Rich Rich

Upates to Software

Upates to Software

Impulse/Website

I've seen a lot of complaints/questions lately about having to download upgraded apps from the website because Impulse is basically defunct now.  I've often wondered why the Stardock fleet of software doesn't update itself?  All of the software that I have checks to see if an update is available and then downloads and installs the update.  Not so with our Stardock software.  If I buy WB then WB should check itself to see if it has an update available.  I shouldn't have to check a website or a different software package (impulse) for this. This is 2011, the 21st century and I feel like it's 1995 still with Stardock software. Anyone have a thought as to why the software packages do not update themselves or if this is something in the wings now that Impulse is gone?

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Reply #51 Top

JC - why not pm the devs and ask them the reasoning behind not doing what you have suggested?

Reiterating the question here isn't going to give you the answer you seek, and it's a reasonable question... solve it in the most efficient manner possible and open to you. If I had the answer, heck, I'd tell you.

Reply #52 Top

Quoting Daiwa, reply 46
I found the convenience of checking for all app updates in one place at my leisure to be preferable. Impulse Now served the purpose of 'instant' notifications quite well for those who wanted them; I did not. I would like SD to provide both options - an Impulse-like app manager and individual app downloads/updates by links; then (almost) everybody's happy. 0.02. YMMV

 

Yeah - I love the option of just hitting "update all" or cherry-picking amongst them if I feel like it - also, the fact that, with Impulse, it would let you know that they (the updates) were there, but nothing that popped up and said you had to update.  Just a little yellow balloon that basically said, "Hey, here are some updates, click that button if you want to update."

No hunting around, nothing intrusive - just convenience. 

Reply #53 Top

Quoting DrJBHL, reply 51
JC - why not pm the devs and ask them the reasoning behind not doing what you have suggested?

Reiterating the question here isn't going to give you the answer you seek, and it's a reasonable question... solve it in the most efficient manner possible and open to you. If I had the answer, heck, I'd tell you.

Doc I am not going to say anymore about it after this and I was not really posing a question. I will not mind the solution Stardock comes up with. I was simply saying that another program to update other programs is not necessary based on the arguments for it. There are not enough constant updates to be annoying, not everyone has every Stardock software installed and for those who do simply turning off notifications and automatic updates would give people the option to check and install them.

Perhaps it is easier for the developers to create and maintain an all in one program. If that is the case then so be it.

Reply #54 Top

It's not so much the prompts, but the frequency of new versions.  :grin:

Shoulda said it annoys me rather than 'drives me crazy' 'cause that's closer to reality.  Others may dispute the craziness part.

Reply #55 Top

Quoting Island, reply 27

Quoting c242, reply 26This mess with selling Impulse, then letting it discontinue Object Desktop support and having NOTHING ready to replace it shows the state Stardock development is in and the care for customers perfectly.

The replacement is right here, which is what people asked for since we released Impulse to be honest.

https://store.stardock.com/login.aspx?ReturnUrl=/myaccount/products

 

 

This is a replacement? So I never know when a new version is available and I have to go through each app to check which version I am on? I cant even tell which beta version of tiles im on there is no version on the about window. And was was fine with impulse I dont think you asked everyone what they wanted I still am running impluse.

 

Derekuda

Reply #56 Top

Maybe this would be a good time for SD to regularize their versioning system so that what the app reports in 'About' matches what the website/download manager shows.  They've never been the same and that has been a burr in my saddle from day 1.

Reply #57 Top

Quoting RedneckDude, reply 25
Myself, I'd be very content with something like SDC with IRC integrated, like was said above.  I liked SDC and the WCBrowser just fine.

Yes.  Revive it.  NOW.

The alternative is some slick interface like Impulse that what? Get's all built up, running smooth and then bought by who? Google maybe. They could lump Rainmeter and Google Gadgets into it. And then we're back to this and someone is bitching we've been through this before. No one will be happy. We may have to take to the forums and blogs every Friday in mass protest. No one will be working because they'll be protesting. And then others will join. Spouses and children of skinners. HG will be ordering pizzas for everyone. They'll organize on G+ and suggest things. Storming the offices of SD. Island Dog will probably be the first to fall cause he just won't accept that it's happening.  Zubaz will be leading them all dressed in some obscene zubazish outfit. God! The whole of the revolution could end up adorned in Zubaz uniforms!!!!!!! They'll defile Brads Porsche in Zubaz designs!!!!!! IT"LL BE ANARCHY!!!!!!  

SDC

SDC

SDC

SDC

SDC

Reply #58 Top

Stardock Central was just fine. Maybe it could be improved/added to in some small way, but I still prefer it to Impulse. I miss the WinCustomize browser as well.

Reply #59 Top

I don't care how they do it be it SDC or some other way Just as long as we can install the app's without Archiving like with they had with SDC you got direct download links .. then they come out with Impulse and took away the direct DL links and kept it quiet (as in it was NOT on Stardock.com) to new or renew users.

that after a year if you did not Archive (from Impulsedrive or driven) you lost your Programs you bought if you did or had to do a reformat till people started making post I can't install my app's after not renewing and all they got was well you should have Archived ... and yet they, never did tell you on Stardock that you had to... 

"When you purchase Object Desktop, you automatically get a 1-year subscription to ObjectDesktop.net and not only get all of the features Object Desktop has today, but all of the features for a full year.

This means you will receive all updates and new programs added to Object Desktop throughout the year automatically. What you download is yours forever and at the end of the year, you can continue your subscription or stick with what you already have." 

