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The 2nd Demigod Community Tournament - Rules and Registration

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The 2nd Demigod Community Tournament - Rules and Registration

Pacov's Last Stand

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Welcome to the 2nd Demigod community tournament (Pacov's Last Stand) - rules and registration thread!   

UPDATE 1:  The scheduling thread has been opened.  Please head over there and post when you are available to play:  http://forums.impulsedriven.com/399006

UPDATE 2:  A new version of uberfix is available AND is required for the tournament.  Please see here and download/install:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399037

UPDATE 3:  The RESULTS thread has been opened.  Please head over there to track your wins/losses/replays:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399047

Update 4:  Registration is now closed.  Alternates are still allowed, but no new teams will be allowed to register at this point.

Update 5:  Added ventrilo (voice chat) server information for those of you that would like to use voice chat.  It also helps in finding people that are ready to play their matches!

Update 6:  The replay commentaries/discussions thread has been opened:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399150.  Check this thread out for news on live streaming events during the tournament along with commentaries and video for some of the games in this tournament!

This thread will cover all of the relevant rules and registration information.  Please see below for all of the details.

The tournament began on 10/16/2010.  Please be aware that this tournament will not begin and end on 10/16/2010.  It will actually take several weeks to complete. 

Background 

In April 2010, we started our first community demigod tournament.  The tournament was 2v2 and certain demigod selections were restricted.  The tourney carried a crash prize donated by people in the community and was won by the two man team of zen_god and King_of_thorns.  For more details on that tourney, read up here: (http://forums.demigodthegame.com/380837). 

Tournament Format

  • The tournament will be played as a 3v3 round robin tournament.  Round robin simply means that there is no elimination outside of disqualification.  Your team will play each and every team.  
  • Each match in the tournament will consist of 3 total games. 
  • We will track every win and loss.  The team with the most wins is the winner of the round robin portion of our tournament.
  • After the round robin has concluded, the top 4 teams will battle it out elimination style in the best 2 out of 3 games. 

Tournament Rules

  • All matches will be played on cataract with default settings (the only exceptions being AI HP on Very High and AI Gold/XP on low). 
  • Each team will play 1 round on the light side, then 1 round on the dark side.  In the 3rd round, if each team has 1 win, the team that had the fastest win in game 1 or 2 gets to pick the side they want to be on.  If one team already has 2 wins, the team with no wins gets to pick the side they want to be on (keep in mind the following rule). 
  • The team that is on the dark side must pick their characters and ready up first.  Then the team on the light side gets to pick and the dark side does not have a chance to adjust their characters.
  • Players using oak may not use spirits to perform a citadel rush.  Any player doing this will have their entire team disqualified for that game giving a win to the opposing team. If you don't know what this terminology means, odds are you aren't citadel rushing with spirits. 
  • Players MUST form their own teams
  • One player from each game must report their stats in.  We will open up a tournament stat tracking thread after the tournament begins. 
  • To track your wins, you must do the following - post the replay at gamereplays.org.  If you have issues with gamereplays, upload the file to rapid share and provide us with a link.  One player from the winning team should do this for each and every match. 
  • Each team must complete a minimum of 2 matches (6 games) per week.  If there are extenuating circumstances, then the decision making panel will review them.  Failure to complete 2 matches per week will result in a disqualification for your team. 
  • ALL teams are required to use the version of the uberfix mod here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399037

Alternates

  • Each team is allowed to have exactly 1 alternate
  • The alternate must not be participating in the tournament (either directly registered for the tournament or on a duplicate account). If it is discovered that the alternate is a player that is already in the tournament, but using a different account, all of those matches will be forfeited.
  • The same alternate cannot be used by multiple teams
  • If a team wins a cash prize with an alternate on their team, that team must determine how they will handle the prize money.  The decision making panel has nothing to do with how you choose to split up the money.

Prize 

There will be a cash prize > $600.  Jongalt will be handling the collection of the money for this tournament.  We are discussing the prize money in this linked thread:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/398009.  We appreciate any contributions to the prize.  YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PAY TO PLAY IN THIS TOURNEY. 

