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What Do You Think About An “Emergency Off Switch” For The Internet?

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What Do You Think About An “Emergency Off Switch” For The Internet?

from JoeUser Forums

 

In light of the recent events in Egypt where we saw an “Emergency Off Switch” used for the first time, my memory was jarred.

Last year, Senator Joe Lieberman (Independent, Connecticut) proposed just such a switch. He did so because of concerns regarding a cyberattack on the USA.

Just two hours ago, NYConvergence (a tech magazine for the NY, NJ and CT area) reported Sen. Lieberman wants to re-propose this legislation ( LINK ).

There are several ways to look at this: Security, freedom, abuse potential… and others.

I’d like to hear what you folks think: Do you favor an Internet “On-Off” switch? Under what conditions? Who should have that power and when? Who should be able to stop or review such a decision?

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Reply #101 from WinCustomize Forums Top

(Totalitarian) governments (will) tend to rely on internet off switches because it's one of the most used communication platforms these days.
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But our's isn't Totalitarian... As a rapid prevention from cyberattack ... I'm not certain I object.

Reply #102 from JoeUser Forums Top

Quoting DrJBHL, reply 101

But our's isn't Totalitarian... As a rapid prevention from cyberattack ... I'm not certain I object.
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Even with the most favorable candidate imaginable occupying the office, I am certain I object.  I have yet to see anyone immune from the infection of power.

Power corrupts, Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Siege of Centauri
Reply #103 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

But our's isn't Totalitarian... As a rapid prevention from cyberattack ... I'm not certain I object.
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I object because such a system is not targeted against a cyberattack so much as a popular uprising.

Reply #105 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

I bet it'll blow up in their face. Maybe even get some international activity. It looked like they were gonna squash the protests, but now I'm not so sure.

Reply #106 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Libya is a place that needs change... but I hope not the wrong change. Those people have suffered enough.

Reply #107 from WinCustomize Forums Top

The only one who can decide pulling something like this is the government or pres..
Also the providers have to give thumbs up since the satellite´s belong to them http://www.gearthblog.com/satellites.html to much to explain actually we have nothing to say in that sort of situation. Its not up to us if it would happen or NOT

I’m sure it would be possible if they w. claim that some sort of life threatening attack is possible, enough people would be accepting without even thinking.

An off switch well: I think if they achieve that and if they find enough dumb polite humans this would be a wonderful thing: they would have a little more control again...
and thats what this is all about of having the biggest on the table.


To the fact that they claim to avoid attacks uhm?! what are those firewalls for again !? To avoid such things?? someone screaming: "Oh not safe enough"
then block your god damn ports or secure them properly i say.
Someone again "Not safe enough" well then get yourself a more secure operating system that’s not public.

Also i doubt if we are attacked that someone would want to steal your private photos from back in the 2006 or your mp3´s.
And i doubt that military or secret investigations running their servers on a windows Linux Ubuntu sort of based OS.(while the attack is surely based on them not a 0815 household)i think an plausible attack would be a lets say superserver in this case.i think they should be smart enough to have something special as OS and if someone is capable to crack that it would be a f...genius and there are like 55-100 people in the world able to pull of something like that...But since you have to get access to those cut off servers personally its unlikely to ever happen...

And also if its not one of them pro´s risking their live for an attack like that then it must be some sort of more intelligent life form and if so were F anyway good luck with your Power Switch 


And i know No OS is nulletproof there is always a way in or a backdoor entrance but like i said someone capable to get access to that must be a pro and those are very well known.(also i doubt that they would go crazy and start attacking humanity)
Also this is whole idea is totally nonsense if you think about it pulling down public satellites ok but if you shut down the whole thing security satellite´s and  also secret agency satt´s involved makes no sense how could you be safe at that point ? what would you do when there would be an lets say incoming atomic attack meanwhile? Its like wrapping your head with aluminum foil to be safe of radioactive contamination with the hope to be invisible for the BOMB. Also thinking about the riot activity caused by that action as soon as the www is not reachable...
If you dont like it that you cannot have control about humanity spreading information via the www you should have pulled the plug years ago...its to late for that now

Reply #108 from Elemental Forums Top

If the internet was not shut off, we would be getting word from numerous people on the streets telling us what is REALLY going on.  That is the risk the governments think they can't afford.  That's what this is all about:  propaganda, pure and simple.   I've gotten word from someone in Egypt, what is really gong on there is NOTHING like what we're hearing in the media.   The media keeps saying "Tahrir Square, Tahirir Square", and that's not even where all the action is.  The action is in Mahmoud Square.  But you don't hear anybody reporting on that.    For that matter, we keep hearing how it is not safe for western journalists over there.   What the media fails to tell you is WHY western journalists keep getting attacked.

Reply #109 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

And why are they getting attacked?

Reply #110 from WinCustomize Forums Top

What the media fails to tell you is WHY western journalists keep getting attacked.
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I don't give a fat rat's ass why some maroon with a 3rd rate 3rd grade education thinks he's entitled to attack a male journalist or kill one and rape a female Journalist while screaming, "Jew, Jew". It's because he's a violent control freak, islamo-fascist swine.

