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Object Desktop 2011 wishlist

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The Windows "ecosystem" is complex these days. There's Windows XP users, Windows Vista users and Windows 7 users both in 32 and 64 bit versions which require their own versions believe it or not if you want to fully support it.

Our question to you, what would YOU like to see in the next major revision of Object Desktop?

If you don't have Object Desktop already, what are you waiting for?!

www.objectdesktop.com

 

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Reply #26 from WinCustomize Forums Top

RedneckDude : Agreed, not every wish is useful to implement, that one for sure.

Reply #27 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Geez this XP argument gets really old. Speaking for myself...I started out using XP...and get this...it still works as well as the day I got it! Go figure! If people are so obsessed with PC's that they just have to the latest OS for whatever reason then by all means go for it. Personally I'm glad to say I don't have that obsession. I just don't see any reason to "move on" or get the latest greatest whatever when what I have still works. And I'm sure Vista or 7 are just fine...be happy with what you have. Just stop dumping on us XP users to justify what you do or don't do. And if everyone stopped skinning for XP today I wouldn't lose a second of sleep over and I'd just adapt or find a new hobby. Over the years I've collected tons of skins...many of which I haven't even used yet...so as far as customizing my desktop I'm pretty set. And a skin pretty much stays on my desktop for the time I'm adapting it to something else or making a dock for it...then it's on to the next skin.

Yeah sure I might see a new skin that doesn't include XP...but here's the kicker...I'll get over it...there are more important things in life than what my screen looks like or keeping up with the Jones'. And I don't have the follower mentality where I have to follow the crowd just because everyone else is doing it. It's not a matter of "Xtreme Procrastination" it's a matter of "it ain't broke so why fix it" or my finances just won't allow it...but even if they did I still don't see the reason or need to get rid of something that still works. My pc does what I need it to do and if at some point in time it doesn't...again...I'll get over it. And if you have the money to run out and buy every new gadget that comes out by all means go for it. Just please...stop trying to justify what you do by saying everyone else is procrastinating.

If skinning XP is such a pain in the ass then by all means stop doing it. Just because someone is whining about not being able to use the latest skin someone put out doesn't mean you have to cave in and do it...guess what...they'll get over it...and if they don't maybe they should try therapy...it's not the end of the world. I see skins I like that aren't made for XP so I just adapt them to Winstep and even then it's still not something I can't live without...I do it because I like a challenge. I bought my pc shortly before joining WC and until then I didn't know a pixel from a gigabyte...no one taught me how to do any of this...I didn't read any tutorials...I just dove in and started doing it until I figured it all out.

I've had lots of hobbies over my lifetime and this is just another one added to the list. I do this because I can...because I enjoy doing it and because I enjoy seeing other people enjoy what I do...and I'm not doing this for some promotion. If I'm noticed for what I do great...if not I'll live. When any of that stops so will I. So if any of this skinning isn't fun for you then just stop doing it...if skinning XP isn't fun for you or a pain in the ass stop doing it...the world will not end. If your not doing this for fun or to make a few bucks then stop doing it...no one is holding a gun to your head. If your doing this for a promotion your doing it for the wrong reasons.

And as far as Brad's end...he's in a business and hopefully enjoys what he does...and I certainly will not hold it against him because he did or didn't decide to continue to develop anything for XP anymore. I'm grateful for everything he's done so far and life goes on.

Oh! And in answer to Brad's main question...surprise me! ;)

Groupy 2 - Organize multiple applications into grouped tabs on your Windows desktop
Reply #28 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Why do threads like this always start so much bickering over stupid stuff like OS's Brad asks this question every year and most people give the same answers every years.

 

Then Stardock does what they want anyways.

 

Personally there is only one thing I would like to see in OD2011 and that is that all included programs work as advertised.

 

 

I would also like to see The Installer (Impulse) be able to recognize my OS and only show me the apps that are compatible.

Reply #29 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Personally there is only one thing I would like to see in OD2011 and that is that all included programs work as advertised

5* :thumbsup:   Best answer ever award!

Reply #30 from WinCustomize Forums Top

New RightClick.

DesktopX update

Focus on core apps like WB, RC, DesktopX.  Consider retiring some apps.

Focus on Win7 and upcoming OS's

:)

Reply #31 from WinCustomize Forums Top

So...like I say: Do a survey. Find out if skinners should be obliged to do all the OS's.

That's an unreasonable requirement. Say I don't have a working xp machine. Is Stardock going to purchase one for me? Are you, Seth?

 

Why do I skin for all 3? Because I can. When my ancient xp lappy bites the dust, I'm not going to replace it.

Reply #32 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Because Win 7 has such a good UI ODNT needs to focus on where it started, productivity.  That's where apps like RighClick, ObjectBar, Control Center started out and I thing there is still a need there.

WindowFX can do a lot and I hope that it does.  I hope you and Niel still have my wishlist for that app.

Keyboard Launchpad had a terrible UI and many of its best functions have moved to special keys on keyboards and mice but there is still room for that if the UI could be updated.  A video like that which was done for Fences would go a long way towards showing folks why such a tool is necessary.  There was a day when I lived off macros for sundry apps.

