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Answers about the Moderation Process

Answers about the Moderation Process

We have been receiving some questions about moderation from both new and established users.  I wanted to take a few moments to answer some of the common questions, and give you a chance to ask questions that I will answer in a later post.

Why was my skin approved later than others, even though I submitted before them?

Skins are not moderated in order of their submission.  Once a skin is uploaded it is placed in a moderation gallery to be looked at by the moderators.  Some skins take longer for a variety of reasons such as waiting to receive more opinions on the skin, or to verify a permission, etc.  We try to get skins through as fast as possible, but we have a limited staff, and although they do phenomenal work, only so much can be done at a time.

 

Where is my wallpaper, it was approved but not in the gallery?

It is more than likely in your personal gallery.  WinCustomize is a moderated gallery and not all submissions are placed into the public gallery.  Please see the upload guidelines for more information.

 

Why is the rating lower now than when it was approved?

Moderators put through an initial rating, but once it is in the public galleries any user can then rate skins.  

 

What can I do to up the chances of my wallpaper making it into the public gallery?

There is not a single solution I can recommend, but some tips can help.  First, focus on quality not quantity.  Uploading wallpapers just to get more downloads will actually increase your chances of not being made public.  Be unique, take your time, solicit feedback from peers, and just enjoy what you are doing.

 

If you have any questions you would like answered about moderation, please leave them in the comments and I will make another post soon answering as much as I can. :)

 

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Reply #26 Top

Quoting Lantec, reply 25

Quoting Wizard1956, reply 22IIRC, the wallpaper gallery is moderated by a team of three

Not 100% true. All gallery mods can rate "vote on" wallpapers so at times there are as many as 7 or 8 votes on a specific item. The minimum is 3.

Fixed. Thanks for the correction. :thumbsup:

@ Stramp. Your link requires me to sign into my DB account and leads me back to my own public folder. o_O

Reply #27 Top

Thanks Lantec at least I'm getting some new INFO to me from someone!  :thumbsup:  How many actually did vote? That would be interesting to know.

Reply #28 Top

If the work is so bad to only get a HALF Star then why was the wall given 2- 2* and one half stars??? It is the same wall and is not distracted by the user icon!  :rolleyes: :yes: mate Ckeck out link!

https://www.dropbox.com/lightbox/home/Public

Reply #29 Top

I know what you are gonna say already! This is what I don't want. I just wanted to have it reviewed and considering the support and comments and being featured. I think you can see I am getting others opinions in favor of it.

Reply #30 Top

Quoting Stramp, reply 28
Ckeck out link!

The link takes me to my own public Drop box folder. I sent you a PM.

Reply #31 Top

Quoting Wizard1956, reply 26
@ Stramp. Your link requires me to sign into my DB account and leads me back to my own public folder.

Do you mean this one? https://www.wincustomize.com/explore/logonstudio/11142/  

 

Quoting Wizard1956, reply 22
the recourse has always been to PM the Moderator(s)

A soapbox for asking the public for an appraisal of your work is not the intent of this thread. These things never fly straight. They seldom go in the desired direction. ;)

Reply #32 Top

The Wallpaper gallery and Logon Gallery are two different things entirely.

A wall may be approved just fine but the exact same image is rejected as a logon...typically because logons really 'should' have some relevance to an Operating system .... although that doesn't always apply.  It certainly was more clear/made more sense when logons actually REQUIRED skinning, and weren't just some meaningless wall plonked into more than one category.

When it comes to deciding what is accepted and what is not....the Mods' decision is final.  They manage the galleries on behalf of the site owner [Stardock].  If anyone at all is adamant theirs MUST be accepted they are always free to host their images themselves on their own site.

If anyone is 'curious' about why something didn't make it into a gallery they are free to PM me [only...not in public].... but please come forward with a thick skin.  If I think something is 'crap' I will say so, but you will also get a 'why' which invariably people will disagree with....- they often do.

 

A decade ago I 'culled' the wall gallery from 700 to 400 without much effort on my part [other than it was done on dial-up] and even then could have been MORE critical and probably been left with 200.

....those 400/200 would have been at a standard/style that Stardock deemed acceptable.  The difference today is the percentage is likely not much different....good vs not so good ... but the numbers are bigger.

 

When it comes to Logons ....particularly the Vista/7 variety....I think I could easily cull 90% and have a semi-OK collection.

Reply #33 Top

One more thing...specific to this logon.   If it were your OWN artwork and not someone else's.... [even with permission] it just might have been approved....but where is "the skill" or "art" or "skinning" - even in grabbing someone else's image and uploading it as 'whatever'?

ANYONE could simply grab any wall image and plonk it in on their computer as a

logon....or a wall...or anything else....why even need a third party?

 

 

 

 

 

Reply #34 Top

A soapbox for asking the public for an appraisal of your work is not the intent of this thread. These things never fly straight. They seldom go in the desired direction.

Indeed. I find it frustrating to not be able to award less than ½ star ;)

Reply #35 Top
And there really ain't much to add once the subtractin's done
And since there ain't no ZEROes, I give you a ONE.
From the song Numbers by Bobby Bare
 
Reply #36 Top

To be perfectly honest about the image that was uploaded, after reading the description by the uploader, I was very irritated by the fact that it was actually created by someone else and being uploaded here by his "buddy?" I mean really....what is this.....his personal promotional/marketing department ??  It just didn't seem genuine to me , thus I simply clicked off the page.          -- Ace --

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Reply #37 Top

As I posted in your accompanying walls comments section..

 

Not every logon with a matching wall, will get accepted even if it's counter part is, and vice versa..