"At the end of the year, users can renew their access to keep getting new updates (and if they don't, they can continue to use what they have forever)."

but it don't say you have to Archive or tell you how. which to me is wrong!

 

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and it still states you have to have

Impulse must be installed in order to download and update software

and it still is telling you, you get some of the Discontinued App's

as in

Enhanced File Dialog

ObjectEdit

and some others

need to update the site and the documents stop misleading customers...

 

Reply #60 Top

Personaly i like the wy stardock products handle their updates you dont get bugged with nagy popups that scream at your face that there is a tiny 500 kb update :D
I do hate that on my antivirus software if you are busy gaming or even when i sculpt in ZBrush and i have to be concentrated and you get pulled back to your desktop right in the middle of your work is just annoying. Gladly this doesnt happen with Stardock products.
But i also would like to have the little info at impulse back where impulse showed you a 1 at the taskicon if there was an update available.

Reply #61 Top

Something will replace the current system (download links) and hopefully sooner than later.  It should allow for easy, unobtrusive updates (without rewriting or adding code to ever SD app).

Reply #62 Top

Maybe this time they'll learn their lesson and not automatically add itself into startup.  :cylon: Looking forward to "SDC 3.0."

Reply #63 Top

Quoting Bebi, reply 62
Maybe this time they'll learn their lesson and not automatically add itself into startup

Well every half clever user was able to switch that off...

Reply #64 Top

True....but it would definitely cut down on all the "omg Stardock is nothing but evil malware!" posts. No need to follow in the path of Adobe...seriously. Stardock is/should be better than that.

Reply #65 Top

Quoting Bebi, reply 64
but it would definitely cut down on all the "omg Stardock is nothing but evil malware!" posts.

But those are my FAVorite posts!!!!!!!

I love hearing how windowblinds borkewd an entire system and sent everything crashing. My favorite ones are where they blame the designers. No wait, my absolute fav's are the ones where they call Brad evil and blame him for filling all the software with Trojans. I love to sit back with a cup of coffee and troll the thread after it's built up a bit. 

I love when they respond that they know more about computers than anyone here. How they practically  helped build Big Blue and have had ideas stolen from them by Apple.

But the best, the absolute best is when you ask them to cut and paste their system info from WIndowblinds and they suddenly get very quiet.  Then they paste something that someone has to pint out is an outdated version and they ask 'Where did you get your copy of windowblinds?' ! That's when it gets really good.

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Reply #66 Top

Quoting PoSmedley, reply 65
But the best, the absolute best is when you ask them to cut and paste their system info from WIndowblinds and they suddenly get very quiet.  Then they paste something that someone has to pint out is an outdated version and they ask 'Where did you get your copy of windowblinds?' ! That's when it gets really good.

Somebody finally understands doc. Bravo, Po'. TY.

Reply #67 Top

The only objection I have to downloading updates from the Stardock Store is the absence of release dates. If this info was provided, I would know if said update was new or not, yes? If this info was given, I would be happy with the current system indefinitely. Yes, I can check the About... box in individual apps, but that is most inconvenient and cumbersome. I would be most grateful if this item were addressed. I am and will continue to be a loyal paid supporter of both Stardock (OD) and WC. Here's hoping the best still lies ahead!

:sun:

Reply #68 Top

Hey all, I am now a casualty from between the Impulse days and recently renewed my OD registration and found I could no longer use impulse to check for updates of installed apps. after going back and forth with the SD people I had to go and manually download everything I want to use or manually check in my account to see if any thing is newer than what I now have installed. What a pain in my...tookus, backside, Arse..Ect...Ect.!

If the past going from SDC to Impulse is any indication of time warp we'll all be in till they come up with new working version of SDC, (hint) plus the lack of telling their customers what they are doing to replace impulse with? we will be waiting like we did for Starcraft II...Just saying.

Reply #69 Top

Nothing like putting the proverbial cart before the horse. The proper way to conduct business would have been to have an alternate download system in place to take over as soon as Impulse was sold. Hope this gets sorted out alot quicker than the site issues that have been hanging out for several months. :meow:

Reply #70 Top

Quoting Frankief, reply 69
Nothing like putting the proverbial cart before the horse. The proper way to conduct business would have been to have an alternate download system in place to take over as soon as Impulse was sold. Hope this gets sorted out alot quicker than the site issues that have been hanging out for several months.

It's easy to say the "proper way should have...", but in reality when you work with limited resources on a multitude of projects, building a new notification/download system and properly testing it isn't something you do in just a couple of months.  

Again, the minor site issues here have absolutely nothing to do with the development of an app.  Two different things completely.

 

Reply #71 Top

Geez, that was kinda my point! The sight issues that were caused by an update to the forums have been going on for about eight months now and yet they should be an easy fix compared to developing an app. If it takes this long to get something that should be fairly easy to fix done, how long will it take to get a major project done? Just sayiong that the sale of Impulse was not a spur of the moment thing and in reality a replacement should have been in place before the transaction took place. The sight issues may seem minor to folks who are not experiencing them but those of us who are may not see them as so "minor". I just know that I need to renew my subscription soon and wonder how that will affect Impulse working for me. Sorry to hear you are all stretched so thin! :meow: >_>

Reply #72 Top

Quoting Frankief, reply 71
Just sayiong that the sale of Impulse was not a spur of the moment thing and in reality a replacement should have been in place before the transaction took place.

Transactions are involved with two or more parties, I can't imagine one party would wait for another while they work on another project.

Once you resubscribe, Impulse is not going to be supported in your account.  That is part of the phase-out.

Downloads are here - https://store.stardock.com/login.aspx?ReturnUrl=/myaccount/products