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Devs, get rid of the retarded picture"sets"

Devs, get rid of the retarded picture"sets"

I never understood why you could never just pick your favorite picture for each race, or why there was always so few pictures.

The devs need to fix this.

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Reply #26 Top

@all

PLEASE stop the car analogies! You are freakingingly stp. Stay on topic.

 

As for the issue discussed here. Yes, it's a cosmetic issue. Nevertheless it is an issue. MyFists Fix is wonderful (many thanks, will include this in sotyr) but only works for a max of 6 races. What if somebody wants 7 in his mod? Yes, it's not game changing and only a graphical issue. Still a valid point to ask for a fix isn't it? Who are we all to decide if someone is allowed to ask (and I say merely ask) for a fix to a problem??

Just because one person has no problem with a shortcoming does not mean everybody must not have a problem with it.

Yes, there are more urgent things that need addressing, but why not do us a small favor once in a while? (And from a programmers perspective which I happen to be this really is a minor task, probably 1 - 2 days programming and another 1 or two testing max - just guesswork here though)

If we had a cosmetic issue of one ship missing a texture and being all black (or worse, teamcolor for that matter) it would still be a minor issue and one could argue that it was made deliberately and does not do anything to the gameplay or performance and one does not HAVE to build that ship. Its still a bug (or shortcoming or ommission) and it is valid to ASK for a fix.

Reply #27 Top

Quoting JCD-Bionicman, reply 23
Im pretty much being trolled by hard headed fucks right here. Pretty disappointing because I usually try my best to respect modders seeing the unpaid work they do. Oh well, fuck it.

Its because you refuse to listen and seem to be only half reading. So we are now assuming that you are only trolling.

 

Quoting TobiWahn_Kenobi, reply 26
PLEASE stop the car analogies! You are freakingingly stp. Stay on topic.

Do apologize good sir. In your case the request makes perfect sense. JCD's request was more of a whiny "I want things my way whaaaaa" and his attitude is either trollish or his IQ is approaching 50 or maybe both. And while I too wouldn't mind such a change, I just don't think its going to happen as it does involve a lot of reworking of the UI and such just because its a minor inconvenience.

In your case however its more of a technical issue that is giving your mod work problems. So I would gladly support this concept for that reason.

Again I do apologize to you TobiWahn_Kenobi and will refrain from responding to this troll (JCD-Bionicman) any further.

Reply #28 Top

@ryat

Didn't mean to be rude and no need for apologies to me. It's just we all know by now how JCD-Bionicman is (and argues or whines or whatever one thinks)

It's just that I think it is always valid to ask for a fix. His language might be lacking and showing the milieu in which he grew up and his might not be a tone to which some of us or the devs should respond to but the issue he brought up is in my opinion valid (even if he does not understand why :grin: )

As for me I for now can use MyFists fix but when the time comes and my mod is finally in the stages where one could ask for another race (ISA or Drakh) 6 pictures wont be enough any more. Perhaps that changes with rebellion though (if rebel faction gets its own pics)

Quoting Ryat, reply 27
JCD's request was more of a whiny "I want things my way whaaaaa" and his attitude is either trollish or his IQ is approaching 50 or maybe both

And ryat, as much as I understand your comment there is never any reason for grown ups to let ourselves get to the level of our adversary and resort to insults (We hold ourself to higher standards, so we have to live by them ;P )

 

Reply #29 Top

I guess I don't have a problem with JCD because I no longer read his posts as his method of arguing is not to my taste.

Quoting TobiWahn_Kenobi, reply 28
s for me I for now can use MyFists fix but when the time comes and my mod is finally in the stages where one could ask for another race (ISA or Drakh) 6 pictures wont be enough any more. Perhaps that changes with rebellion though (if rebel faction gets its own pics)

It's possible to have more factions present depending on your creativity with the player setup screen. Agreed on rebellion, we'll have to see how that manifests itself.

Reply #30 Top

Just another troll with a BMW driver attitude.

Reply #31 Top

Quoting ZombiesRus5, reply 29
It's possible to have more factions present depending on your creativity with the player setup screen.

Perfect!!!

Reply #32 Top

Thread summary:

Person A (me): Hey guys dont you think it would be nice to change the picturesets?

Group B (everyone else): Nah, Id rather them focus on more important things

Person A: Well it would be pretty easy to change and it would be pretty useful

Group B: Nah, It would require complex coding and it might take away from the development of the rest of the game so its not worth working on such a small thing

Guy C: [explains why Group B is wrong]

Group B: [uses redundant argument]

Person A: [gets angry at redundancy and stubbornness of everyone]

B: Wow your a troll

Guy D: [explains why it would be a useful feature for modders, but on the side agrees that A is "illiterate" and even though he was right, he probably doesnt understand why he was right and that hes probably from some kind of impoverished hillbilly family]

B: [Asskisses D]

A: [Very angry at how unfairly hes been treated]

Reply #33 Top

Zombie really knows how to work the code. I know he has helped the DS crew a lot.

Reply #34 Top

Quoting Ryat, reply 33
Zombie really knows how to work the code. I know he has helped the DS crew a lot.

 

^ This is a true statement.

