Political posts

It is the age old cliche of "He who knows that he knows not is wise".  IN other words, the ones that are so sure of themselves are too ignorant to know their limitation.  I liken it to when I was in 3rd grade and learned that there was 12 of them.  I could not comprehend how you would spend 12 years in school!  There was just not enough stuff to learn.  I was definitely ignorant of my ignorance.

These people just never grew up.

They just be blogging!

I think I might be one of the person aimed at that jab.

At least, I try my best to gather my information on politically-neutral information services like Stratfor. But the more I read, the more I realise I don't know much.

But I still like reading and commenting, and trying to form an opinion on the matter. And be open to other people's opinion, as long as they seem to be open about mine. I can remember a few occasion where Dr. Guy swayed my way of thinking with good argument.

Some other bloggers here... not so much.

I do not think so (but good to see you back).  You pontificate like we all do, but you also admit when you are wrong - or even listen to other opinions you may not agree with, but give them merit.  I think this is the du.org, moveon.org, and Huggintonpost crowd.  The know it alls that do not know anything really.

Well, can't say that the know it alls are in overwhelming majority on one single side of the political fence, now, can't we?

Sporadically, tbh I don't know when I will tire of political argumentation again.

Of course we can say that - after all, I know it all.

understandable.  This is not your fight,  But it is only going to get worse for the next 3 months.  it will die down after that to just some sporadic sniping.

Even if it's not my fight, you have to realise that it's going to impact my country. It's going to impact our economy, our culture and our politics.

We have a stake in what's happening over there, much more than you ever have in another country. So please understand why so many people seems to be meddling in your affairs. You are an elephant that disturb a lot of countries without even trying.

Do not get me wrong Cikomyr, I WELCOME your input.  I was just cautioning you that the politics are going to get a lot hotter in the next 3 months.

Us conservatives are hoping that the coming elections do impact your country - and ours - in a very POSITIVE economic fashion.  Clearly Obama and the democrats are clueless and their pork belly payoffs did not work.  Asking the question - are you better off now than 2 years ago - the answer is clearly no for all but the paid off democrat constituency (and then not all the democrats got a payoff).

Yhea. Seeing as 2 years ago, I was starting my job in Dubai and the economic crisis hadn't even happened yet. The anniversary is gonna strike us in a few weeks.

Am I better off than 1 year ago? Hell yhea.

Your article raises some interesting points.

Nitro C posts:

Yup.

Let's admit it....discussing politics is interesting.....very interesting. (As far as I'm concerned nooot quite as interesting as discussing religion...but a close second! )

While I'm not in any way, shape or form an expert in politics, I do like to give my 2 cents worth in the political realm.

No one of us can possibly know all that's going on out there in the political world. I learn from reading these various political blogs and the comments back and forth. And even though there are differences, and disagreements, the dialogue, as long as it remains civil, is useful. 

 I agree.

I'll second DG's comment on that, I don't believe Tony had you in mind either.

Oh well. There goes my ego

...and that's all one can really do. It just amazes me how some can try to smear another's opinion, without offering something other than their talking points, and making disparaging remarks that add nothing to boot. So they believe that really wins their argument? Those trolls are just looking for a snack, and I'm finished feeding them. I'm not bothered if someone doesn't agree with me, some feel the need to be the finial, end all, be all word on an issue. You're handling yourself well on another thread, but I doubt in the end, it would matter much since most of those topics are empty and devoid anything other than an attempt to incite to begin with.

I'm sure you still have plenty more ego left.

Sorry Cikomyr, I wasn't really talking about you in particular, but if the shoe fits

One thing I find astonishing is the human reluctance to admit error or an incorrect course of action. The more intelligent the individual; the worse the condition. It seems like certain people are conditioned like Pavlov's dog to rush out and vote for any politician regardless of how corrupt and bankrupt..... demonstrable evidence of failure is actually a success. The internet is full of these types

We'll see how that works out for John Kerry and Charley Rangle, but I fear you're correct. People love the criminal, if it is "their" criminal.

Hey, people voted for an administration with Cheney and Rumsfeld in it. That is quite corrupt in my little book.

Proof that it all comes down to a giant douche and a turd sandwich, eh? Do you think only the dems votes like automatons?

Yeah, but most people weren't thrilled about Bush. He was basically better than Gore or Kerry. Democrats rush out with glee to vote for their criminals, voters in the Bush election cycles sort of sucked it up as a lesser of 2 evils

1- "Criminal"?

2- No. They rushed out with glee to vote AGAINST Bush. They didn't care how much they disliked Kerry, they just wanted Bush out.

Get your fact straighted up, man. When people on your side vote stupidly, it's against their own conscience, but necessary. When people on the other side vote stupidly, it's because they want the downfall of america. Talk of double standard.

I wasn't aware Cheney and Rumsfield didn't pay taxes or attempted to shirk their tax responsibilities, while advocating the public should pay their "fair" share? I'd be interested to see the source you have for this pairs criminal activities, and how they are eluding justice with democrats in complete control,  do share.

I know, I know tax cheating is so rampant in this administration it's hardly news. Maybe that's why they want more money from taxpayers, to subsidies their non-payment.

People discuss political topics using all kinds of different methods, but making disparaging remarks that add nothing to the discussion is really frustrating.  This is a sure sign of losing the argument.

But I think what bothers me most is when people attack the person making the argument instead of the argument itself. 

I didn't say any of this... you did. Now look 'man' Republicans seem to have some corruption problems, but when we get a Duke Cunningham he is usually run out on a rail faster than anyone knew what happened. On the DEmocrat side we have Nancy pelosi who promised to 'Drain the swamp" and run 'the most honest Government ever" standing side by side with 3 of tyhe biggest criminals in Washington....  Rangel, Dodd and Frank.  The funniest part is how Obabm carried on most Bush economic policies, going as far as to retain Cranky Ben printing press Bernake and Turbo Taxation Timothy Geithner.  I can't want to see how the Demowits will spin extending the Bush 'evil tax cut for the rich'. If the let it expire it will cause our economy to slip further into recession. Seems like Gitmo, wiretaps, drone strikes, war in Iraq and Af/Pak are all acceptable as well. Just total hypocrisy and rampant corruption

I disagree with this statement.  If you qualified it as "the more intelligent the individual thinks they are......" then I would agree.

Case in point.  I have been wrong on several occasions, and admitted it.  I hate the taste of crow, but I actually apologized to the queen bee once as well.  BUT - he has never admitted he was wrong even when documented to be so.

I do not think I am god's answer to intelligence, albeit I am not stupid.  The queen bee thinks he is, so he will never admit he is wrong (that plus being a liberal which means they are allergic to human foibles and will never admit when they are wrong).

And what were there crimes?  Sorry, you do not LIKE them, but as we clearly see (since the Obama/Holder JD dropped all suits), they did nothing criminal or wrong.  They just did things you did not like.