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This forum is better than the game ;)

This forum is better than the game ;)

I'm one of the persons that aren't impressed by the current state of Elemental, but I like this forum so much :)  I've never had so many interesting discussions on various subjects in such a short time. I spend a lot of time here, and would like to thank all posters for making it such an inspiring place. I think the number of posts shows that there is need for a good game in the fantasy TBS genre, because there are not many of them lately. And Elemental doesn't fully satisfy those who need such a game, because if it was really good and finished (of course there is always room for improvement, by finished I mean a state where the game is fully playable and enjoyable), most of us would play it instead of posting here ;P

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Reply #26 Top

The AI seems a bit brain dead at times.

Reply #27 Top

I do come here for info and updates................but this is "not" more fun than the game. Not even close.........x_x   Sorry!

Reply #28 Top

Forums: Forums of Forums or just F:FoF

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Reply #29 Top

Quoting Purest, reply 28
Forums: Forums of Forums or just F:FoF


That made me laugh A LOT more than it should have.

Nicely done!

Reply #30 Top

I haven't bought the game yet, launch reviews were not too kind. I don't like the idea of the game I buy being outdated and in dire need of multiple patches on day 1....kind of defeats the purpose of having a disk at all. So much for all the pro single player ( no DRM ) aspects of the game when you have to go online to update the sucker.

 

I find it more than a little bit amusing that this game launched as it did when Brad dissed demigod to know end railing on about what he would have done better at launch...

Reply #31 Top

Quoting dchalfont, reply 30
I find it more than a little bit amusing that this game launched as it did when Brad dissed demigod to know end railing on about what he would have done better at launch...

 

Well, I can understand what you mean but... Let's not post anymore on the subject, search the board for a thread named S**t happens, the OP summarized quite well my opinion on the matter ;)

Reply #32 Top

Quoting dchalfont, reply 30
I haven't bought the game yet, launch reviews were not too kind. I don't like the idea of the game I buy being outdated and in dire need of multiple patches on day 1....


The same reviewers also gave Spore a near perfect score. (no i wont let it go! >_> )
Bribed = high score, not bribed = low score

Reply #33 Top

It's weird but you're right.

When I bought the game I didn't really spend much time actually playing it as it was apparent immediately that it was full of bugs and rushed out the door way too soon. However, I could see that the game had potential, so I followed the forum looking for patches and info.

All of the ongoing posts from Wardell, the dev team and the community had me checking the foum regularly.

I've kind of given up on actually playing Elemental in the near future but still feel that between the 10 hours spent in the game and the 10 hours spent following the whole release debacle that I've somehow gotten entertainment enough to make me feel that my money wasn't wasted buying the game.

Whether or not Elemental will turn into a great game down the road remains to be seen, but I'll probably check in on it from time to time just to see what happened.

The last game that I bought before Elemental was WC2 so I must admit that the contrast is striking.

Reply #34 Top

I really like these forums, too. The level of maturity strikes me as higher than average, there's plenty of good discussion going on, and I often spot posts that crack me up. :) I also like the technical aspects -- the board's accessible and usable, and it loads quickly.

You're all appreciated, and you don't need patches!

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I'm one of the persons that aren't impressed by the current state of Elemental, but I like this forum so much   I've never had so many interesting discussions on various subjects in such a short time. I spend a lot of time here, and would like to thank all posters for making it such an inspiring place. I think the number of posts shows that there is need for a good game in the fantasy TBS genre, because there are not many of them lately. And Elemental doesn't fully satisfy those who need such a game, because if it was really good and finished (of course there is always room for improvement, by finished I mean a state where the game is fully playable and enjoyable), most of us would play it instead of posting here 

 

Wait... I love the people, love the community, but I HATE the forums.

XO   Here's Why!

There's no Spoiler Tag

Code: c++
  1. The Code Function is COMPLETE CRAP
  2. It numbers every line so that copy and paste is useless, and it arbitrarily highlights crap
  3. Because it apparently thinks it knows better than you what parts you want to emphasize
  4. Oh and it has no cut off point for the code box, it can go on for pages instead of containing the code in a finite table

There are no file attachment options

Any time you edit an OP it FORCES you to type a reason why, even if it's just a minor edit like a single character spell correction.

And there are several other gripes.

 

I also just find the game enjoyable as it is, well as it is after I've modded it (I couldn't stand the default colors for a couple of factions, and I had to diversify the terrains to include desert and winter). I look forward to the next patch.

Reply #36 Top

Quoting Baleurion, reply 32

Quoting dchalfont, reply 30I haven't bought the game yet, launch reviews were not too kind. I don't like the idea of the game I buy being outdated and in dire need of multiple patches on day 1....


