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January 20, 2012 2:51:50 PM from Elemental ForumsElemental Forums

So it has been a while since I last defragmented my laptop. I run the windows defragger, come back 12 hours later and it says it's still working. Is something wrong? Is there free defragging software superior to the one included with windows?

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Reply #1 January 20, 2012 3:38:36 PM
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http://www.piriform.com/defraggler

my favorite. You can run a full or partial defrag. I usually use partial. Quicker. I also like that I can let defraggler turn my PC off when it is done.

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Reply #2 January 20, 2012 3:56:26 PM
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im liking it so far. it tells and shows you what its doing. my biggest gripe with the windows defrag is i have no idea if its frozen or still working.

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Reply #3 January 20, 2012 4:04:09 PM
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Othello - I really like this free one a great deal. It's a 'smart defragger' which will arrange your disk to allow the fastest access to your fave programs.

http://www.iobit.com/iobitsmartdefrag.html

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Reply #4 January 20, 2012 4:08:51 PM
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I've been using Iobit Smart Defrag for several years, It works very well as does all of Iobits software I have tried.

If you game (and something tells me you do), take a look at Game Booster, great software.

*Not affiliated with Iobit in any way,I just pass along what works for me.

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Reply #5 January 20, 2012 4:11:10 PM
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@ Doc. Whaddya know, great minds really do think alike.

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Reply #6 January 20, 2012 5:35:48 PM
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it's been at 3% for the past hour or so

im no expert but this doesnt look good.

i downloaded iobit upon your recommendations, will try it later.

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Reply #7 January 20, 2012 5:43:54 PM
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Quoting Wizard1956,
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@ Doc. Whaddya know, great minds really do think alike.

  

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Reply #8 January 20, 2012 5:46:56 PM
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Quoting Othello,
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it's been at 3% for the past hour or so

Reduced 76%Original 782 x 223

im no expert but this doesnt look good.

i downloaded iobit upon your recommendations, will try it later.

Not sure which are the files that need to be defraged the red or blue. Either way let whatever you use run and get that hard drive back in shape. If you do it once a week it will only take a few minutes once you get it together.

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Reply #9 January 20, 2012 7:04:35 PM
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You biggest problem for defragging is you only have 20% free space.  That slows the process down.

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Reply #10 January 20, 2012 7:11:33 PM
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Quoting Othello,
reply 6
it's been at 3% for the past hour or so

ALl those red squares are fragmented files. Looks like you have a LOT. It looks like you need this bad. AND you have a decent size HD. It's gonna take some time. Removing large programs like Photoshop or deleting a lot of stuff can fragment files.

You may want to run CCleaner or Advance System Care to clean out some of the junk first.

Then just Defraggler  run. I don't know of one that does it 'quickly' and Defraggler and the one from iobit are good.

I keep mine defragged (monthly or so) and use Defraggler. My Vista drive is the same size as yours and Defraggler will run for a few hours. The mess (sorry, nothing personal) you have there with files that are fragmented is going to take a while. (Maximize Defraggler and then expand that window down. You'll see almost all of the files and I'm betting you're gonna see an ass load more of those red squares) You may want to run it over night once or twice when you're not on it.

That 20% free space is going to be a problem. You may have to stop and reboot and restart it.

If there is anything on there you can get off (music files, pics, etc) you may want to do that first or back up all that stuff to get it off the HD.

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Reply #11 January 20, 2012 8:17:50 PM
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Another plug for SmartDefrag 2.  Nice app.

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Reply #12 January 20, 2012 8:27:00 PM
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Quoting PoSmedley,
reply 10
That 20% free space is going to be a problem. You may have to stop and reboot and restart it.

Not with SmartDefrag 2  - takes a little time, but so what?

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Reply #13 January 20, 2012 10:38:30 PM
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Whats the recommended percentage of free space I should keep at any one time?

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Reply #14 January 20, 2012 10:56:41 PM
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Keep in mind that, along with your free space, you also have to consider file size.

A lot of small files will defrag a lot quicker than if you have many very large files.

 

I have many movies and tv shows that are in the 2-8GB range, and they can take a very long time to defrag - especially if you are rather low on free space. 

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Reply #15 January 21, 2012 12:38:51 AM
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Quoting Moosetek13,
reply 14
I have many movies and tv shows that are in the 2-8GB range, and they can take a very long time to defrag - especially if you are rather low on free space.

