Vasari Starbase Debris Vortex bugged?

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I've been playing Sins for a few months and picked up Entrenchment a month ago. I recently noticed that the Debris Vortex ability doesn't seem to upgrade at the second level. Is it bugged or am I just reading it wrong?

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Reply #1 from Sins Forums Top

It is upgraded inside of the ability, thus it does not display on the upgrade screen.

It upgrades the amount of hull healed by each piece of debris sucked in.

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Reply #3 from Sins Forums Top

What exactly is debris? Is that the cosmetic stuff floating around, or is it ship wreckage? How close does it need to be, how long does the debris float around before dissapearing? thanks

Reply #4 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting onomastikon, reply 3
What exactly is debris? Is that the cosmetic stuff floating around, or is it ship wreckage? How close does it need to be, how long does the debris float around before dissapearing? thanks
I don't know the game inside out, but I've played Vasari, like, almost always and I've used vortex a lot.

Debris comes from destroyed stuff. Ships, structures. Debris, although seems to disappear visually, is present forever (or almost forever, I know I had starbases suck in debris left over from 2 hours earlier). The starbase sucks debris towards it from quite far away (seems like 5 or more times the size of the starbase in every direction) though it takes time for the most distant pieces of junk to reach the orky, so not all of it manages to work for you in one cast.

I have once noticed that it SEEMS that debris left over by structures cancelled after their construction began (so that they blow up instead of simply their "shadow" disappearing) also heals the starbase, although it should not yield any health (cause the player gets all the money back when he cancels the construction).
It still isn't confirmed though.

Reply #5 from Sins Forums Top

Ahh. This then brings up an interesting point. 

Against the AI, I sometimes tech up Vasari salvaging (you know, the one that gives you resources that are sucked up by your Cap ships when there is debris nearby) if I find myself in a resource deficient situation.

However, this might cause a problem for your orky with debris vortex if all the cap ships are sucking all available debris near the starbase. I might actually help the orky to keep em clear.  

Reply #6 from Sins Forums Top

Nope.

Quoting N3rull, reply 4

Quoting onomastikon, reply 3What exactly is debris? Is that the cosmetic stuff floating around, or is it ship wreckage? How close does it need to be, how long does the debris float around before dissapearing? thanks
I don't know the game inside out, but I've played Vasari, like, almost always and I've used vortex a lot.
Debris comes from destroyed stuff. Ships, structures. Debris, although seems to disappear visually, is present forever (or almost forever, I know I had starbases suck in debris left over from 2 hours earlier). The starbase sucks debris towards it from quite far away (seems like 5 or more times the size of the starbase in every direction) though it takes time for the most distant pieces of junk to reach the orky, so not all of it manages to work for you in one cast.

I have once noticed that it SEEMS that debris left over by structures cancelled after their construction began (so that they blow up instead of simply their "shadow" disappearing) also heals the starbase, although it should not yield any health (cause the player gets all the money back when he cancels the construction).
It still isn't confirmed though.

Debris is produced and is hardcoded to be able to be used no matter where it came from... Scuttling a structure WILL produce debris that your Orkulus can use.

Quoting rowanlad, reply 5
Ahh. This then brings up an interesting point. 

Against the AI, I sometimes tech up Vasari salvaging (you know, the one that gives you resources that are sucked up by your Cap ships when there is debris nearby) if I find myself in a resource deficient situation.

However, this might cause a problem for your orky with debris vortex if all the cap ships are sucking all available debris near the starbase. I might actually help the orky to keep em clear.  

The Vasarian research does NOT absorb debris, it just gives you money for destroyed objects.

If you are using a mod like Distant Stars, or Bailknight's that produces more debris than normal, about only half of that debris is real, as the other half is actually particle effects designed to look like debris.

Reply #7 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting Syneptus, reply 6
Debris is produced and is hardcoded to be able to be used no matter where it came from... Scuttling a structure WILL produce debris that your Orkulus can use.
You don't get it, I think. I said that it seems that debris from structures NOT FINISHED, but cancelled DURING CONSTRUCTION work for the Vortex.
Cancelled =/= scuttled.