Here is how we will be splitting the winnings from the pot:

  • 10% goes to the team that wins the round robin
  • 50% of the balance goes to the winner of the playoffs
  • 25% of the balance goes to the 2nd place winner of the playoffs
  • 15% of the balance goes to the 3rd place winner of the playoffs
  • Participation raffle - 1 player from a team that has completed all of their games in the tournament will be entered into a random drawing after the tournament ends.  That player will receive a prize of $30 as incentive for finishing the tournament.  This money will be taken from the total cash pot before any other money is distributed by percentage.  Any player that has won a cash prize is NOT eligible for the participation raffle.

Demigod Selection

Each 3 man team must use the following formula to make their Demigod character selections based on a 7 point maximum.  Be aware that no duplicate demigods are permitted on the same team.  This means you cannot choose random.

  • Demon Assassin/Regulus - 1 point
  • Oculus/Queen of Thorns/Senda/Torch Bearer - 2 points
  • Lord Erebus/Oak/Rook/Unclean Beast - 3 points

Tournament Time Zone

The official time zone of the tournament is set for EST US time.  Players that are outside of that timezone are certainly welcome to play.  However, if there are significant scheduling difficulties due to players unable meet at the same time, the team furthest outside of the EST zone will most likely be disqualified or forfeit that match.  This rule does not excuse folks in the EST zone from any responsibility.  All parties in this tournament should endeavor to schedule their matches with other teams and try to be as flexible as possible. 

Decision Making Panel

This tournament will be governed by a decision making panel consisting of pacov, McShane, hedgie with Jongalt as an alternate.  The panel's purpose is as follows:

  • Review any scheduling issues and making the final decisions with regards to disqualification. 
  • Reviewing replays as required (crashes and desyncs)
  • Resolving any disputes that arise

The panel's decision on all matters will be the final word for this tournament. And last, the members of the decision making panel will not make any decisions on the games they are playing in.  We didn't have a panel in place for the first tournament and that was a mistake. 

How will we handle crashes

If there is a game crash, the players involved in that match should see if they can come to a consensus on the probable outcome of the match.  If there is no clear winner, the 2 teams should replay the match using the exact same demigods and sides (light/dark).  If there was a clear winner at that point in the game, then that team should be awarded the win.  If the 2 teams disagree on the outcome, then the decision making panel will review the replay of the match and render a decision.  Be aware that the decision making panel must agree that a specific team was going to win or the results will be thrown out and the match redone.  Please be thoughtful if you want the panel to review a match. 

How we will handle invalid game states

The lastgamereplay file is still created in the event of an invalid game state, so it is still possible to review the results of a match.  In the event of an invalid game state, players should attempt to resolve the issue exactly the same way as game crashes.  If you believe foul play occurred, submit the replay along with any screen shots, etc, as evidence and the decision making panel will review.  If there is a CLEAR consensus that a team is willingly triggering invalid game states, that team will be disqualified after a thorough review of the facts and will no longer be able to participate in the tournament.  If your game does crash, it might be advisable to take a screen shot of the crash as proof.  Be aware that we know invalid game states can occur without any sort of foul play, so please be mindful when submitting requests for review.

Current Teams:

  1. Soccermom, OMG_Zex, pacov
  2. Orcun, McShane, Defender
  3. beastmode, generalG, stiffyG
  4. IamKira, Mith, Zen_God
  5. bad daddy/chiefy/trousersnake
  6. jongalt/OMG_nomilarac/thundercles
  7. rwcupcrazy/pwnage_69/nojokes
  8. Iz_, Darz4, Darkliath
  9. Anneliese_the_Beserk/Udo_Juergins/Don_Doen
  10. Eltimes/Lols_SeaWolf/DreamCatcher
  11. OMG_jona__/4nana/kalel
  12. Nacelle, VulturePwns, LoCoJoK3R
  13. RobertMunch/FC-FuneralPortrait/DeadDemi
  14. Commando51, Rezzan, and T-Schert
  15. arkANG3L, swordguyj, and Firefromthesky
  16. brasher01/brokenstrong/beckad1(prozombe)
  17. Maxsteel32/Sebacoyl/Stilr
  18. Mortora/Nate_the_Great1992/SD_Zebrafox
  19. Bartleby/aberrator/nnnils\
  20. tsk-mandingo/ruiprsg_/kobzos

Registered Alternates:

Please be aware that other players are elligible to be an alternate based on the rules outlined in the alternates section.  I've simply left this list here so teams will know at least a few of the players that might be available as alternates. 

