WHY HAVE YOU FOLLOWED ME HERE, CURSED STALKER-BEING?!

Uhh, your number system is your flaw, dude...just sayin...if you judge the entire rating simply on the superficial, that's where you went wrong.

-Twi

It isn't my point system. I merely play the game. The point system works on the initial meeting phase of a relationship. I am not saying it works on any other level. The rest is highly individual. But getting past the point system is step one. 

I find that there is much truth in this points system. So many people are going for prestige when they choose a date, at least at my age, but I think that the one flaw in the system is that it assumes that first date will be the first time that a pair will meet, or that they first meet with any intention of a relationship. Knowing somebody before you date them means that you must like them for their personality (otherwise you wouldn't be friends with them, right?) and so the superficial ratings system is overpowered.

Of course, you are right in many ways, especially seeing as there is this idea that you can't know your date well, therefore you have to date somebody when you've only recently met. I personally (though these are just the words of a naive 16-year-old) don't approach a girl with the expectation of going out, but on the premise of "that's how you get to know people." If there's somebody I like it'll be because I got to know them, not because I saw them from across a room and went "she's fit."

/Rant.

So yeah, welcome to the Chatroom. Or back to the Chatroom, I can't remember all the people who've passed through here.

I guess age is a factor. I am somewhat older. Trying to change a friend relationship to something else has so many random effects. The point system is only a partial factor for friendship and may even be thrown out the window when attempting to switch over. I enjoy the point system immensely as it is one of most predictable human universalities. There are only so many parts of us that reflect the games we play.

People aren't objects, they're personalities. Until you figure that out, you'll probably never have a successful relationship!

Define relationship.

There are many who approach the opposite party based on looks, figure, etc. Many would define the week-long-dating and one-night-stand culture as relationships. These are based almost purely on a "points" system.

A "proper" relationship is love, not lust. That's how I roll. Or would roll, if I tried.

Going off-topic, I've basically called off the re-union and asked her if she wants to go see a film with me anyway. I just thought it was better that way. I also don't want those fickle "maybes" to turn up to our film-for-two now that we've basically said it's our day out.

@KrdaxDrkrun,

I realize that. I am merely being scientific in my analysis of personalities. I didn't mean to give the impression I objectify people. But there is a system to starting a relationship. It functions like an equation and plays like a game. Knowing a little about that game comforts and gives confidence when playing. 

I have had several successful relationships.

@Oatesy03,

I would be amused to find out that your date turned reunion in some sort of situational comedy shenanigan. 

I am empathic; I understand people, so I have little need of science, I am just rather skeptical of your approach because you do seem to objectifying people, something that I have little tolerance for.

Relationships are games of a sort, but I believe that science and math have little to do with it...

Define successful relationship? Are you married? That's what I would call successful.

@Oatesy, a relationship, at least to me, is a bond that you have with anyone that requires time and effort to be spent toward strengthening it. A relationship can be friend, best friend, enemy, rival, girlfriend/boyfriend, husband, or wife. Generally only one form will exist, as others are a little bit contradictory.

enemy<rival<friend<best friend<girl/boyfriend<husband/wife

That is the order that I see it, of having a negative relationship to a positive relationship.

I guess I say successful in that I get what I want out of the relationship. Be it friend or foe, every move made in a relationship is one of countless calculations. The brain calculates. To say that math and conclusions based on repeated experiences has little to do with it is a gross understatement. 

I like the scale you have presented. It makes me think of the polarity of each social role. It seems to me that each integer of the spectrum is an excellent candidate for its opposite. 

Enemy<>Life Partner

Rival<>Girl/Boyfriend

I see a problem with friend and best friend as I would put best friend as either a trophy of friends or as a platonic life partner. The best of friends are often excellent candidates for becoming one's arch enemy. I am unfortunately stuck with a friend that just won't accept his status as rival and enemy. We have fun though. 

well sure, countless calculations are involved and can be expressed, but can we actually see every single interaction?

The Admiral

Take your pseudoscientific bullshit and get the fuck out.

I'm sorry, but that's all I can think to say about your prattling on about relationships with human beings having some kind of "science" to them.

I reiterate:

LUCKY BASTARD.

WHO ARE YOU?

I'm an Admiral just wandering around these threads, don't worry, I'm not gonna post on this thread after this. 

The Admiral

Exile would be fine. Or you could lock me in a tower. This is a chat room and I am merely expressing my opinion, not bull shit as you so cleverly surmised.

I feel Whiskey144 and I are becoming fast enemies. I am so happy to have a new enemy. What games do you like to play?

I'm just curious as to your identity. Perhaps the REAL Chatroom could use a little new blood in the form of yourself.

I will now ignore you. Also, GTFO.

I will now ignore you too. Also, GTFO.

Hey Admiral, I feel like I know you from somewhere else...

In my experience, girl/boyfriends often come below best friend or even friend. More sort of a trophy. Then again, I suppose it is just playing at relationships, but you really do see who's actually in what I would define as a relationship by it lasting for more than a month or two. Oh, and when they talk about each other as people.

I'm sure we'll all grow up eventually. When we're, like, 40 or something...

I'm afraid that in my opinion there is an element of truth in his statements. Not about all of humanity, but about the usual attitude.

Ever heard somebody say "she's out of your league?" or "you're batting far above you average?" I see it as all of that. An un-official but self-imposed heirarchy based on superficial external traits. It exists in the minds of many, but not necessarily in the minds of all, and I think that those of us who are beyond this "scale" are better off for it. I'm sure you've seen this somewhere. It's just a simple application of the materialistic nature we have been encouraged for so long to have.

I'm hoping that the maybes don't still turn up. I've called off the re-union and everything, but not everybody is very good at the whole keeping up to date with the news thing.

Maybe if we meet up slightly earlier than the time originally agreed... A bit harsh if the maybes turn up, but it's their fault for being indecisive.

Well Mr. Admiral, I'm the one in command here

JK, but are how you doing?

I'm doin' fine. Hows the view from up there on the Empire State Building?

The Admiral

I've never heard someone say it personally, but I've heard of the former in all sorts of media.

IMO 'the girl' that every guy wants is automatically out of his league- on a "scale of 1 to 10", most guys are, IMO, a 4 (maybe a 5), whilst most girls (particularly the girls that most guys dream about as 'the girl') are on the 7+ end of the scale.

Incidentally, this simply illustrates that such a convention is ridiculous and stupid.

I would express further opinion, but I'd pretty much be repeating everything Krdax said and about 1/3 of what whiskey said so why bother?

-Twi

Personally, I feel that way because guys just aren't that great sometimes. I mean, the average 18-year-old guy can, (at least in America), in all likelihood just barely care for himself- and he's probably eating a lot of Chef-Boy-Ardee, Ramen noodles, and similar foods.

Obviously there are exceptions (I'd be eating a lot of PB&J samiches, and at least clean myself fairly regularly), but on average in America at least, young 'men' who don't act like men can barely care for themselves, and really aren't particularly great guys (last part mostly IMO)- but these guys think that they're the best thing since sliced bread.