The same reviewers also gave Spore a near perfect score. (no i wont let it go! )
Bribed = high score, not bribed = low score
Except that Stardock has taken out a two-page ad on the first two pages of PC Gamer, this month!

They are "waiting for patches" before they review, LOL!

Reply #37 Top

Quoting Valentine82, reply 35

quoting post
I'm one of the persons that aren't impressed by the current state of Elemental, but I like this forum so much   I've never had so many interesting discussions on various subjects in such a short time. I spend a lot of time here, and would like to thank all posters for making it such an inspiring place. I think the number of posts shows that there is need for a good game in the fantasy TBS genre, because there are not many of them lately. And Elemental doesn't fully satisfy those who need such a game, because if it was really good and finished (of course there is always room for improvement, by finished I mean a state where the game is fully playable and enjoyable), most of us would play it instead of posting here 


 

Wait... I love the people, love the community, but I HATE the forums.

  Here's Why!

There's no Spoiler Tag

Code: c++
The Code Function is COMPLETE CRAP
It numbers every line so that copy and paste is useless, and it arbitrarily highlights crap
Because it apparently thinks it knows better than you what parts you want to emphasize
Oh and it has no cut off point for the code box, it can go on for pages instead of containing the code in a finite table
There are no file attachment options

Any time you edit an OP it FORCES you to type a reason why, even if it's just a minor edit like a single character spell correction.

And there are several other gripes.

 

I also just find the game enjoyable as it is, well as it is after I've modded it (I couldn't stand the default colors for a couple of factions, and I had to diversify the terrains to include desert and winter). I look forward to the next patch.

 

I agree. Add poor multi-quote functions too.
But the community here is stellar and that weighs up for a lot of technical crap.

Reply #38 Top

Yeah, I meant the people that post here, not the technical aspects of the forum.

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Reply #39 Top

Quoting dchalfont, reply 30
I haven't bought the game yet, launch reviews were not too kind. I don't like the idea of the game I buy being outdated and in dire need of multiple patches on day 1....kind of defeats the purpose of having a disk at all. So much for all the pro single player ( no DRM ) aspects of the game when you have to go online to update the sucker.

 

I find it more than a little bit amusing that this game launched as it did when Brad dissed demigod to know end railing on about what he would have done better at launch...

The last line is particularly ironic given that Elemental will be at least 2 weeks after launch before it has any form of working multiplayer. The only other game I've ever bought with a problem like that was Demigod (and that took 3 weeks before I could play on the official servers, but at least it had LAN play so Hamachi made it playable).

For their next game, I REALLY hope they take a "when it's ready" approach to releasing it. Their reputation can only take so many botched releases in a row before people see "Stardock" and automatically assume "buy in 6 months".  (And since Elemental basically doesn't exist at retail anywhere outside the US, I don't think making the retail date was worth the reputation damage this launch caused.)

Reply #40 Top

Quoting Tridus, reply 39

Quoting dchalfont, reply 30I haven't bought the game yet, launch reviews were not too kind. I don't like the idea of the game I buy being outdated and in dire need of multiple patches on day 1....kind of defeats the purpose of having a disk at all. So much for all the pro single player ( no DRM ) aspects of the game when you have to go online to update the sucker.

 

I find it more than a little bit amusing that this game launched as it did when Brad dissed demigod to know end railing on about what he would have done better at launch...
The last line is particularly ironic given that Elemental will be at least 2 weeks after launch before it has any form of working multiplayer. The only other game I've ever bought with a problem like that was Demigod (and that took 3 weeks before I could play on the official servers, but at least it had LAN play so Hamachi made it playable).

For their next game, I REALLY hope they take a "when it's ready" approach to releasing it. Their reputation can only take so many botched releases in a row before people see "Stardock" and automatically assume "buy in 6 months".  (And since Elemental basically doesn't exist at retail anywhere outside the US, I don't think making the retail date was worth the reputation damage this launch caused.)

 

I am one such retail customer outside the U.S. I have 6gig/month internet ( no download ) and I exclusively play single player/skirmish type game modes.

 

I was waiting for the launch and was relying on the disk not requiring updates and such because of my internet/my general contempt for online gaming...

 

So now if I bought it, I would be doing so knowing the disk is worthless, and basically having to buy one of the updated replacement disks brad talked about them making for this game. How about they just announce when they release a working retail version and i'll buy that...

 

Maybe spend an extra 5 cents giving the game a hard plastic case too. For a full price game, a loose disk in a carboard box doesn't really cut it in 2010...I felt ripped off when my demigod C.E was a crap carboard box full of throw away junk and a bent pewter figure. Stardock clearly spare no expense with game development and distribution.