This wall, I voted for particularly because I felt it would be a an interesting Halloween type of wall, But any other time I would have voted against, not due to lack of quality, but originality.

You must realize that we are regularly bombarded with anime,manga,cartoon,Game-characture types of wallpapers and logons, so unless it make me yell "OMGWTFBBQPUDDING!!! I got to have that". it's not often I give a thumbs up..

 

As for the logon, again originality comes in to play, again the Game-characture'ish type of image as well as it not being totaly of your own making weighes heavily,in the virdict.  With fewer mod's voting in this que the outcome can often be different than it's wall counterpart.

One must keep in mind the Mods selected for each Que have abundant experience in that particular area and we stand by their decisions.

Please remember, Mod's are Masters too. The works uploaded to the ques for moderation are not being judged by some inexperienced new comer..

 

Thanks... HG

Reply #38 Top

Why was my skin approved later than others, even though I submitted before them?

recently we had a case of many accessories being uploaded for the same blind and someone wondering why others were appearing in the gallery before theirs...

it turns out they were unaware that journeymen & masters have their submissions uploaded straight into the gallery... so it kinda looked like they were being left behind, 'til explained...

 

 

 

Reply #39 Top

Quoting Fuzzy, reply 34

A soapbox for asking the public for an appraisal of your work is not the intent of this thread. These things never fly straight. They seldom go in the desired direction.


Indeed. I find it frustrating to not be able to award less than ½ star

 You know when I first started tough moderation was hard to swallow,.....

I remember having a windowblind rejected (from a certain very logical individual) because........ New skinners pay close attention........

There wre old unused wb4 block files from my previous skin and a couple unused graphics

  I was told "If (insert a very logical mod) moderates your WB it better be correct with no unsed data or parts cause he will open the WB folder and check all the contents!"

I remember thinking well basically ERRRRRRRR......

  HOWEVER

I cleaned the skin folder (back before there was a clean my skin button in SKS)

My upload went from over 2MB down to less than 1MB I thought WOW...

I have never not cleaned a skin folder ever again ....

Tough Mods = Better Quality

Without Fail Every Time

Thanks for the tough love Fuzzy!

Harley

 

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Reply #40 Top

Quoting theAVMAN, reply 39
clean my skin button in SKS)

My upload went from over 2MB down to less than 1MB I thought WOW...

[So that's what that does.  I foresee my WB directory shrinking substantially via the deletion of unneeded substyles and subsequent cleaning. Thanks for that tip. :beer: ]

Reply #41 Top

Quoting DaveRI, reply 40



Quoting theAVMAN,
reply 39
clean my skin button in SKS)My upload went from over 2MB down to less than 1MB I thought WOW...


[So that's what that does.  I foresee my WB directory shrinking substantially via the deletion of unneeded substyles and subsequent cleaning. Thanks for that tip. ]

Dave I suggest once your WB is complete make a wba package make a copy put somewhere then the clean skin button because the action CAN NOT be undone that way if there is a glitch or there was a mistake somewhere and SKS deletes a used image or part you have a back up ready to install .

Note: Me personally I still open my WB folder delete everything I need to 1 item at at time (old school) that way I personally see everychange .

The clean skin button reads the the code for the skin and deletes anything not used in the code .

But since I can't see it , it makes me tooooooo nervous LOL.....

Reply #42 Top

Just part of the reason he's a Master skinner. The rest has to do with just plain Harley.  :congrat:

Reply #43 Top

Moderators can be tough and help people to follow the right direction. But at the end of the day all the skill you see in making a skin is down to the skinner ;) A Master is a Master for a very good reason ;)

This is why it grates when someone just pulls an image off the net and thinks they are being creative. That takes no skill at all.

Reply #44 Top

Quoting theAVMAN, reply 41
Dave I suggest once your WB is complete make a wba package make a copy put somewhere then the clean skin button because the action CAN NOT be undone that way if there is a glitch or there was a mistake somewhere and SKS deletes a used image or part you have a back up ready to install .

I've taken that one step further -- I've taken the Diamond base skin, cleaned it up of all substyles that I don't skin for, removed all unnecessary images, renamed that skin "Test 1" and use that as my base skin, saving my changes over the images that are left, so there's nothing to clean (although I do run the cleaner anyway just in case I've missed something or accidentally renamed some image with a typo).  I also always create a .wba file after every successful skinning session, in case the next skinning session is unsuccessful and I have to revert back to the previous version (this is my way have creating a restore point to my creation).

Reply #45 Top

In the past there's been some 'strangely' huge WB skins submitted....and once looked into were found to contain the psd files used in making the images.

That's definitely NOT clever since retaining the psd's is the sure-fire way of proving whose property it is.

If you 'release' them you expose yourself to some miscreant using them as 'proof' HE created it....;)

Reply #46 Top

Quoting Jafo, reply 45
In the past there's been some 'strangely' huge WB skins submitted....and once looked into were found to contain the psd files used in making the images.

That's definitely NOT clever since retaining the psd's is the sure-fire way of proving whose property it is.

If you 'release' them you expose yourself to some miscreant using them as 'proof' HE created it....

 

Now that is funny.....lol.

Reply #47 Top

Quoting Jafo, reply 45
In the past there's been some 'strangely' huge WB skins submitted....and once looked into were found to contain the psd files used in making the images.

Oh,like this 24MB monster? Lots of psd's .   https://www.wincustomize.com/explore/windowblinds/7780/

Reply #48 Top

on a lighter note,

my sister is the only woman i know who can stand on an "i speak your weight" machine

and it says "one at a time please"