Too bad my old unit wasn't there when that woman was attacked. Would have turned out an s-load different.

Would have demonstrated the real "off switch"  to them. They are beneath contempt.

 

Reply #111 from WinCustomize Forums Top

What the media fails to tell you is WHY western journalists keep getting attacked
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There is absolutely no reason whatsoever to attack any media person whether they are from the Eastern - Middle Eastern - or Western.

 

Reply #112 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Right on.    k6

 

Reply #113 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

I don't give a fat rat's ass why some maroon with a 3rd rate 3rd grade education thinks he's entitled to attack a male journalist or kill one and rape a female Journalist while screaming, "Jew, Jew". It's because he's a violent control freak, islamo-fascist swine.

Too bad my old unit wasn't there when that woman was attacked. Would have turned out an s-load different.

Would have demonstrated the real "off switch" to them. They are beneath contempt.
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You seem to be going off in a number of different directions. I do not have the time or any real desire to figure out what out of that is from an actual story and what is hypothetical, but I do know it was the Mubarak camp that was accused of abusing journalists, not the protesters, and they did it in a very institutionalized way- not the mob-style incident you seem to be describing. That sounds more like the sexual-harassment case that just broke- which, although obviously really kind of nasty, is unfortunately common all over the world, usually in less developed countries but in the United States as well.

Reply #114 from WinCustomize Forums Top

You seem to be going off in a number of different directions.
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Nope. Just one. And I don't care who did/does/will do it.

I do know it was the Mubarak camp that was accused of abusing journalists, not the protesters, and they did it in a very institutionalized way- not the mob-style incident you seem to be describing.
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Again: Don't care. Just sorry my men and I weren't there. They'd have stopped running when they hit Tobruk (the ones still able to run, that is). I didn't describe anything anything, Scoutdog.

That sounds more like the sexual-harassment case that just broke
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Sounds like a gang bang. Sounds like a mob of hateful, antisemitic gang raping swine. Too bad we weren't there to teach them what "bang" really sounds like... from the business end of "behavior modification devices".

They (whoever they are or might be in the future, and where ever) are the scum of the earth. End of them, end of the story.

 

Reply #116 from Sins Forums Top

The net was invented to share files between to universities in the states. I don't think they had any idea of the Pandora's box they opened.

Too bad we weren't there to teach them what "bang" really sounds like... from the business end of "behavior modification devices". 
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Reply #118 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting aunteachrist, reply 115
What does the internet's creator have to say about all of this?
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Reply #119 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Oh please, just flip the switch all ready.  :O

Reply #120 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

You seem to be going off in a number of different directions.

Nope. Just one. And I don't care who did/does/will do it.

I do know it was the Mubarak camp that was accused of abusing journalists, not the protesters, and they did it in a very institutionalized way- not the mob-style incident you seem to be describing.

Again: Don't care. Just sorry my men and I weren't there. They'd have stopped running when they hit Tobruk (the ones still able to run, that is). I didn't describe anything anything, Scoutdog.

That sounds more like the sexual-harassment case that just broke

Sounds like a gang bang. Sounds like a mob of hateful, antisemitic gang raping swine. Too bad we weren't there to teach them what "bang" really sounds like... from the business end of "behavior modification devices".

They (whoever they are or might be in the future, and where ever) are the scum of the earth. End of them, end of the story.

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Hey, hey, I'm just trying to gather information here, learn about sides of the story other than the official media line to help me decide what the truth of the matter actually is. But you seem to be getting angry at me. And, you don't seem to be making that much sense.

Reply #122 from WinCustomize Forums Top

But you seem to be getting angry at me.
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Fact: A mob of Egyptians assaulted a female journalist sexually. I don't care which 'camp' they beloned to. I'd have terminated them on the spot and charged their families for the ammo.

Not angry with you however you miss the point totally. It matters not "why" they did it. It matters not "who" or how many. It was 100% wrong. Understand? Action: Termination on the spot. No justifications.

This is not a game. This happened to a real life person, and has happened as part of their degenerate culture that objectifies females, dresses them in 'female containment devices' and mutilates them with 'surgery' designed to make them faithful to their inadequate, twisted 'males'.

I'm just trying to gather information here, learn about sides of the story other than the official media line to help me decide what the truth of the matter actually is.
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Post#120.

I do not have the time or any real desire to figure out what out of that is from an actual story and what is hypothetical
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Post#113.

Since you seem...conflicted... here's what happened: A violent, vicious, unprovoked and unjustifiable attack was perpetrated on a fellow human being by a mob of semi/illiterate beasts. They raped her. No more needs be said except I'm sorry I wasn't there with my platoon. The criminals would have found out what violence is all about...

Done explaining the obvious.

I think it's time to end this OT discussion.

 

Reply #124 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting aunteachrist, reply 123
DR., the funny comment was meant for you. That got a good laugh out of me.
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Not understanding.... what about a mob antisemitic, sexual attack on a person is funny?