Reply #35 Top

You haven't been treated unfairly.  You're just a piece of crap who refuses to believe that he's wrong.  And Myfist wasn't supporting you, he was actually explaining what I had already said, if he would have bothered to read it maybe he would have known that...  As I said, switching it to the icon system for the best way to make it work but as I also said which myfist didn't, that requires a lot of work to add an image (as well as convert over all of the existing images) since you have to do it 5 times over for every single image rather then just adding the image and increasing the number by 1 in a system that isn't broken.  IN A SYSTEM THAT ISN'T BROKEN.  That is why everyone else is saying fix other stuff first because other stuff IS broken.  Now fuck off.

Reply #36 Top

@JCD

look at ypur original post. This is not a question and it is not polite. It is rude at best and disgraceful at worst. And to command someone to do something is not the way to get some positive feedback!

@Stant123

Where shall I start... First, not much would have to be changed for the system to be more perfect (in my opinion). Todos:

  • Every race has a collection of Picture brushes in the race.entity file (2h)
  • Setting for player and AI (seperately) if Brush is fixed or random (1d, requires mod specific settings file)
  • A screen with a list on the left depicting all races (so one can set more than three) where race specific setting can be made (e.g. preferred Picture) (2d-3d)
  • Using not a mask and one picture but the selected picture brush in the screens (Diplomacy, Trade,...) (1d-2d)
  • Testing (2d)

Thats thats less than 2 work weeks. It's not cheap to do (considering what a programmer/designer per week costs) but it's not that expensive if its a problem going forward with the sins engine. It's more a problem of development time I believe (devs - and I know hat I speak of - often have a very busy schedule)

Quoting Stant123, reply 35
IN A SYSTEM THAT ISN'T BROKEN.

Quoting Stant123, reply 35
Now fuck off.

Shouting and insulting make you the same level as JCD in his OP. Please refrain from it and stay civilised

Reply #37 Top

Quoting TobiWahn_Kenobi, reply 36
@JCD
look at ypur original post. This is not a question and it is not polite. It is rude at best and disgraceful at worst. And to command someone to do something is not the way to get some positive feedback!

Ok then, lets see:

Devs, get rid of the retarded picture"sets"

By on January 26, 2012 9:26:27 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

I never understood why you could never just pick your favorite picture for each race, or why there was always so few pictures.

The devs need to fix this.

Please explain to me how this is so rude.

Reply #38 Top

The title is the key.

 

Reply #39 Top

I agree that calling someone's work retarded is impolite to say the least

Reply #40 Top

WTF, haha Ryat borked the thread

Reply #41 Top

I like borking as much as the next guy, but you shouldn't get crooked doing it.

Reply #42 Top

Check JCD's post. It started it all. :P

And yes, if he and titled it a bit more properly I probably would have joined in. Instead he had to be......... retarded about it.

Reply #43 Top

Indeed. Personally, I don't care about the toggle set as even with the same race I'll change the image from time to time. I'm glad to see you can add races and more images overall, but the toggle design is not a huge issue. Even with fisto's offset count, it might still take some time to get exactly the combination of faces you want.

Reply #44 Top

If you guys are seriously taking "retarded picturesets" as a personal insult to yourselves or the devs, your all a special kind of stupid.

Does the term "borking" have anything to do with the visual error Im seeing right now?

Reply #45 Top

Could the title have been different? Sure.

Does the title make me look a bit less intellectual? Sure.

Does the title being what it is excuse any of the comments made by other users? Absolutely not.

Reply #46 Top

Quoting Draakjacht, reply 43
Personally, I don't care about the toggle set

Quoting Draakjacht, reply 43
the toggle design is not a huge issue

Reply #47 Top

First impressions are everything JCD. That first impression always puts a colored shade on everything said thereafter in that thread. Just keep that in mind if you're trying to get the Dev's attention. *shrugs* Seems to work better when you don't insult (or appear to make light of) their work as it currently stands (right or wrong as that may be).

Reply #48 Top

Using a car analogy is fine.

 

I agree that this would be a simple and worthwhile change.  This game could use a lot of fluff that would make it infinately more awesome, but would have no change on gameplay what so ever!  Things like multi-layer icons that you can piece together, with a laywer for your clan icon.  Dual color sets, not just single color along with tons of different faction pictures would make this game much mroe awesome.

Reply #49 Top

Quoting JCD-Bionicman, reply 32
If you guys are seriously taking "retarded picturesets" as a personal insult to yourselves or the devs, your all a special kind of stupid.

See? Thats the way you relate to others. And you wonder why we don't think your way is appropriate...

Retarded is insulting to the work they have done there. Could it have been done better? Yes. Is it retarded? no, because it works just fine. We may not like it's limitations, but it is working.

The devs need to fix this is a command, an order. You sir are in no position to order the devs around! You can start programming your own little perfect game (I doubt you could) but you are in no place to command others to do your bidding. Who do you think you are?

Stay civilised, stay nice, perhaps something good might come your way. The IC team half-promised me functions they never realised.

(see https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/361995)

Will I complain to them? No, because they would mostly benefit my mod and do nothing for their work. I complain when something is definitely not working. I might take issue with a specific implementation and suggest a workaround. I will not command others to do it though.

Reply #50 Top

@Ryan

What did you post that confused the thread?