Ugh, what is it about Star Wars “fans”

So I watched the most recent Star Wars: The Clone Wars (“Crisis on Naboo”) and really enjoyed it.  I enjoyed it enough that I decided to go over to TheForce.Net and see about conversing with others about it.  Oh god. What a mistake.

I didn’t even get to the posting part. I just read pages and pages of bitching about how terrible the episode was.  Then I read the same thing about every episode they listed on there. Just pages and pages of ranting and complaining about how terrible the episode is. And mind you, this is a “fan” site.

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From an article about Lucas retiring from making epic movies like Star Wars.

"News of Lucas's eventual departure from the world of blockbusters will surely hit "Star Wars" fanboys the hardest; there will be no more prequels or re-cuts of the series. To the director, though, this comes as a kind of relief.

"Why would I make any more when everybody yells at you all the time and says what a terrible person you are?""

From what I have seen, a good number of Star Wars fans are some of the most critical and negative I have experienced and I grew up among the Philadelphia sports fans.

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Meh, these days I tend to ignore anything Star Wars related that doesn't have Kyle "Awesome Beard" Katarn in it. I remember seeing a few episodes of the cartoon version of The Clone Wars, thought it was OK. Haven't seen the CGI one, but I did play the game based on it. It was sort of better than The Force Unleashed in regards to how a lightsaber is supposed to work, but the padwan Anakin had grated my cheese whenever she called him "Sky guy". If that happens trought the entire series, I can understand the hate.

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I thought I saw a quote in a recent Time magazine from George Lucas that went something like (paraphrasing), "Why would I make any more Star Wars movies if all I get is people saying, 'You suck' and other negative comments?"

 

*Edit* Whoops, someone already posted it. Anyways, it's a sad day.

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Which is why I ignore the "fans" of Star Wars and just enjoy it for myself. Is Star Wars sometimes cheesy and sometimes has things go left field? Yes. Do other Sci-Fi series do the same thing? Yes. I find most Star Wars fans (but not all, like myself) to be the most self centered, immature, nit-picky, rude fans of all.

 

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The most recent episode had a great light saber battle between Anakin and Dooku. It has been very enjoyable watching the very gradual descent of Anakin in the show (unlike the third movie which felt rushed).

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Wait, so this series actually fixes the plot? I may give it a try, even if there'll probably be no Kyle "Chuck Norris looks like me not the other way around" Katarn love in it. Any chance it'll extend beyond the Clone Wars and overwrite Revenge of the Sith?

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I haven't watched too many of them so I don't know what all they have explored but I would be curious as to what guidelines they have to follow in their story telling.  Some things about the Star Wars 'verse are and always will be written in stone for anyone jumping in to the fray of adding to the story arc. What I am particularly curious about is the Star Wars rules on time travel because should that ever be acceptable, the fans will really go nuts (eg Star Trek).

There is an article here about the possible upcoming, live-action Star Wars series that this past week rumors have begun to circulate on the possibility of time travel in the Star Wars saga that could change or undo everything we know.

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The Revenge of the Sith novelization fixes the plot of the movie Revenge of the Sith.

In the novel, it's pretty obvious that the Jedi had it coming and that Anakin did the right thing. Whether he needed to personally "deal" with the Younglings or not is debatable but it was pretty obvious that someone would have to deal with them.

Now, in the CGI show, The Clone Wars, Anakin is a pure hero. No whining. No endless brooding. Even the voice acting is forceful. He's doing what he thinks is right and the Jedi are quite often NOT doing what is right (other than Obi Wan, Yoda, and Anakin, the Jedi treat the clones basically like disposable droids).

Anakin's gradual migration to the dark side comes across has his occasional (but becoming more often) use of anger to fuel his combat abilities which he deems necessary to do "what needs to be done".  The Jedi, by contrast, often come across as hopelessly detached and elitist. Anakin's problem is that he cares about people. The Jedi's problem is that they don't care, the whole war is academic.

In the most recent episode, it becomes pretty obvious that when the people Anakin cares about are in danger, Anakin will do whatever it takes to win.

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I never got other Star Wars fans. The Clone Wars is a great show for children. It's one of those shows that also offers something for the grown ups to enjoy too. Lightsaber duels get better every episode. I don't see a reason to complain.

The problem with making an epic fantasy environment is that it will attract people that want an imaginary universe to live in, as there is little control over the real one. It's pretty easy to get flamed when your fans see you as the creator of an entire universe. Every inconsistency in new iterations of the universe is an affront to these people's reality. And that doesn' even cover the schizophrenics and bipolar people. Fantasy is a dangerous thing. 

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Its just not Star Wars fans who are like this...

 

Marvel and DC Comic fan boys are just as bad.

 

Lordy Lordy Lord....forgive someone for taking a new twist on a classic charcter or ever universe. 