Quoting Wizard1956,
reply 4
If you game (and something tells me you do), take a look at Game Booster, great software.

Games too. That's why Wiz mentioned Gamebooster. You can defrag just your game files with it.

Defraggler will let you move your larger files (do it for you, I mean, if you select it) and put them all together at one end.

15% to 25% free space should be okay. On an older laptop with a little 60GB HD, Defraggler made me stop when it started getting down to 10% free space.

Like I said, if your files are as badly fragmented as your SS suggests, it could take a while..a long while. I don't know what you're running (XP, Vista, 7) or how old your laptop is but that can play into the time it takes as well.

System Restore takes up a ton of space as well.

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Reply #16 January 21, 2012 3:02:38 AM
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Quoting Othello,
reply 13
Whats the recommended percentage of free space I should keep at any one time?

Enough to allow page file size variations.  You don't really need a heck of a lot...and 'Dows will tell you when it thinks it's getting 'choked'.

My little SSD is currently 92% full ...[8% free for those lacking in math] ...

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Reply #17 January 21, 2012 9:13:43 AM
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Ashampoo Magical Defrag 3 defrags your computer whenever it is idle, which means you don't have to worry about manually starting the defrag process at all.

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Reply #18 January 21, 2012 9:22:16 AM
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I have Auslogic defrag. 300gb HD took less than an hour to defrag. IObit and smart defrag are good too, used them both.

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Reply #19 January 21, 2012 9:25:46 AM
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Quoting StevenAus,
reply 17
Ashampoo Magical Defrag 3 defrags your computer whenever it is idle, which means you don't have to worry about manually starting the defrag process at all.

SmartDefrag2 does the same... real time defrag. Both are quite good... your choice.

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Reply #20 January 21, 2012 9:26:12 AM
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Quoting Jafo,
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My little SSD is currently 92% full ...[8% free for those lacking in math] ...

Yeah, but when was the last time you defragged your SSD?

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Reply #21 January 21, 2012 9:42:39 AM
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Quoting Uvah,
reply 18
I have Auslogic defrag. 300gb HD took less than an hour to defrag. IObit and smart defrag are good too, used them both.

Quoting DrJBHL,
reply 19
SmartDefrag2 does the same... real time defrag. Both are quite good... your choice.

Quoting StevenAus,
reply 17
Ashampoo Magical Defrag 3 defrags your computer whenever it is idle, which means you don't have to worry about manually starting the defrag process at all.

Just pick one and go with it. (If you're running Win7 you can use Windows defrag. It's a huge improvement over XP and Vista) I think we all agree the HD needs to be defragged and no matter what you use it's going to take a while. You definitely have enough space to do it. Let us know how it works out.

*We really need some kind of protocol or disclaimer when it comes to bombarding recommending programs and software to anyone.

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Reply #22 January 21, 2012 10:17:54 AM
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Yes 20% free space for me at least is what I consider a full HD.  This is because restore points can use up space quickly and also Windows will start working the HD harder to use more of the available space thus causing more fragmentation.  The fuller a HD becomes the harder it gets worked.

You can and must defrag that HD with 20% free space.  I personally wouldn't recommend any more installs of software needing GB's of space. 

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Reply #23 January 21, 2012 10:33:42 AM
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Quoting Wizard1956,
reply 20
Yeah, but when was the last time you defragged your SSD?

I don't.

It's not necessary.

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Reply #24 January 21, 2012 12:21:20 PM
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Quoting Moosetek13,
reply 14
I have many movies and tv shows that are in the 2-8GB range, and they can take a very long time to defrag - especially if you are rather low on free space. 

Another Smartdefrag user here. I have it do a scheduled "Defrag & Fully Optimize" overnight on Sundays and run the automatic defrag on all but my backup disks

You can set Smartdefrag to skip files over a size you specify via a slider in settings.....backup files, iso's, movies etc. don't usually fragment so I skip them

 

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Reply #25 January 21, 2012 1:20:16 PM
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I run mst Defrag on my PC. The nice thing about it is once you run your initial defrag, it runs proactively in the background keeping your drives defragmented with no noticeable affect on the PC's operations or performance at all. Right now it is only $9.90 US for a single user license too. Set it and forget it, you'll never have to run a defrag program again. It also does all your hard drives, or even USB's if you want to, at the same time. You can check it out if you like at: http://www.mstsoftware.com/

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