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Incest is Best

So much for the Nay Sayers

http://spectator.org/blog/2010/12/10/but-they-were-consenting-adult
from JoeUser Forums

One of the arguments advanced by the left about homosexual marriage is that the government should not be legislating sex between consenting adults.  A counter to that is "what about incest" or even polygamy, beastiality, etc.  They have "poo-pooed" those objections as being extremist and stupid and diverting the discussion.

Unfortunately for them, their own words are their doom.  For now we have David Epstein - a loony loopy Luddite liberal - from columbia university that has decided incest is best!  He has carried on a 4 year affair with his daughter!

My revulsion for this sick demented twisted idiot knows no bounds!  As a father to 2 girls, the revulsion I feel for this man is beyond words.  As much as I hate and detest pedophilia (his daughter was of legal age - this is a sidebar), I find incest to be as equally if not more abhorrent.  Yet the liberal "brains filled with mush" idiots at columbia are defending this pervert!  How?  "Sex between consenting adults should be allowed".

So the next time some loony loopy Luddite leftist tries to derail a debate with the sad, tired, and false line of "it will not happen for animals, daughters, or menageries - one has only to point to the Liberal idiots of Columbia to show that - yes it will.

It all goes to show that you still do not need a brain to be a liberal.  Indeed, lobotomies seem to be an asset to being a liberal.

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Reply #26 from JoeUser Forums Top

Quoting lulapilgrim, reply 23
Likewise, lulapilgrim basically argues that parent-child incest is wrong because it is wrong, without attacking me personally, however (Thanks btw.). That again is a personal opinion and not a valid argument (in absence of hard data it's perfectly fine to speculate).

No, that incest is objectively wrong and for that reason causes harm is not a personal opinion. It's valid because every person has a hardwired sense of right and wrong. We know interiorly when we are doing wrong and our conscience rebukes our conduct. People inherently know that incest is wrong and therefore harmful.
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True, the majority of humans seem to be hardwired to avoid incestuous relationship. And there's a good biological reason for that, no argument there.

"What harm is done to anyone in an incestuous consensual relationship, if any?"


Egads! "If any?" 

OKay. I'll rattle off a few....Incest causes psychological, moral, familial, societal and spritual harm. Incest is incompatible with the moral, familial and social order.

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 Well, the couple seems perfectly cheery about it. Although I can't imagine that his wive is thrilled about his mistress. Now that they are out in the open, the harm done to them is great on all fronts, indeed. And during the time they were living in sin, they had to be worried about getting caught. But apart from that worry, do you think the girl suffered?

 

Reply #27 from JoeUser Forums Top

Quoting Daiwa, reply 17
To answer your question: None to you - if you're not a member of the family in question.

Finding such statistics from studies would be a tad difficult, if they could be conducted at all.  They would necessarily start with the assumption that parent-child incest is acceptable until & unless 'harm' is proven.  Then you have the issue of defining what constitutes harm.  And to be valid, the subjects of the study could not know they were in it.  Such a study, if it could be pulled off, would rank up there with the Tuskeegee Experiment.  Maybe up there with Dr. Mengele.

This is the moral relativist's refuge - everything is OK until 'proven' wrong.  Especially when 'proof' is impossible.  Easy way out.
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In no way would or did I suggest to conduct incest experiments!

There's actually no need to do so anyway. One has only to look at history and different cultures, where incest is or was less of a taboo than it is in our culture. 19th century Hawaii, for example. Or royality in general.

 

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Reply #28 from Stardock Forums Top

Well, the couple seems perfectly cheery about it.
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I don't know anything more about Epstein and his daughter other than a few news blurbs and what DrG has written here.

One article reported the sex affair lasted from 2006 to 2009.

They may "seem" perfectly cheery, but what's really going on as a result is he's facing  one count of third degree incest, and on administrative leave.  

Although I can't imagine that his wive is thrilled about his mistress. Now that they are out in the open, the harm done to them is great on all fronts, indeed. And during the time they were living in sin, they had to be worried about getting caught. But apart from that worry, do you think the girl suffered?
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The wife, other family members, friends and professional acquaintainces, etc.  Neither one will ever be able to look at these people in the same way now that's "the cat is out of the bag".

And during the time they were living in sin, they had to be worried about getting caught. But apart from that worry, do you think the girl suffered?
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Yes, even if the sexual activity was consensual, there is no such thing as benign consequences.

  

 

Reply #29 from JoeUser Forums Top

Quoting heil_stardock, reply 27
In no way would or did I suggest to conduct incest experiments!

There's actually no need to do so anyway. One has only to look at history and different cultures, where incest is or was less of a taboo than it is in our culture. 19th century Hawaii, for example. Or royality in general.
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Yes you did - by trying to excuse or justify it.  We are already on the slippery slope as demonstrated by your "feeling" responses that have no relation to reality.

NAMBLA is your organization.  They are not trying to legalize the rape of infants - yet.  They know that first they just lower the age of consent - and then lower and lower it.  in other words, once you breach the dike, you do not have to pull it down all at once.  The slow trickle will wear it away until there is no protection left to the innocent.