  1. busdude
  2. doggu
  3. gl-Spectre
  4. johnkout7
  5. jorune2112
  6. Kiamori
  7. OmicronLyrae
  8. Ouch-That-Hurts
  9. Renfri
  10. Rocchinho
  11. Taharos
  12. volen20

For any of you that would like to use it, we have a public ventrilo (voice chat) server that you are welcome to use for the tournament.  Even if you don't have a microphone, if only 1 person on your team does, it can be very useful to use voice chat (at least 11 of the registered teams will be using voice chat.  Why not you too?

Here's all of the info you need to get started:

Here is where you can download the client (its free): http://www.ventrilo.com/download.php

Here are instructions on how to use ventrilo to connect to a server:  http://www.ventrilo.com/setup.php

And here's the needed server info:

Server Name:  Lagwar's Ventrilo Server
Hostname:  oxygen.typefrag.com
Port: 50216

I have created some password protected channels for those of you that would like to use the server.  Scroll down until you see channel Oh My Demigod.  You will then see tournament channel 1/2/3.  The password for these channels are demigod.  Let me know if you have any questions. 

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Reply #276 from Demigod Forums Top

Setting the towers to high, while fun, changes the balance of the game.  It also extends the length of games so unless the majoirty of people really want high towers i wouldn't want them to be required. 

 

Hey Zen, my original suggestion was you could only pick one (UB or Rook) and pick one (Oak or LE) 

Reply #277 from Demigod Forums Top

Zen, my system didn't allow UB/Rook/Sedna nor UB/Rook/QoT : 1+1+2= 4 < 5 (meeeeeeeeec). Please read more carefully. :hrmph:

CowZex, your just suggested system is exactly the same as mine but with an inversed points system (Max points rule instead of min points rule). I still vouch for my system (or cow's recent one if you prefer a max points rule) as it's easy and simple yet it doesn't allow any of the (imho) OP combinations:

No Rook/UB/QoT, no OAK/LE/QoT, no three T1 DGs in same team, no two T1 DGs with a T2 DG (Sed, QoT, Oc, TB) in same team, etc...

Also it doesn't allow 3 generals teams with LE and OAK (strongest minions DGs) in same team, but if you're concerned about that we could add the "no 3 generals in a team" rule.

P.S: All this stems out from first tournament Hedgie's system, so credit should go to him actually ;)

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Reply #278 from Demigod Forums Top

and maybe make da = to zero? any team can have a da on their team, so ub rook da would be possible?

Quoting nomilarac, reply 280
Zen, my system didn't allow UB/Rook/Sedna nor UB/Rook/QoT : 1+1+2= 4 < 5 (meeeeeeeeec). Please read more carefully.

CowZex, your just suggested system is exactly the same as mine but with an inversed points system (Max points rule instead of min points rule). I still vouch for my system (or cow's recent one if you prefer a max points rule) as it's easy and simple yet it doesn't allow any of the (imho) OP combinations:

No Rook/UB/QoT, no OAK/LE/QoT, no three T1 DGs in same team, no two T1 DGs with a T2 DG (Sed, QoT, Oc, TB) in same team, etc...

Also it doesn't allow 3 generals teams with LE and OAK (strongest minions DGs) in same team, but if you're concerned about that we could add the "no 3 generals in a team" rule.

P.S: All this stems out from first tournament Hedgie's system, so credit should go to him actually

I understood your system as it has to be below 5 not hit exactly 5. I still think it's to simple though

Reply #279 from Demigod Forums Top

I think we can get carried away with trying to balance it exactly completely fairly. So you ban oak/le/ub, because everyone would play that. Then you ban rook/ub/oak if the first isn't allowed, then everyone plays that. And so on...

If you created a ranking of what the community agrees were the best combos in order, every time you ban one, the next one down becomes the "obvious" choice, until every match is da/reg/tb.

