Andrew Brietbart Confronts Leftist Protestors

Funny. You know I fully realize people will have fundamental differences. What concerns me is dies someone develop ones opinion themselves or do they allow others to form it for them. It's not that much different from folks that idolize musicians, athletes, or movie stars. I've never been the type to go ga ga over someone else, or even wear a jersey with someone elses name on the back, so this is hard for me to relate to. I believe it occurs on the left just as much it does the right, but I'm amazed at how little it takes for someone to carry a sign they can't provide a detailed answer to explain what they are advertising. How shallow is ones belief system to do that.

I guess if you're gonna be a leftist tool you might as well get paid for it like these pathetic schleps. The internet is also filled with these paid DNC posters who regularly defend Barack Obongo onyanga Hussein Obama with a sheet of mind numbed talking points. 

And I thought it was because of his lies that makes even the media look like unbiased honest reporters.

I can't say I hate him but I certainly dislike him, not only because of his lies but also because he makes right-wingers look like complete morons. I figured that left-wingers would hate him certainly for the first reason (and love him for the second).

I guess this is a similar case to Sarah Palin's. Right-wingers just don't understand how left-wingers think. Left-wingers do not fear Sarah Palin and they do not hate Andrew Breitbart. In fact left-wingers love both because the two cost the right votes from the undecided.

Not so sure about that.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/september_2010/52_of_voters_say_their_views_are_more_like_palin_s_than_obama_s

Fifty-two percent (52%) of Likely U.S. Voters say their own views are closer to Sarah Palin’s than they are to President Obama’s.

 

And that would be relevant if Sarah Palin was running against Obama, but the last time she was, Americans voted for Obama instead.

I would bet that my views are closer to Palin's than to Obama's, but I don't think I would vote for her. She just doesn't strike me as reliable whereas Obama has turned out much more reliable and centrist than I had expected.

She didn't run against Obama, McCain the RINO did.

Obama a centrist?  Are you kidding?

If McCain is a RINO, I doubt anyone can help the GOP any more.

It was people like McCain that made me support the Republican party. The entire RINO definition doesn't make sense anyway. A RINO is defined as someone who doesn't really support Republican values. And "Republican values" is defined as something that changes over time (since they are clearly not the values of Lincoln any more). But if the values change, how can we ever find that anyone doesn't really support them?

Read my lips: s/a centrist/more reliable and centrist than I had expected/

I disagree. Left-wingers created Sarah Palin via their fear of her. Need proof? How many unsuccessful presidential candidates VP picks to you hear from today in a politically active way (and most every day to boot)? Appears they will do the same with Breitbart.

Those are probably two word I wouldn't use to describe Obama in any context. It would almost the same as one saying Saddam was kinder and gentler than I thought he was.

I know. But that's not the point.

I am telling you this as someone to the left of you. You can either listen to left-wingers (relative to you) or pretend that you know what they think. The first is better if you want to win.

How is that proof? It is entirely possible for Sarah Palin to be politically active because she has supporters on the right and not because she is feared on the left. Hence this is no proof.

The fact that Sarah Palin is a phenomenon and possibly a unique such doesn't mean that the left fear her. And I'm not even sure if quitting a governor's position and constant campaigning really counts as "politically active".

Ok, I will be Breitbart - name one lie.

Oh, but they do (on both counts).  You project your "European left" onto the "American left", and are wrong in that respect.  They fear Palin because of what she represents (the same thing that Clarence Thomas does and they hate him for the same reason).  They hate Breitbart because he can stand there and calmly confront them and show them to be fools.

You are wrong again. She has never run against him.  I hope she does.

In some respects you are right.  Like a broken clock, he has been consistently wrong.

It may fracture into 2 parties.  But that would be good for the republicans eventually as the US would get a 3rd party, and the current RINO republicans would become the center party.  I would hope we could bring it back to its core, but if it takes a fracture, then so be it.  I am tired of politicians that go to washington saying they will control spending and then do the opposite.  It ensures that I have wasted a vote.

A progressive (yes they exist in both parties) would be a better word for McCain. He is back peddling now, trying to get some conservative cred, since his primary in an attempt to remain relevant. His time is almost over though, conservative see thew it. He is fortunate his constituency liked him better than his opponent locally, as he will never get close any major national support in the future.

Palin was created by liberals and the left by deluging her with frivolous lawsuits. They thought it was smart. Well all that did was force her to give up being governor (her governor salary would never have covered the half million dollar legal fees) and turned her in to a political activist. She wrote her book, when on tour and the rest is what you see now. Good job lefties.

I believe she is doing fine where she is. But if she decides to I hope it isn't 2012. This is good political experiance she is getting now.

Remember the Sherrod case?

I saw the video Breitbart provided and the full video. I also read what he wrote about what happened and then what really happened.

He lied.

No, you are assuming that I have no contact with American left-wingers. In fact because of where I work most Americans I know are left-wingers and Obama supporters. You, my friend, are one of the few right-wing Americans I know.

Left-wingers, American such, do NOT fear Sarah Palin.

The sooner you will all accept that, the better.

Her ticket ran against his ticket. Palin supporters obviously voted for McCain/Palin rather than Obama.

I agree.

His constituency probably know him better than others.

I am not saying that liberals aren't to blame for her prominence. They are.

But they still don't fear her.

