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[SotC] Universal Race Relations

[SotC] Universal Race Relations

[help me out]

http://sins-of-the-creator.weebly.com/races.html

 

I figured out how to add as many races as I want to my m0d and only load the assets when the stackable race is applied.

Help me out with who should be allies and enemies with who please. You can click the link to that races table and copy the table to the post or any quick notes are also good. 

 

 

8472
Advent
Amarr Empire
Ancients
Argon Federation
Asgard
Beast
Borg
Boron Kingdom
Caldari State
Cardassian
Centauri Republic
Colonial
Cylon
Dalek
Dominion
Earth Alliance
Galactic Empire
GTA
Gallente Federation
Goa'uld
Hiigaran
Khaak
Klingon  Empire
Kushan
Minbari Federation
Minmatar Republic
Narn Regime
Paranid Empire
Rebel Alliance
Romulan
Shadows
Shivan
Sivtherium Corp
Somtaaw
Split Dynasty
Starfleet
System Alliance
Taiidan

Tau'ri
TEC
Teladi
Vasari
Vasudan
Vaygr
Vorlon Empire
Wraith
Xenon

 

 


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[Leaked] Diplomatic Cables

 

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Reply #126 Top

This mod looks awesome. I was wondering if you were thinking about adding the Republic and CIS from star wars? It would be still be an amazing mod without them, but it would be even more amazing with them.

Reply #127 Top

Quoting rand0mguy, reply 126
This mod looks awesome. I was wondering if you were thinking about adding the Republic and CIS from star wars? It would be still be an amazing mod without them, but it would be even more amazing with them.

Galactic Empire and Rebel Alliance 8O

Reply #128 Top

ok q & a time :)

what is going on with the tauri relations page, quite a few of the dislikes should be on the allies side and quite a few should be on the hate side

the asgard especcially should never have even been thought about to be placed in the dislike category

nerd rage

if u need help with the stargate races i can deff help with that :)

Reply #129 Top

Most pages are just stock copies for now. Give me some info and the page will be updated. EG

Tauri +2 Asgaurd
Tauri +1 Federation
Tauri -2 Borg

Etc

That's why I made this page. I did not get into the Stargate show or Babylon 5 so I have no idea of how these races would interact. 

[Leaked] Diplomatic Cables from the OP is info givin already that I do not want to forget about.

Reply #130 Top

this is the tauri diplomacy stuff for the races i knew
(open for debate :)...)

advent- could go either way hate or dislike cuz the tauri are very similar to the tec
ancients - the tauri love em but the ancients have proven to be kinda arrogant on occasion so i would go with either like or neutral with them
asgard - hands down ally
cardassian - well they enslaved a world for a long time so im thinking dislike
centauri - enslaved narn, has some nasty leaders that happen to be morons, but also has some good leaders that can be very motivated, i'll go with neutral for them
colonial - ally, they're pretty much like the asgard or ancients that made the replicators but then turned against them
dominion - dislike they're bad but only as bad as the goauld
earth alliance - i'm going to with the most recent events that happened there for em where they have a good president, likes
galactic empire - dislikes
goauld - long time standing enemy, kill on sight
hiigaran - likes
klingon - hard to make diplomacy work but after a few missions together allies............so i guess neutral
minbari - allies, they are kinda easy with diplomacy
narn - like because they were oppressed
rebel alliance, allies because of their struggles against the empire
romulan - neutral same as starfleet
shadows - hate, their evil
starfleet - allies, or part of the federation, they got extremly excited over seeing the asurans without some of the background information and they would have been extremely awesome allies except for the replicator part so if they had met someone like the federation they would jump at the chance to become very very close allies with them
tec - allies
vasari - dislikes
vayger - dislikes
vorlon - neutral
wraith - kill on sight unless its todd lol (hate)
borg - hate
cylon - hate
dalek - hate

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Reply #131 Top

I was wondering if the Andromeda series could be added as well?

 

Let me know, i can give you plenty of details :)

Reply #132 Top

Quoting SivCorp, reply 131
Let me know, i can give you plenty of details

Details Schmeetails  o_O ;P

Give me models and you got it.