 

 

 

Anywho, I really really like The Clone Wars. I watch with my son every Friday. I understand why the hardcore fans dont like it, but if your one of them you gotta treat this as those who like comics treat a new adaptation of your favorite comics. 

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Quoting seanw3, reply 9
The problem with making an epic fantasy environment is that it will attract people that want an imaginary universe to live in, as there is little control over the real one. It's pretty easy to get flamed when your fans see you as the creator of an entire universe. Every inconsistency in new iterations of the universe is an affront to these people's reality. And that doesn' even cover the schizophrenics and bipolar people. Fantasy is a dangerous thing. 

I agree with this, especially when you take into  account the format the series is in and channel it airs on. However, the rest of us are split and their voices grow loud in my head.

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So the Jedi are like WWI officers?

 

given the war tactics shown in Star Wars in general, this is not very surprising XD

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I absolutely despise The Clone Wars (TCW), because it has no respect whatsoever for the existing Expanded Universe (EU), and blurs the lines between canon and fanon. TCW purposefully contradicts the existing EU every step of the way, from retconning the Tantive IV in Revenge of the Sith to be the Sundered Heart from Star Wars: Empire at War (EaW) to retconning Ryloth, the homeworld of the Twi'lek, to rotate on its axis like every other planet, when the books always had one side face its star (like our moon always facing the same way towards Earth). I also can't stand Ahsoka Tano or Cad Bane. They can do nonsense like this, but they can't provide proper technical details for many ships and vehicles.

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Star Wars is one of the few fictional universes that has multiple generations of fans, each of which was introduced to the universe through a different set of interpretations. My theory is that the backlash over the animated series (and other relatively recent additions to the universe) results from one generation of fans dissatisfaction over what they view as their universe being rewritten for a newer generation. As a Star Wars fan, I'm not exactly immune to this. I've bristled over some of the posts in this thread because they were written by fans that have vastly different perspectives on the universe than I do.

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Now I enjoy "The Clone Wars" series. Ya sometimes my inner nerd will complain on little details, and yes it is point towards kids but still adults can watch it. Now I did love the "Clone Wars" series where the droids didn't talk to much and were straight up killers (they are not always herpa derp) and things were just epic, the fighting, ship fights, etc...

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Ugh, what is it about Star Wars “fans”

Well....you need several dozen of them together at one time to form a gestalt....otherwise they're not sentient.....;)

I cannot stand the Star Wars FRANCHISE .... not once it's demonstrated it is a product-placement vehicle for all the Lucas' Star Wars toys....nothing more.....;p

Personally, I need my S/F a little more mature and cerebral....;)

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Quoting Jafo, reply 16
Personally, I need my S/F a little more mature and cerebral....

BSG

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Don't look at some of the Old Republic game boards. Nothing but complaining there too.

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Quoting 2of3, reply 17
Quoting Jafo, reply 16Personally, I need my S/F a little more mature and cerebral....

BSG

FTW. :thumbsup:

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Quoting 2of3, reply 17
BSG

The guy with the Borg icon states BSG? WtF?  o_O

BSG was excellent though, just don't let the Star Trek SoA2 team I am on know I said that.

As to the OP, Just another case of the screaming minority causing bad decisions for the majority. They are all still babies that need a constant soother to shut them up..  >:(

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Which BSG are you referring to?

My family and I couldn't get into BSG re-imagined after having watched just about every original BSG episode during the Thanksgiving Day marathons on Sci-Fi years ago. Stargate Universe didn't work for us either, when it used the same style as BSG re-imagined, in contrast to SG-1 and Atlantis, which we loved.

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BSG was great, but it has the same portion of ridiculous fans. I hope someone realizes that this franchise has some more potential sales. No reason there couldn't a next generation. Science Fiction is pretty much dead on TV right now.   :fuzzy:

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Quoting seanw3, reply 22
Science Fiction is pretty much dead on TV right now.

 

Ain't that the truth.

 

Finished watching up the whole Babylon 5 series a few months ago, plus the Crusade follow-up series, plus the mini-movies, plus the actual movies ... and in a month or two will be watching them with my friend all over again! XD

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Quoting seanw3, reply 22
Science Fiction is pretty much dead on TV right now.

Indeed, after Stargate Atlantis was cut short to make way for Universe, only for Universe to not be well received and subsequently canceled. Which led to the third SG-1 movie and the first Atlantis movie being shelved indefinitely, when more SG-1 and Atlantis were what the majority of fans wanted to see, I started getting disappointed. Eureka was the last thing I liked on Sci-Fi, but the next season is going to be the final season. I have been really disappointed with Science Fiction television ever since these things started happening.

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Quoting Zeta1127, reply 21
Which BSG are you referring to?

BSG 2004-2009