Attention: kamil4772 invalidates games regularly

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Update: I've played several games with/vs kamil yesterday and today. Not a single invalidation and he became much nicer overall. I'm not deleting this post altogether, but just FYI - it seems to me the guy has turned his asshole mode off.

 

Since we have quite an influx of new/returning old players, a fair warning is due (I guess those who played actively during last 1.5 years are well aware of kamil's cheating habits).

An example is here: http://www.filehosting.org/file/details/295949/playgrindark.DGReplay

It's a Cata 3v3 IN1/Playgroundlegend/Darkliath vs kamil4772/LuftBR/DominionSeraph. Apart from the surprisingly chaotic teamplay exhibited by the other team, the game is nothing to write home about. Please note: Dominion leaves the game after telling us his Reg (kamil) sucks on the crystal all match long and is totally worthless (btw, I don't think he is right - technically, kamil is not a bad player, though nowhere near Julia's level as a Reg). That leaves us with two potential invalidators: LuftBR (who, to be honest, could not firmly recall how to play this game, all the less how to invalidate it) and kamil4772 (who, as many remember, has been doing this on a regular basis before Epoch IV). Guess who?

It sucks to play for half an hour, clearly win, only to get invalidated by kamil.

 

PS: This guy is also fond of joining the lobbies I host and telling ppl to look up opengames.asp total drops listing. While people I play with usually know me quite well and tell kamil to leave, it's still annoying. Honestly, I don't understand why we are having this particular listing at all. If you have 1000 games and dropped 100 (10%), you'll be listed as a super-leaver. Is that logical? In the first column that implies that it's the most important statistic, goddamit. Drop percentile ratio and desynch ratio are much more meaningful statistics. Maybe pacov can see to that...

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Reply #1 from Demigod Forums Top

btw is darkli still playing from time to time??

Reply #2 from Demigod Forums Top

Yup, she plays quite a lot recently.

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Reply #3 from Demigod Forums Top

never had a problem with the guy

Reply #4 from Demigod Forums Top

OMHIN1 is a great player. I agree with nnils :-)

Reply #6 from Demigod Forums Top

Good to know. I know somebody who does that a lot too, gonna take his name and post here later.

Reply #7 from Demigod Forums Top

Hui_hui is another one who does this a LOT!

Reply #8 from Demigod Forums Top

DOn't even play with hui hui, huge ms for me

Reply #10 from Demigod Forums Top

yo just passed here to say its impossible to desync on porpose and

 

OMG_IN1 is rated 1st most dropped games.

 

EDIT: when i tried to alert the community for this pacov locked my thread but i guess its ok flaming kamil

Reply #11 from Demigod Forums Top

It's very much possible to invalidate on purpose, as any experienced player knows (: 'Most dropped games' is not a vital statistic, it's just something that happens if you don't want to waste your time in a lost match with stubborn teammates. The opponents still get the win, so no one suffers.

Reply #12 from Demigod Forums Top

Wip - I'm sure you can tell the difference between your post (outright flaming) and in1's post here, right?  In case you cannot, your post was called IN1's congratulations thread.  In it, you congratulated him for finally accomplishing something in Demigod (eg highest number of dropped games).  This thread is a warning about playing with a certain individual that IN1 claims was perhaps stat exploiting.  IN1 updated the OP after additional games indicating that there hasn't been a single invalid by the player in question that he's aware of.  So, one thread is just a flame.  Another is perhaps different, yes? 

Re: In1's highest number of drops stat.  Well, the only folks with a high number are folks that rage quit, folks with serious connection issues, or folks that quit when they don't think there is a chance in hell.  So, all you can really infer from the number is one of those 3.  And then you can decide if you want to avoid someone like that based on your conclusion. 

Reply #13 from Demigod Forums Top

i dont see much of a dif between them if u consider the fact that

1. its impossible to invalid on porpose

2. kamil has been playing for over an year

3. kamil has shitty stats

4. no1 cares about stats anymore they are not even working properly

 

invalids happen randomly when some1 leaves some1 captures to many flags and a bunch of other reasons whats important for u to understand is that they are RANDOM and if u haven't figured that out in 2 years of demigod than ur either dumb or ur just flaming ppl so i assumed the 2nd but i guess i might have been wrong.

Reply #14 from Demigod Forums Top

In response to your last paragraph - you have no idea what you are talking about, WIP. 

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Reply #15 from Demigod Forums Top

hmm hard to be more explicit but i'll try to make it even easier for u to understand

99.9% of the time invalids happen when some1 leaves the game if u had explained this to ppl instead of acting all pro (oh invalids are the real deal i know how to invalid cuz i am pro but i wont tell any1) then normal active players would not be blamed for invalid all the time.

NOW READ THIS by in1.

"It's a Cata 3v3 IN1/Playgroundlegend/Darkliath vs kamil4772/LuftBR/DominionSeraph. Apart from the surprisingly chaotic teamplay exhibited by the other team, the game is nothing to write home about. Please note: Dominion leaves the game after telling us his Reg (kamil) sucks on the crystal all match long and is totally worthless (btw, I don't think he is right - technically, kamil is not a bad player, though nowhere near Julia's level as a Reg). That leaves us with two potential invalidators: LuftBR (who, to be honest, could not firmly recall how to play this game, all the less how to invalidate it) and kamil4772 (who, as many remember, has been doing this on a regular basis before Epoch IV). Guess who?"

 

not only is this "idiot" guessing about who is causing desyncs but also he fails to see THAT ONE PLAYER LEFT causing the game do desync. there are even comments about how kamil sucks etc, he is obviously pissed at kamil and came here to rage.

 

there is a handfull of players worshiped by ppl like in1, one of them its u, if u tell him ppl can cause desyncs he will straight up believe u and start looking for ppl to blame and rage at.

Reply #16 from Demigod Forums Top

Pacov, you hear that? I worship you, hehe. Just don't publish our private correspondence, else poor Wip will be sooo surprised :)

Reply #17 from Demigod Forums Top

i'm sure i wouldnt be the only one surprised.

anyways if u dont look to pacov as the exemple u look at someone else, this whole thread is proof of it, if u used your head instead of listening to others about desyncs u wouldnt be posting this crap about kamil so my point stands.

Reply #18 from Demigod Forums Top

i caused some invalid gamestate and it does happen random.. you cant control it. Also i dont really like golix but i can see the truth in some of the points he is making... 

Reply #19 from Demigod Forums Top

since when have golix and visca become so nice and write meaningful sentences ? i gotta reawake the trolls in them !

Reply #20 from Demigod Forums Top

i was never a troll lol :) you on the other hand... a real dg hero  :troll:

Reply #21 from Demigod Forums Top

Hm. Something happened today that made me reconsider my position somewhat. A certain player, UltraNoob33, tricked me into playing with utter noobs. I did not enjoy my teammates feeding non-stop, so I said goodbye and quit. After which that gentleman  pm'd me with something like: "Nice critical error, you stat whore!". And I just quit...

Reply #22 from Demigod Forums Top

Omg ini, you bitch get out of this game and this forum for good!!!11!