Siv, can you install Windows live mesh? Do you have a window live ID I can add to the account?

We should start sharing some folders that update on the fly.

My newest creation. The beginning of the end for all humanoids.  }:)

YOU WILL BE EXTERMINATED
EXTERMINATE
EXTERMINATE

Reply #133 Top

@ noing: Geat job on that list. :thumbsup: k1

Give me a day or 2 to update the pages and I will add you to the list of SotC diplomats. 

Reply #134 Top

coolio

i'll keep getting those lists put together

Reply #136 Top

Yes I did Theo. Sorry I got sidetracked and forgot to respond.

The characters will be hard to do uniformly if at all. I am liking the idea of just the races emblem in the character picture and customizing each wallpaper for each race with a few good images of their ships and/or structures on top of those loading screens I gave you.

But I am still open to good ideas.  :D

Reply #137 Top
Ok I think standing/full body characters are out, i cant find any full body images of the X3 races, unless we've got a 2D artist who can create from scratch, here in the forum. I will have a go at the wallpapers you sent me.
Reply #138 Top

Dalek page updated

Tau'ri page updated with noing's relations info.


Reply #139 Top

i dont think the daleks have a dislike for anyone

they hate everyone end of discussion lol

Reply #140 Top

Quoting noing, reply 139
i dont think the daleks have a dislike for anyone

they hate everyone end of discussion lol

I can do that but to compensate for no allies we need to make the uber powerful.

Reply #141 Top

well they are supposed to be uber powerful

its hard enough just to take down 1 dalek by himself

Reply #142 Top

Quoting noing, reply 141
well they are supposed to be uber powerful
its hard enough just to take down 1 dalek by himself

 

They can't beat the Doctor.

Reply #143 Top

true but they can beat everyone else

Reply #144 Top

How do I download this mod?

Reply #145 Top

I guess I should post in the OP that there is no m0d as of yet. This is 1 hell of a big job that will keep me busy into retirement.

This is not really the m0ds page. I just was asking who like and hate who so I can design the research trees around the story. Like if Hiigaran are allies with STarfleet then the Hiigarans can research Federation tecs up the tree.

Reply #146 Top

ancient diplomatic tree to my knowledge
amcients         (+2)
borg               (-2)
cylon              (-1)
dalek              (-2)
advent            (-1)
asgard            (+2)
cardassia         (0)
colonial           (+1)
dominion         (-1)
earth alliance   (+1)
galactic empire (-1)
goauld             (-1)
hiigaran          (+1)
klingon            (0)
minbari           (0)
narn               (+1)
rebel alliance   (+1)
romulan          (0)
shadows         (-2)
starfleet          (+2)
tauri               (+2)
tec                 (+2)
vasari             (-1)
vayger            (-1)
vorlon             (0)
wraith             (-2)

this can go for starfleet as well

Reply #147 Top

tanks  :thumbsup:

3 new races from Freespace  8C

 

Reply #148 Top

The advent being buddy with the amarr seems kind of opposite. If I remember correctly, the Advent were expelled from the TEC for being different and not socially acceptable. The TEC are more likely allies to the Amarr by far, which is still a crapshoot because they still have a degree of freedom similar to USA today, iirc. And the closest in Sins that would ally with Amarr would be Vasari; and also unlikely pact, as the vasari are even described as having great freedom, but similar to the borg in that they wish to simply incorporate other peoples, disimilar in that they wish to no take away individuality.

Reply #149 Top
I will make a post for each in alphabetical throughout days.... starting with Advent. *First Person as if I am Advent*
-2, Hate:
Borg - The Advent do not wish to be assimilated.
Cylon - I think we're talking about the quick to shoot first and ask questions later cylons, not the separate play nice love real humans faction?
Dalek - They shoot everything, right?
TEC - Our arch enemy.
Caldari - Like the TEC, only more dramatic on the exact traits the advent despise about the TEC. The TEC are probably only hated more for history.
Wraith - Aren't they, like, plotting to eat us as we type this?
 
