we create data objects for this.

It's just there is no UI for the human player to use it. I doubt it'll go into 1.0. But I imagine it'll be in some future update.

Reply #31 from Elemental Forums Top

I prefer the AI to cheat like this than to have other advantages like extra gold, more HP and such.  

Reply #33 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Frogboy, reply 30
It's just there is no UI for the human player to use it. I doubt it'll go into 1.0. But I imagine it'll be in some future update.
End of Frogboy's quote

I'm a fan of seeing it at some point.  I really think its a great feature for humans.  And I'm on board with the AI having it, ofc - you can flub the logic if you think its OP, though, by not having it send a unit or 2 that it wants to.  I really think this would be an EXCELLENT feature for us poor human folk.

Reply #34 from Elemental Forums Top

It remembers me that Supreme Commander featured a "coordinated attack"... that was never working. The idea was really good (each unit had an ETA on their head, and there was one on each waypoint of the paths the units used), I hope we could get something like that in FE.

Reply #35 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

You know what you could do for the human player is simply colour-code the movement path, each colour representing a different turn.  You'll know if units will arrive on the same turn because their paths will end with the same colour.

Reply #36 from Elemental Forums Top

Good idea. I think total war does this too.