I think beyond Orcun's list, we are just heading down a slippery slope.

Reply #280 from Demigod Forums Top

also, whoever balanced the last tournament's demigod selection did an excellent job there. Is it possible to make some sort of chart to illustrate the combinations easier for a 3on3?

Reply #281 from Stardock Forums Top

I didnt read all the pages, but what about minion oaks finishing the game without actually playing ? Setting towers to high would fix that issue.

I think we'll put a rule in place regarding stomping the citadel with spirits.  I'm not personally opposed to high towers, but I think there will be some resistance; however, its something we can discuss and see what folks think. 

Also I think 1 round free picks, one round limited choices would be a good way to play. I feel like it would create more variety. What do you guys think?

I'm a fan that idea, but not sure if others will buy in. 

Let's focus as much discussion right now on the dg selection limitations so hopefully we can bottom that out today or tomorrow.  Then we can come back to other topics. 

I do wonder if it might be easier to simply ban specific team combos, but I'm up for whatever.

And to help, EVEN IF IT MAKES POSTS SIZABLE, please copy whatever system you are proposing or backing in any post and then ellaborate - that should cut down on some confusion, I think.

Reply #282 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting BadDaddy8, reply 282
I think we can get carried away with trying to balance it exactly completely fairly. So you ban oak/le/ub, because everyone would play that. Then you ban rook/ub/oak if the first isn't allowed, then everyone plays that. And so on...

If you created a ranking of what the community agrees were the best combos in order, every time you ban one, the next one down becomes the "obvious" choice, until every match is da/reg/tb.

I think beyond Orcun's list, we are just heading down a slippery slope.
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i still support orcun's list, but am cutting it down by 1 point and making da for free. And I think if we figure somehow out what to do with le and oak, we will have a much greater variety of comobs, which we saw in the last tournament :) because if we let le and oak play together , the third player has to be either da or reg !

Reply #283 from Demigod Forums Top

It had to be 5 or more. But let's inverse it and put it zex's way:

1. DA, Reg.

2. Sedna, QoT, Oculus, TB.

3. Rook, UB, Oak, L. Erebus.

Max 7 points.

Even if it looks too simple i think the end result will be pretty much the same as with your other system, and it will help making DG selection a little easier in the tourney games. But let's hear the community.

Reply #284 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting nomilarac, reply 286
It had to be 5 or more. But let's inverse it and put it zex's way:

1. DA, Reg.

2. Sedna, QoT, Oculus, TB.

3. Rook, UB, Oak, L. Erebus.

Max 7 points.

Even if it looks too simple i think the end result will be pretty much the same as with your other system, and it will help making DG selection a little easier in the tourney games. But let's hear the community.

I think that is the exact same result I was going for, now that I understand your point system ^^

Reply #285 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting OMG_ZEX, reply 273
1 DA REG

2 TB SED OC QOT

3 OAK EREBUS ROOK UB

MAX 7 POINTS

I think this will be my vote for the demigod selection. It is much more simple than the previous incarnations even though I like the 3 list proposed by nom, me and orcun.

Reply #286 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting OMG_ZEX, reply 288

Quoting OMG_ZEX, reply 2731 DA REG

2 TB SED OC QOT

3 OAK EREBUS ROOK UB

MAX 7 POINTS
I think this will be my vote for the demigod selection. It is much more simple than the previous incarnations even though I like the 3 list proposed by nom, me and orcun.

 

why would you retype it all caps lol anyway yeah it seems to be the simplest form of all concerns and thoughts in this thread. I vote for this list too unless someone finds something I didn't see.

Reply #288 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting GM-Zen_God, reply 289

Quoting OMG_ZEX, reply 288
Quoting OMG_ZEX, reply 2731 DA REG

2 TB SED OC QOT

3 OAK EREBUS ROOK UB

MAX 7 POINTS
I think this will be my vote for the demigod selection. It is much more simple than the previous incarnations even though I like the 3 list proposed by nom, me and orcun.
 

why would you retype it all caps lol anyway yeah it seems to be the simplest form of all concerns and thoughts in this thread. I vote for this list too unless someone finds something I didn't see.

I quoted my original post of it, which was in all caps.

