insane damage

and nothing, ever, at any point of the game is allowed to defeat a UB. Ever. 

It is the one rule of demigod and even a single exception to this rule will result in GAY MARRIAGE BEING LEGALIZED. 

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u mean at level 15 when qot gets acclimation? lol

Cow can finally get married ?  !! Yay!!!

You can say whatever you want but it happened.. And it wasnt a bad ub as well his only problem was that he wasnt fed by my teamates. He used like 7 sigils  and he didnt even had time to port out i got his health down so quick lol... he cudnt  grasp me i was just harassing him so bad throughout the game. And when i got fell-darkur it was all over With spikes maxed and that slowing thing all he cud was keep running back to base cose he cudnt get to me and cudnt deal with my minions.

Did you have Shamblers?

Every DG without a good AoE damage has problems with lots of minions, thats not something specific to UB. Besides that a health and armor stacked Ooze UB with Post Mortem should still eat you also at later stages. So maybe there is more to it than just QoT being so much better than UB late stage.

The UB sucked is all it is...

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i know that but i mentioned ub cose he is supossed to be the most op dg out there. And yeah i had idols maxed out and shamblers.

Post Mortem? lol it only deals 150 damage and even with plague, my minions deal too much damage ub just does not have time to deal with them. even if he kills some i can just summon them again and by that time he wud be dead. Also stacked armour doesnt help against queen cose by level 10 ull be down by 1500 armour if i hit u with groundspikes. With fell-darkur im dealing you 1k damage in 1 sec and thats without the critical hits.

Heres a question.: is it possible for your armour to go below 0 so u wud take extra damage?

Yep. You saw towers have 0 armor, but when you use ground spikes, you deal more damage (negative armor). That negative armor probably increases damage as great as armor increases damage reduction. In combination with giants (who deal 3-4 k damage to towers per hit to ground spiked towers/citadel) and other troops, this takes down citadel in seconds if unprotected.

Also I think QoT is easily the best demigod with strong grunts (when giants deal enormous damage and have 5k hp) just because of that negative armor on troops/buildings.

Wow. minus 1500 armour is huge blow then no wonder im winning fights 1v2 with queen. I dealt 1.1k damage with queen with 1 hit first i thougth it was a bug but now i see how it was possible (had fell-darkur)

So to sum up: Early game only erebus can be her equal in 1v1 fight for flag but with good micro he can be beaten too. Mid game: if u dont have to buy cur and fs and u got going with idols she is the strongest dg for sure.(can easily stop rook push) Late game:only ub can be a threat 1v1 but if u have fell-darkur then with micro he can be beaten too.

Lol queen is the most underrated dg out there.

Qot can surely have some pushing power here and there.  And her survivability is pretty decent as long as its not a 3v3 with her being the primary target.  A bit more of the weakness becomes apparent in 3v3 situations with good players on each team.  A fun dg to play with no doubt, though. 

Ye i agree if all 3 target queen its hard to survive. However with spike wave and boots of speed you can get away if you pay attention and the good thing is that u keep dealing damage with minions while u are running so they chasing you dealing no damage while all 3 of u do deal damage to them. And if u do get stuck in 3v3 fights u still win most of them cose she just deals so much more damage in so little time.

That's the biggest downside to qot is that in a 3v3, unless there is a reg on your team, etc, qot quickly becomes the primary target in most circumstances as she generally has lowest hp.  And she can only run so fast.  You don't see many games where qot ends up with jtreads.  Then take into account a batswarm+lv 2-4 stun (which she obviously can't get away from, followed by X, followed by Silence, etc.  That's not to say that she can't be played incredibly well.  No arguments at all that she can deal out quite a bit of punishment - and on a good team, that extra dmg + slow is huge. 

Not quite sure what sort of QoT build you are using anyway.  At any rate, keep playing her and beat up folks that underrate her as possible. 

What about oak? with qot u put 6 points in enhanced attributes and the rest in spikes and that slowing skill if i remember right.. A minion oak that takes 6 enhanced attributes, spirits and penitence will beat your qot easily if played smart enough because of the spirits.

Minion builds were always strong but the problem is that once u get caught your usually dead if nobody comes to help u. Also u cant win 2v1 unless they are maybe reg and da

oak has no chance in 1v1 your spirits need that boost at level 15 till then tehy dont do much they are i wud say useless till then. Also you cudnt hit me once i wud just keep backing away and i have boots of speed plus the slowing thing. im just faster then u and your armour is gone so u cant do much other then back away. Also problem with spirits is that they are just too much trouble. They are hard to control and need grunt to summon them. Id say with same gear and if i let u hit me id still win cose of the groundspike. oaks skill doesnt grant as much extra damage as spikes and i wud get ur health down much quicker However oak has shield so that wud make it more interesting for sure. Other problem with oak is that it levels really slow. and oak is best at lategame. However queen doesnt need much leveling to deal out huge damage to towers and dgs if u use same build as i do

Oh and pacov! In 3v3 fights it doesnt really matter wat dg u are (other then ereb or oak) if they target you first you either kill your target or they kill you. This happened to me quite a lot but we always got the first kill in these situations.

ub is not really op, problem is everyone is terrible at this game. Watch the koreans play and they will show you how balanced this game can be.

lol oak is not hard to level. when u have boots of speed and fell darkur and whatsoever then u probly never have more than 4k hp at any time of the game. oak can even push you out of the lane when hes at the crystal because spirits and idols do so much dmg u can maybe stand there for 5 secs and then u have to back up... also a minion oak wouldnt let you hit him with ground spikes.. theres no way that minion qot is stronger than minion oak..

im aware that in 1v1 oak wud win against queen. No doubt. I wasnt talking about 1v1 all along i was referring to 1v1 situations in 2v2 or 3v3. Lets face it oak is never the one to go mana solo in 3v3 and is usually the most degmiod behind in levels till around level 10. Also usually oak has to get cur1 so u cant really get your idiols going that fast. My queen build doesnt work if she has to get cur1. And nnils you really xpect to win against queen with only your idols on me. That wudnt work U wud have to be near the action and theres now way u cudnt hit at least once with spikes. Anyway i have only lost 1 game with queen since i got this build going so that shud tell u something

Oh and why wud you go minion oak in 2v2 or 3v3 when an assasin oak is so much better? I havent lost to minion oak not even once when i was oak myself. Assasin oak does much better with less money so no point going minion oak.