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Prevent ingame incest!

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So there I was talking to one of my contemperaries durring my last playthrough when the subject of yet another arranged marrage had come up, I had a particuarly bothersome and unmarried son I was still trying to marry off so he offered up a girl from his court to marry my son to in a hope that it would set him striaght....

 

The problem was, after they were wed, we learned that my fourth child had just married the young daughter of my first born son.....

 

While I found this to be hillarious personaly, other people in my courst were rather horrorfied by the knock-knee bucked tooth pariah's such a union produced, it's was only merciful that my fellow sovrign ended up with the little mutants for the most part, but the one I had been stuck with was forced to be wed to a trog as no one else would take it (could never tell it's gender)

If only there was a way to see the relationships before agreeing to it without having to step out of the room (Or diplomacy screen in this case) to make sure I wasan't committing a crime against nature.

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Reply #51 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting psychoak, reply 49

These numbers are skewed because of your more risky behaviors.  Our birth defect rate is going through the roof as the average age of the parents increases.  I think anyone that starts popping kids out after thirty is insane too.  Most, like 99.9%, of the autism and downs syndrome is directly related to idiots waiting till after they've played at having a career to get busy.


The actual base numbers for chromosome defects start out in the thousandths, and end up somewhere around 1/5 in your mid 40's.  Ideally, genetically speaking, you want to start going at it like rabbits in junior high, early high school, and get tired of each other by 25.

That is the unfortunate state of our society.  Physically, the best time to have a child is the worst time socially to have a child (ages 14 to 18).  And socially, the best time to have a child is the worst time physically to have a child (ages 25+).  Atleast for women.  Men are less susceptible, but still susceptible.

I have told people who are "waiting until their ready" that you're never ready to have a child.  No amount of planning ahead can prepare you for what is to come.  It's never convienient, it's never affordable, it's never predictable.

So, try not to be too hard on us 30 year olds having kids.  It's not our fault.  I blame society.

I also blame the insane divorce rate.  Couples who love each other naturally want to procreate, and those who remarry want to have their chance too.

Reply #52 from Elemental Forums Top

Mercestes, et al:

Yes, cultural forces have impacted affluent people in our society in such a manner as to push many child bearing choices into the age bracket where the possibilities of birth defects presenting is much higher.  (Basically its caused by 'old' eggs.)

Perhaps, we have created a society which does not enhance the truly important aspects of life? 

Our civilization (western Democracies) have, as a core value, individual autonomy.  Our market driven and consumer oriented structures have (value) added much to our lives.

Big but.  Are we creating the world we really want to live in, or pass on to our inheritors? 

 

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Reply #53 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting ElanaAhova, reply 52
Mercestes, et al:

Yes, cultural forces have impacted affluent people in our society in such a manner as to push many child bearing choices into the age bracket where the possibilities of birth defects presenting is much higher.  (Basically its caused by 'old' eggs.)

Perhaps, we have created a society which does not enhance the truly important aspects of life? 

Our civilization (western Democracies) have, as a core value, individual autonomy.  Our market driven and consumer oriented structures have (value) added much to our lives.

Big but.  Are we creating the world we really want to live in, or pass on to our inheritors? 

 

 

I don't think 'product' makes people happy. Maybe I shouldn't say happy. Contentment is what I'm looking for here. Consumerism and contentment don't mix. A person content with themself and their life will have less desire to buy a ton of crap they don't really need, and the more content they are, the more this will be true.

Our western capatilist consumerist culture is always telling us that we need more and that we can never have enough. Sadly, if the majority of us didn't believe this, the whole system would crash and burn.

I can only speak from personal experience, but when I had nothing (and I mean nothing) I was content and happy. It was actually the best time of my life. Now I have everything I want and more and I'm bored to death, restless and dissatisfied. I go out and buy things like games I'd like to play, and never end up playing them because when I go to pick them up I just look at them and think of how much of my time this game will be taking up and if it will actually make me happy, and I somehow have this strange feeling that I should be doing something else, like something more important.

That I think, is the effect our culture has had on me. So, while I appreciate a lot of things and the higher quality of life that certain technologies have afforded us (via convenience and health), I don't think this is even close to the kind of world that most people would choose to live in or have their children live in.

 

(List of games I bought that I haven't played or played properly yet:

  • Entire Baldurs Gate series I & II.
  • Entire Icewindale series I & II.
  • Master of Orion I
  • Master of Orion II (strangely I played 3 quite a bit)
  • Entire Age of Wonders series I & II.
  • Star Wars KotOR II
  • Sins of a Solar Empire
  • [EDIT - Just remembered a couple]
  • Starcraft II
  • Kings Bounty
  • Battle for Middle Earth I & II
  • Sacrifice
  • Zanzarah: The Hidden Portal
  • Elder Scrolls III
  • Oblivion

There's more, but that's all I can remember without going through them physically.)

 

Reply #54 from Elemental Forums Top

oh baldurs gate the best game  i know :D

Reply #55 from Elemental Forums Top

I can only speak from personal experience, but when I had nothing (and I mean nothing) I was content and happy. It was actually the best time of my life. Now I have everything I want and more and I'm bored to death, restless and dissatisfied. I go out and buy things like games I'd like to play, and never end up playing them because when I go to pick them up I just look at them and think of how much of my time this game will be taking up and if it will actually make me happy, and I somehow have this strange feeling that I should be doing something else, like something more important.

That I think, is the effect our culture has had on me. So, while I appreciate a lot of things and the higher quality of life that certain technologies have afforded us (via convenience and health), I don't think this is even close to the kind of world that most people would choose to live in or have their children live in.

We may disagree on some things, but I definitely know exactly what you are describing here.  Before Elemental came out, I was on about a 12 month hiatus from computer games, and the internet in general.  I went back to some simple things, like reading and daily exercise and sports.  I was happy as hell during that time.

It's more than just this, too.  It's the "NOW" factor.  Fallout New Vegas hit the shelves, I had to have it right away.  Played it for an hour and found Batman Arkham Asylum on sale.  Played that for a few days and went back to Civ5, which satisfied me until Blood Bowl Legendary Edition was released.

Reply #56 from Elemental Forums Top

@Jharii ... hehe, yea that's how I feel about *Most* entertainment ... but Civ IV/ FFH just keeps bringing me back.

 

The only thing missing from FFH is an opponent ... and the rare but essential MP-opponent makes the game near-perfect :D

Reply #57 from Elemental Forums Top

Yes, very sad that.  Oh to have an AI that knew what the hell it was doing with all that FFH cheese.

Reply #58 from Elemental Forums Top

Necro thread for the enjoyment of others.