Reply #289 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting nomilarac, reply 286
It had to be 5 or more. But let's inverse it and put it zex's way:

1. DA, Reg.

2. Sedna, QoT, Oculus, TB.

3. Rook, UB, Oak, L. Erebus.

Max 7 points.

Even if it looks too simple i think the end result will be pretty much the same as with your other system, and it will help making DG selection a little easier in the tourney games. But let's hear the community.

 

I vote yes on this.

Reply #290 from Demigod Forums Top

Another vote for Zex/ Nom's list.

Make it two votes, I'll speak for Chiefy.

KISS.

Reply #291 from Demigod Forums Top

I definitely see a good range of possibilities in there w/out any 1 being op.  gogo yes to the above.

Reply #292 from Stardock Forums Top

but which list from cow/nom? 

There's this:

2 TB SED OC QOT

3 OAK EREBUS ROOK UB

MAX 7 POINTS

are da and reg 0 points here?

and this:

1. DA, Reg.

2. Sedna, QoT, Oculus, TB.

3. Rook, UB, Oak, L. Erebus.

Max 7 Points

edit - I back the second option.

Reply #293 from Demigod Forums Top

you misquoted pacov.  both lists are the same.

(this is the line you missed:  Quoting OMG_ZEX, reply 2731 DA REG)

Reply #294 from Stardock Forums Top

OK

So here is the current proposal for team selection:

1 Point - DA or Reg

2 Points - Oculus, QoT, Senda, TB

3 Points - Erb, Oak, Rook, UB

No duplicates allowed and you can have a maximum of 7 points per 3 man team.

People currently in favor of this:

  • bad daddy
  • chiefy
  • pacov
  • thundercles
  • mcshane
  • cow
  • zen_god
  • nom
  • rawrrrr
  • jongalt

Anyone have any major concerns about this?  I think we might very well have our list. 

Reply #295 from Demigod Forums Top

1 Point - DA or Reg

2 Points - Oculus, QoT, Sedna, TB

3 Points - Erb, Oak, Rook, UB

No duplicates allowed and you can have a maximum of 7 points per 3 man team.

 

I, as well, vote yes to this list.  Please add me to the people currently in favor. 

 

Reply #296 from Demigod Forums Top

THIS POLL CLOSES TONIGHT !

If you haven't voted on the tournament style yet please do so.  As of now it appears that it will be a full round robin tournament [details to be discussed & perhaps voted on next]. 

(see my post on this page for tournament explanation)

http://forums.demigodthegame.com/396231/page/9/#2785840

Current people in favor of full round robin.  

Jongalt

Pacov

Lord Orion

McShane

Baddaddy

Chiefy

 

 

 

Also, BIG THANKS to those who are hosting lobbies that are advertising the tournament!

Reply #297 from Stardock Forums Top

added - we're going to lock down the demigod character rules tonight at midnight as well.  Seems like enough folks are in support of the system we discussed.

I think we can move onto the next topic.  Hopefully we can lock this down tonight as well.

High towers or normal towers?

I'm in favor of high towers, but I'm fairly certain I'm in the minority.  Please reply here with your preference and I'll get a list going on that as well. 

 

Reply #299 from Stardock Forums Top

cool - adding you to list. 

Quoting OMG_pacov, reply 300
added - we're going to lock down the demigod character rules tonight at midnight as well.  Seems like enough folks are in support of the system we discussed.

I think we can move onto the next topic.  Hopefully we can lock this down tonight as well.

High towers or normal towers?

I'm in favor of high towers, but I'm fairly certain I'm in the minority.  Please reply here with your preference and I'll get a list going on that as well.
 

Votes for high towers

  • pacov
  • darz4 (but said he wanted this primarily to counter minion oak)

Votes for normal towers

  • McShane
  • jongalt
  • bad daddy
  • cow
  • mith
  • orcun
  • orion

People that can't make up their mind named nom

  • nom

If you already chimed in on this and I missed it, please chime in again with your vote. 

 

Reply #300 from Demigod Forums Top

I vote no to high towers.  I know everybody plays that now but it seems like it's only because there's so few people left playing that everyone wants games to last longer.