Virtual Desktop.  and I know what Jeff says but Compiz *has* to be possible on windows.  :)

A mouse gesture app?

 

Reply #33 from WinCustomize Forums Top

So...like I say: Do a survey. Find out if skinners should be obliged to do all the OS's.
 Skinners are not obligated to skin for any OS or any person.  They have no obligation to do anything here.  Skinners should skin for themselves.  If they feel like sharing here on WC they should.  *I* think they have a obligation to state what OS(s) their skin is skinned for.  :)

Reply #34 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Wish List:

1. Finish Object Dock 2

2. WindowFX for 64 Bit

3. Hopefully add animated icons features from IconX into WindowFX - if not at launch, then later

Regarding the data previously mentioned (chart pasted below) on the state of OSes, the most important piece of data is not just the top line, but the entire 2010 data piece -

Moving Up : Win 7      (2% on average gain every month in 2010 so far)

Moving Down: Vista   (Down 5% so far in 2010)

                    XP     (Down 7% so far in 2010)

Little to no change: Linux, Mac OS, Win2000, Win2003

Although it doesn't say it, I am willing to bet most Win 7 users are 64 bit as most new systems come with 64 bit pre loaded.

If this trend continues, (and it probably will for the next year or more), Stardock will have itself a marginalized subscriber base if they do not concentrate on 64 bit Windows 7 support - that would be the smart business decision. It will also put them in the best position for being ready for Windows 8. They began with OS2 - they moved on since, and hopefully will continue to adapt to the changing market. Its nothing personal. They are not leaving people behind - their older versions and most current ones still work well with XP. Heck, it could be argued most of their software operates best on XP - did I mention I want WindowsFX, fully working ObjectDock, and IconX features?  ;)

OS Platform Statistics

Windows XP is the most popular operating system. The Windows family counts for almost 90%:

2010 Win7 Vista Win2003 WinXP W2000 Linux Mac
August 22.3% 10.5% 1.3% 53.1% 0.4% 4.9% 6.7%
July 20.6% 10.9% 1.3% 54.6% 0.4% 4.8% 6.5%
June 19.8% 11.7% 1.3% 54.6% 0.4% 4.8% 6.8%
May 18.9% 12.4% 1.3% 55.3% 0.4% 4.5% 6.7%
April 16.7% 13.2% 1.3% 56.1% 0.5% 4.5% 7.1%
March 14.7% 13.7% 1.4% 57.8% 0.5% 4.5% 6.9%
February 13.0% 14.4% 1.4% 58.4% 0.6% 4.6% 7.1%
January 11.3% 15.4% 1.4% 59.4% 0.6% 4.6% 6.8%
             
Reply #35 from WinCustomize Forums Top

My only request for the next Object Desktop is the inclusion of ObjectDock.   But that's just me.  I know it stands well on its own but I often wish that the app was part of the suite.  I have no qualm if it's never to be included.  But it's just one less app that I end up not using.

Reply #36 from WinCustomize Forums Top

If this trend continues, (and it probably will for the next year or more), Stardock will have itself a marginalized subscriber base if they do not concentrate on 64 bit Windows 7 support - that would be the smart business decision. It will also put them in the best position for being ready for Windows 8. They began with OS2 - they moved on since, and hopefully will continue to adapt to the changing market. Its nothing personal. They are not leaving people behind - their older versions and most current ones still work well with XP.

My point exactly....;)

Reply #37 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Continued Support for WB ...Special attention for DX 4 (AMAZING POWER) plugins,and abillity to be current with todays PC's ie..Ram , # of cores etc....., It might be nice to include CFX (not Plus) in OBDT.

I would like to add my 2 cent on the OS disscusion ..... I have always tried to skin for all OS's I could.Recently I had a crash on the machine I used to skin XP for WB's I havent replaced it! My wife claimed our Vista Machine.

Now I am not saying loose XP support! Just look to the future!

Brad For developers what if when we built a DX object we could export it as an app for  Windows mobile ,or Andriod etc...

As you have staed before the mobile market is growing at an unbelievable pace why not take advantage of skinners and allow our gadgets to be made into app's also help Stardock to bridge the gap between PC and mobile and help giving you an extra foothold in this new and huge market place.

Open the door for us (no other site in the world has such talented skinners dedicated to excellence ) and we can create the content!

Thanks for asking and listening! ;)

Harley :)

Reply #38 from WinCustomize Forums Top

I too have a fully functioning XP 32 bit computer along with one that runs Win 7 64 bit.  I find that I use or even turn on the XP computer very little lately.  That is not to say it doesn't work just fine.  Unfortunately the world of computers will not sit still for anyone, I think we all know that.  Stardock is and will also adapt to what the current technology is and a good amount of the people using thier software will also depending on desire and money available to do so.

We will all have our own desires as to what we want to see here.  If our disires match up with Stardock's all the better. 

I stand by my first wish, that no matter what is included in Object Desktop 2011 that it works.  Plain and simple.  :sun:

Reply #39 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Just make sure windowblinds can actually fully skin Internet Explorer 8. It's now or never >:( :w00t:

Reply #41 from WinCustomize Forums Top

/me careless for XP and Vista...