They just saw a woman married to an eskimo and figured they could have her way with that minority candidate not blessed by the left. They were wrong.

But that doesn't mean that she isn't a loonie and it doesn't mean that the left are now (or were ever) afraid of her.

Just ask swing voters why they voted for Obama rather than McCain. You will find that it often was because of the VP candidate he chose.

Well it would be hard to find one now that would honestly say what they voted for was the "hope and change", I imagine Palin is a convenient excuse as any. What is the confidence level with Joe Biden? No doubt some of the liberal left wing feminist rhetoric took. There were polls at the time that showed Palin helped the McCain ticket...so who to believe??? The Dems or your own lying eyes? We only had the word of the "generally pleased with her performance" Alaskans to guide us for the most part.

I saw what Brietbart was given. One must ask if he was provided the tape in it's entire. Or did the NAACP just give it to him, and forget about it all prior to throwing Sherod under the bus? After all it was their tape. So why would Brietbart show a portion of a tape that the NAACP could quickly dispel? Questions, questions. Of course it is far easier to label him a liar and move on. Just gotta wonder why the left isn't trying to make more hay (against AB at the very least) out of it than they did/are.

Of course the left fears Palin.  Just look at how far and how they go to attack her.  Or is that just normal behavior for the left these days?

No, they don't.

She is an easy target.

If the GOP had other prominent leaders, the left would find it more difficult to attack them and it would cost them votes.

I knew that is what you were thinking.  it was a sucker question.  And you are wrong.  He did not create the video (he posted it), and his criticism was mostly about the NAACP for 2 reasons - one applauding it when she said she was denying the farmer her full support and 2 the NAACP for knee jerking when they had the FULL video!

He did not lie.  The video (I blogged about it, care to read what I wrote?) was not a damning of Sherod so much as it was about the NAACP.  That was my point, that was and is his point and posting an outtake of a video is not a lie.  At best, if he had edited the video, he would be guilty of taking it out of context.

So why are you so quick to call him a liar when he is not?  And I have yet to see you condemn media Matters or Moron.org for doing the exact same thing - but they did the editing.

me thinks they doth protest too much - you can accept what they say at face value, but they are lying to you.  And you just do not know them well enough to spot the difference.  Again, I laugh at Jimmy Carter - how many railings do you see from me about him?  That is because I do not fear him.  But I do not obsess about him either as the left does Palin.

No they did not. I did not.  And I was not alone.  I do not vote FOR the #2 spot.  Unless you have inside information on an assassination, it is a stupid thing to do.

yes, if you are misogynist.  Which the liberals are.  But if you go on her statements and positions, show me how she is so much different than say John Boehner.  Or Mitch McConnell?

Unless you are going to go misogynist on us, you will not be able to.  you can disagree with her positions, but the only way you can "attack" her as the left has is if:

#1: you hate women

#2: You fear her

Your choice.

As a side note unrelated to the topic, Leauki's posts tend to grate on my nerves. Someone like KB or the Lutheran have clear-cut beliefs, ID and Doc seem to have core beliefs as well, and I tend to agree with Doc and ID because their beliefs are generally similar to mine, but Leauki doesn't seem to have this problem. He is above the fray and writes his opinions from way up high from the sobriety of a centrist who isn't about to get in the mud with us right wing nutjobs or left wing moonbats. That holier than thou pompous BS annoys me.

Ah, Tony I think it's more of an outsider looking into a different world. Europe is a far different place than Americans think (Not your grandfathers Europe). I just saw a piece where Obama polls in the 80's over their. They love him. IMO it's because he knocks America down a peg or two in their eyes. They don't want the US to go away (just in case they need us), but there is a bit of envy. Now that's just my opinion.

I like when our foreign friends comment. It's a good gage of their perception of us, but I do realize they are at the mercy of what the international press feeds them, since they are not immersed into our world as we are (the same for us in theirs). How many real, US style, conservatives from outside do you see here on JU? If this this site were an indicator I would say none exist, lol. My experience tells me if we had some Eastern Europeans we would see views more in line with US conservatives.

It can be frustrating, kind of like describing "red" to a person blind from birth. But that goes both ways. While there is foreign policy discussions here, there is little discussion on foreign politics. Why because for the most part Americans are generally uninterested (for good or bad), especially conservatives as we have a "to each his own attitude". US Liberals are more inclined to tell you how to fix your country especially if they don't live there (or even visited). So I'm glad people like Leauki comment, I learn some thing and hope they do too.

Ok. I see this is one of the times where I should withdraw from JU for a few months or years. The personal attacks have started. I like not to get into that sort of thing.

Thank you Nitro for your explanations.

Let me just say that I don't even have television, do not watch the news a lot, rarely read anything the mass media produce and, as you can see on my own links page, the only American professional news outlet I frequent is Fox news.

Most of what I know about American politics comes simply from Americans I meet and talk to, not the mass media. Even Doc has occasionally stated that I seem to understand American politics well (at least when I agree with him).

As for eastern Europeans, I know my share of those. There are hundreds of thousands of them here in Dublin and most Jews I meet in Germany are from Russia (as are many of my friends in Israel). I can also converse in Polish to an extent. I can tell you that their conservative views are more like Bush's and McCain's, not Palin's and Paul's.

I have become more active on facebook anyway.

 I don't see that it was a personal attack, continue to write what you write I don't care.