-1, Dislike:
Amarr - We dislike supression of our right to Harmony when they feel like being harmonious; the Amarr would be quick to supress our religion.
Argon - Less severe versions of the TEC
Boron - Less severe versions of the TEC
Colonial - Less severe versions of the TEC
Earth Alliance - Less severe versions of the TEC
Galactic Empire - Very evil psionists (they say force, lol) in the eyes of the advent, and other structures similar to the TEC.
Goa'uld - Are likely to the the same things to them as the TEC, only more deceptive... and the Advent can easily see past deception.
Minmatar - Less severe versions of the TEC. Suffer bros, yet their society is far too suspiciously set up similar to the TEC.
Paranoid - How can advent get along with a xenophobic semi-ally of the Argon and Boron?
Shadow - The Advent can probably -see- what these guys are up to, but would they still trust them after knowing the full truth upon a few encounters?
Split - Too suspiciously similar to the TEC. They form the bulk of a 'profit' guild? NO PSYCHICS NEEDED. WE DUN LIKE.
Teladi - Pirates, profit, profit as the expense of anything? Including harmony, possibly? Eek!
Vasari - While they kindly turned the TECs attention for a moment enough for us to plow all their crap quickly, they attacked us after that, too!
Vaygr - They -integrate- other races? O_O! *freaks out back to the time they had this one advent fleet that almost lost an illuminator to thousands of vasari dark fleet swarms*.
 
0, Neutral:
Ancients - Not particularly subjugating, nor do they have a cause we can relate to. If this cluster-crap were to happen, this is where we'd start, and relations could improve.
Asgard - See Ancients
Cardassian - They have a plight we can sort of relate to, but only barely. Their industrial base is somewhat similar to that of the TEC, but not very much so.
Dominion - We see no problem with manufacturing an army from an inferior muscle species; in fact, we might adopt that too! Otherwise, see Ancients.
Centauri - See Ancients
Gallente - See Ancients
Hiigaran - They do have a powerful female idol, which is cool... but otherwise, see Ancients.
Klingon - See Ancie.... wait, they have sex how? . . . *hesistantly places on neutral*
Minbari - See Ancients
Narn - See Ancients
Romulan - See Ancients
System Alliance - See Ancients
Tau'ri - See Ancients
Vorlon - Psions that have thought it necessary to kill an enitre planet? Can they be reasoned with?
Voth - See Ancients
Xenon - See Ancients
 
1, Like:
Rebel Alliance - They contain psions (they guys say force, too? Psshht!). They have a strong code of ethics, an industry with powerful protective regulation, and only seek to destroy supression. We can agree with these guys.
Starfleet - Their freaking consoles used to blow up upon enemy phaser fire not more than 10 years ago... They're becoming rapidly powerful, but also seek to put down oppression.
 
2, Ally:
8472 - Psionic, prefer passive behavior, quite reactive to hostilities. Pretty much everything here matches up. Oh and they are allies with Starfleet. This is a nice deal.
 
Reply #150 Top

I don't think Kha'ak = Species 8472

This requires it's own post. In case you don't actually watch Star Trek enough to know this, the 8472 are not -horribly evil-. They attacked the Borg because the Borg attacked them. At the wrong moment and wrong time, the Intrepid Class USS Voyager made a momentary pact with the Borg through 7 of 9 and hostilities with 8472 ensued. This was later extinguished.

 

The 8472 are simply an extraordinarily powerful soceity on the level of the Voth, and probably beyond the Galactic Empire. This doesn't make them evil. They produce almost no large powerful ships, rather very small vessels manned by 1 individual, capable of going head to head against a borg cube. Bring many battleships (quite large, still only singular manned) together, and witness the destruction of a planet. They cannot instantaneously withstand the amount of damage a ship from Star Wars can, but definitely more over a period of time.

When the Borg collective came back from collapse at the hands of Starfleet (Voyager), and showed they weren't really dead, rogue Borg Spheres Rendezvoued with Species 8472 and Dominion forces to thrwart a Gamma quadrant threat.