Reply #42 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting 2of3, reply 31
So...like I say: Do a survey. Find out if skinners should be obliged to do all the OS's.

That's an unreasonable requirement. Say I don't have a working xp machine. Is Stardock going to purchase one for me? Are you, Seth?

 

Why do I skin for all 3? Because I can. When my ancient xp lappy bites the dust, I'm not going to replace it.

I didn't say I feel they should be obliged to skin all OS's. They should skin what they want. Period. Please don't pick a fight where one doesn't exist.

I didn't create the demands or requirements. Fight with those people. OK? 

Quoting Zubaz, reply 33
So...like I say: Do a survey. Find out if skinners should be obliged to do all the OS's. Skinners are not obligated to skin for any OS or any person.  They have no obligation to do anything here.  Skinners should skin for themselves.  If they feel like sharing here on WC they should.  *I* think they have a obligation to state what OS(s) their skin is skinned for.  

All that was about was continuing software compatablities for the SD apps. PERIOD. I feel about skinning the same as you and Tim. PERIOD.

You've all read enough of my replies in the past to realize I have said the same as you: Skinners should skin for themselves. 

This type of attribution of demands on skinners to me is what's leading me away from this site (and has others before me). Skinners: Do what you want. I don't see a sign that says skin this system, and all others or else.

My entire thrust was that before SD discontinues apps for XP, etc. they should find out how many of their customers run which OS. 

But you know what? I've stopped caring, so please remove the ladder from my back, and deal with SD yourselves.

 

 

Reply #43 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting 2of3, reply 31
So...like I say: Do a survey. Find out if skinners should be obliged to do all the OS's.

That's an unreasonable requirement. Say I don't have a working xp machine. Is Stardock going to purchase one for me? Are you, Seth?

 

Why do I skin for all 3? Because I can. When my ancient xp lappy bites the dust, I'm not going to replace it.

And I didn't say you should skin 7/vista or xp or skin at all. Do what you want. I've supported you 99% of the time. So why do you think I want you to skin XP? I'm sick of hearing and reading the OS fanboys.... You want the truth? All the OS's suck one way or another. Period.

I'm asking for the truth: Are skinners required to skin all OS's? Ask SD Admin, not me! What freaking rule did I ever create around this place?

When I ask that things be based on reason, what do I get?

And Dani... again, skin what you want, or not...it's up to you.

I never have told ANYONE what to do or not. It isn't my style. This is the crap I get for being loyal to a friend.

Oh yeah, Tim... just btw, if you needed a computer and I found out, yeah. I probably would have bought you one or shipped you one of my old ones with XP on it.

I wouldn't worry about it Tim and Zubaz... it's not like anything we ever suggest is done. Like everything else I (and many others) ever suggested (wtf do I know, right?) it'll most likely be ignored.

Reply #44 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Guys! Guys! Guys!...can we please get past this OS thing and not argue about who has what OS. What does it really matter in the end? Everyone has what the have. Everyone will skin what they skin. It's not going to make or break anyone. The only drawback I can see...if we can call it a drawback...is that whoever decides not to skin for XP "might" only lose a few cents in sales. In Stardocks position they "might" lose more...who really knows. But arguing over who has what OS is just plain stupid! As fast as OS's change these days everyone arguing here could have a outdated system tomorrow (figuratively speaking) and then the argument will start all over again. So can we please just get back to skinning? :grin:

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Reply #45 from WinCustomize Forums Top

4K for WG!!!!    4* :beer:

Reply #46 from WinCustomize Forums Top

 

But arguing over who has what OS is just plain stupid!

I agree, we should be arguing about 32 bit versus 64 bit.:P

Remember ..OS stands for Obsolete Soon.;)

Reply #47 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Har har.....X|

Reply #48 from WinCustomize Forums Top

The Windows "ecosystem" is complex these days. There's Windows XP users, Windows Vista users and Windows 7 users both in 32 and 64 bit versions which require their own versions believe it or not if you want to fully support it.

But arguing over who has what OS is just plain stupid! As fast as OS's change these days everyone arguing here could have a outdated system tomorrow (figuratively speaking) and then the argument will start all over again. So can we please just get back to skinning?

Brad's OP mentions the issue of complexity due to OS variations....so it's pivotal to the discussion.

If we're to 'please just get back to skinning' the question still remains....exactly what?

There IS ALREADY in place a 'requirement' that Master skins suit all three versions of the "current" OS, and it is that which can be argued is time-bombed as people WILL migrate to Win7 [and beyond] sooner rather than later.

It is that change which needs to be reflected in resource-direction when it comes to "what's next with Object Desktop?".

An individual's reluctance/reticence/indifference towards embracing newer, more current [relevant] OS vers is HIS choice.

Should Stardock also drag their collective heels as well - or move on?  THAT is the issue as I see it...;) 

Reply #49 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Move forward, that is what SD needs to do. Look to the future. SD isn't going to be "ready" for the future that computing brings if it is looking backwards.

Reply #50 from WinCustomize Forums Top

'requirement' that Master skins suit all three versions of the "current" OS

Do you mean OSes? Because the current OS is 7.